Results of 1st CAT scale weight

[Thomasbeau]

Hi everyone,

I finally had my fifth wheel loaded and was able to run it through the CAT scale for the first time. I have attached the weight slip and details of my tow vehicle, a 2015 Ford F350, and my 5th wheel which is a 2018 Hideout 299RLDS. I am wondering how this weight information looks to you guys with a bit more experience with this info.

Thanks in advance,

Tom

[jasin1]

Originally Posted by Thomasbeau

Hi everyone,

I finally had my fifth wheel loaded and was able to run it through the CAT scale for the first time. I have attached the weight slip and details of my tow vehicle, a 2015 Ford F350, and my 5th wheel which is a 2018 Hideout 299RLDS. I am wondering how this weight information looks to you guys with a bit more experience with this info.

Thanks in advance,

Tom

I think your probably good.. your not exceeding your vehicle gvwr... you should really take a picture of the yellow payload sticker on the door jam. Separate sticker then you posted.. and you should run just the truck through the cat scale as well to determine pin weight

[notanlines]

Yes, I also believe you are 'in the envelope,' but as Jasin said, please post the door sticker from the F350.

[wiredgeorge]

The sig pic Tom posted makes it look like his Platinum is getting squished by his 5ver tongue. This is the payload sticker.... driver door frame and your numbers will be different, of course.

[jasin1]

Originally Posted by wiredgeorge

The sig pic Tom posted makes it look like his Platinum is getting squished by his 5ver tongue. This is the payload sticker.... driver door frame and your numbers will be different, of course.

I could be wrong but that signature pic doesn’t look like a 2015 platinum... maybe it’s an older pic of previous tv?

[Thomasbeau]

The sig pic is my old 2002 f250. That’s why I bought the 350.

[Javi]

You're good.. don't need a yellow door sticker to know that.

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by jasin1

I think your probably good.. your not exceeding your vehicle gvwr... you should really take a picture of the yellow payload sticker on the door jam. Separate sticker then you posted.. and you should run just the truck through the cat scale as well to determine pin weight

The payload sticker is only good for on the dealers lot comparison, once off the lot the the scales GVWR and axle ratings.
He is 920# under GVWR, and 1,400# under on the rear axle rating, and 1,020# under on the front axle.

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by Javi

You're good.. don't need a yellow door sticker to know that.

X2!
There guys get way too hung up on the "Payload" on that yellow sticker. It is a SHOPPING TOOL not a towing/carrying tool.
This is why most of us urge getting scale weights to be sure your math was correct.
Javi, I give you a bad time about moonlighting as a anvil salesman, our 2016 Ram with a "Yellow" Payload sticker Payload of 5,411# if I go to Ram's web site and look it up it shows "MAX PAYLOAD 5,410.58LBS". Well it scales at 10,000# on a GVWR of 14,000#. We are not small people, and I carry some heavy stuff in the in bed tool box.

[jasin1]

Originally Posted by rhagfo

The payload sticker is only good for on the dealers lot comparison, once off the lot the the scales GVWR and axle ratings.
He is 920# under GVWR, and 1,400# under on the rear axle rating, and 1,020# under on the front axle.

I figured he was good.. my point was everyone should know how much everything weighs .. including pin weight and how much payload you have to spare .. it’s much easier for 99percent of the people on the forum to go by the yellow sticker and cat scale and gvwr then to get caught up in the muddied waters of axle rating theory. That is just my opinion

[travelin texans]

Originally Posted by rhagfo

X2!
There guys get way too hung up on the "Payload" on that yellow sticker. It is a SHOPPING TOOL not a towing/carrying tool.
This is why most of us urge getting scale weights to be sure your math was correct.
Javi, I give you a bad time about moonlighting as a anvil salesman, our 2016 Ram with a "Yellow" Payload sticker Payload of 5,411# if I go to Ram's web site and look it up it shows "MAX PAYLOAD 5,410.58LBS". Well it scales at 10,000# on a GVWR of 14,000#. We are not small people, and I carry some heavy stuff in the in bed tool box.

So I guess the statement on that yellow/white tag stating "occupants & cargo MUST NOT exceed XXXX lbs" means nothing after you've chosen a truck? It's strictly for comparing trucks?

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by travelin texans

So I guess the statement on that yellow/white tag stating "occupants & cargo MUST NOT exceed XXXX lbs" means nothing after you've chosen a truck? It's strictly for comparing trucks?

