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03-12-2017, 04:20 PM
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What is the min GVWR to tow a 2017 Hideout 24BHSWE?
Hi All,
My wife and I are planning on buying our first travel trailer in the next month and after a lot of looking around we like the 2017 Hideout 24BHSWE. We are planning on buying a used truck or SUV to tow the trailer but wanted t get some feedback on what the min GVWR should be?
Thanks for your feedback!
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03-12-2017, 04:37 PM
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Welcome to the forum
Minimum GVWR is going to depend. Your going to need enough to carry all the people, fuel, and gear in the tow vehicle and then leave enough to carry the tongue weight. A good start is to know the GVWR of the trailer, then figure tongue weight is going to be about 20%. That figure will help you start your search for a capable tow vehicle. Estimate the total weight your going to have in the vehicle and then start looking. I would recommend looking at something bigger than "minimum" because WHEN (not if) the we want bigger bug bites you'll be ready. Good luck in your search.
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03-12-2017, 04:45 PM
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^ agree. Too big is not a bad thing.
Added: Welcome to the forum from Radium Hot Springs BC.
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03-12-2017, 04:46 PM
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Consider the tow vehicle's CGWR too. Welcome to the forum from Southern MD.
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03-12-2017, 05:57 PM
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Trailer will weigh about 7800 lbs. Tongue will be in the range of 800 - 975 lbs.
Add hitch weight and you will be over 1000lbs just for the trailer/hitch. That will require a VERY substantial SUV...if there is one that will accept that much hitch weight. It will also limit you on trucks. With 1k just loading the trailer then at least 2 people and gear you will hit the dilemma many face: Payload.
Min. GVW is for each individual component. Your trailer has a GVW. Your truck has a GVW. For the truck, it also has a GCVWR which includes the weight of the truck and the trailer. You also have GAWR for front and rear of each component etc. Many parameters to consider.
In your situation you will be close, if not over, the payload of most 1/2 ton trucks. I'm not aware of any SUVs that surpass trucks for payload but I may be wrong.
I hate to sound like someone that always espouses you have to have the biggest thing out there....I know how that sounds. There are many reasons folks don't want HD trucks; financial, size, ride etc. - I've been there. But, getting into the RV game requires that you ante up. The bigger you go in size/weight the bigger the ante.
Although a 1/2 ton, properly equipped, could probably pull this trailer it would be a crapshoot unless you did a lot of homework. I can't, and won't, in good conscience advise you to get something that is marginal or could put you or your family in jeopardy.
All that said, you should get you a nice 3/4 ton club cab for the trailer. That's not overkill and it should be more than adequate for the job it will have at hand. And, if in the future you decide to upgrade it will have some, or a lot, of room to expand depending on what truck you get. Good luck on your choice.
Edit: Oh yeah!! Welcome to the forum!!
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03-13-2017, 06:22 AM
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Without pencil to paper, over 6,000-7,000# requires a 3/4 ton pickup for anything more than across town. I am also a fan of a long bed (long wheelbase).
When you do put pencil to paper, allow a reserve overload margin.
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03-13-2017, 10:37 AM
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I also concur with most everything said above. Any of the big three, 3/4 ton, gas or diesel, crew cab (not club cab), and only the long bed if you have a need for it in everyday life. Welcome to the forum and keep us up on what you decide!
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03-13-2017, 01:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notanlines
I also concur with most everything said above. Any of the big three, 3/4 ton, gas or diesel, crew cab (not club cab), and only the long bed if you have a need for it in everyday life. Welcome to the forum and keep us up on what you decide!
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Whoops! You're right! Club cab?? What IS a club cab?? It needs to be a crew cab, double cab, mega cab.....whatever you call it but I think a club cab is just an oversized regular cab.....now that I'm thinking ....I think
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03-13-2017, 01:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sourdough
Whoops! You're right! Club cab?? What IS a club cab?? It needs to be a crew cab, double cab, mega cab.....whatever you call it but I think a club cab is just an oversized regular cab.....now that I'm thinking ....I think
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In Canada we call them extended cabs. They have a seat of sorts (more for children) in the back that folds up for more storage. And backward opening doors.
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03-13-2017, 02:54 PM
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My '86 F250 was considered an extended cab. 2 doors and a flip down seat behind the front bench seat. Current is a crew cab- 4 doors.
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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