Covered by the vehicles GVWR! The magic payload number on that sticker is nothing more than GVWR less curb weight, so back to don’t exceed GVWR and GAWR which ever you reach first.

[Javi]

The yellow sticker is a convenient tool for shopping or planning because it give you a number to use in calculating allowable pin or hitch weight. But once you have actual scale weights of the truck and trailer loaded, the yellow sticker becomes moot.

Yes, it is nice to know the pin or hitch weight; but in truth, unless the scale tells a story of over max weight for any of the mandated weight ratings it really is unimportant except for discussions on internet forums.

[wiredgeorge]

Guy with a new camper "loads up" and heads for the scales. After a year of camping I bet "loads up" will be much heavier and pin weight will go up considerably. How many new campers have as much stuff initially as they do down the road. The payload of the truck will be a great indicator of how much more camping gear and junk the truck can handle. The single cat scale run is static and the load in the truck is dynamic and WILL grow if the OP is true to what most campers do... load more and more in the pass through and cabin.

[Javi]

Originally Posted by wiredgeorge

Guy with a new camper "loads up" and heads for the scales. After a year of camping I bet "loads up" will be much heavier and pin weight will go up considerably. How many new campers have as much stuff initially as they do down the road. The payload of the truck will be a great indicator of how much more camping gear and junk the truck can handle. The single cat scale run is static and the load in the truck is dynamic and WILL grow if the OP is true to what most campers do... load more and more in the pass through and cabin.

And from the scale ticket and GVWR of the truck we know that he has 920 pounds of additional pin weight before hitting the first of his mandated limits..

[Thomasbeau]

This is my fifth camper and my second 5th wheel. I have had the contents for years and I have all that I need. The tanks were full and gas tank on the tv was topped off. I'm not a newbie. First opportunity to run through the scales. Just asking for some helpful thoughts from people more familiar with interpreting the weight readings.

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by Javi

The yellow sticker is a convenient tool for shopping or planning because it give you a number to use in calculating allowable pin or hitch weight. But once you have actual scale weights of the truck and trailer loaded, the yellow sticker becomes moot.

Yes, it is nice to know the pin or hitch weight; but in truth, unless the scale tells a story of over max weight for any of the mandated weight ratings it really is unimportant except for discussions on internet forums.

This is in a nut shell!
When shopping for a TV, one should have a good idea of what the hitch/pin weight of their desired trailer/5er, and should be looking for a payload that will cover that and other stuff loaded into the TV.
Too many look at the payload as what they can have as a hitch/pin weight. They need to account for passengers, hitch, and other stuff.

There is one tag I would like to understand better, that is GM's third tag with maximum hitch weight. It shows a number sometimes 700# to 800# less than payload. Well to most of us allowable hitch/pin weight is the difference between scaled weight and GVWR, or rear axle rating which ever is less.

I will say we are currently hosting at a park west of Portland, OR. There is a state scale house that available to those heading towards Portland from two highways from the Oregon coast, on the weekends there is usually one or two RVs pulled into there weighing. The scale house is closed on weekends, but the scale is active, and the display is visible from the drivers seat of the TV. It only displays in 50# increments, but good enough for ODOT. I know many other states have a similar setup.

[flybouy]

I chuckle every time this discussion comes about. The "we don't take much", "we travel light", we're not pack rats", etc. All the false narratives I read from typically the same mindset ..... attempting to justify the purchase of a trailer that on paper will "squeek by the numbers" but in reality will overload the tv. I often wonder if those folks still wear the same size pants that they wore in high school? And no, still wearing the same size belt UNDER your belly like a sweat band under a baseball cap doesn't count!

[Blackrock]

My new wife weighs half what my last wife did. That helps with my load a lot.

[Bill-2020]

Back when we got into this camping/RV thing years ago, I spent too much money on too many things for the camper and the campsite. Chairs, tables, mats, extra hoses, adapters for this that and the other things, tools I thought I’d need, more chairs, extra this and extra of that, and that load of stuff only grew. A point in time came when I knew it was time to unload the accumulation of items I didn’t need anymore or never used. About 1/3 of what is in the pass through is now gone and to never return. We learned how to pack for meals better and not pack a months worth of dry and wet goods for a week away. But, I will say that when it comes time to leave here due to a threatening hurricane, we pack more than usual because supplies here will be limited after the storm passes and we return. The Tundra was probably overloaded during those times, it was essential the we had what we needed. The F-250? Probably close to the numbers, maybe I’ll weigh if we find ourselves in that situation again this season... which is just around the corner. My kingdom for a place out of the path of these dang storms!