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Old 05-06-2021, 10:54 AM   #41
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In any "Pi**ing match" everybody is going to get wet....

As for "thenumber one RV dealership" I'd have to say, based on whose advertising office ??? I've seen at least 10 dealerships with that same claim. In fact, Keystone claims to be the number one RV manufacturer. So does Forest River, Jayco and Winnebago.... As for Number one automobile manufacturer, Ford, GMC, Chevrolet and Fiat/Chrysler all lay claim to that "cherished number one spot"...

So much for "The Number One Dealer said"....

As for routine maintenance, I stated (and I think it's valid for everyone) that when you buy a new trailer, it's a smart idea to inspect everything before the warranty expires. Until you look, you don't even know if there's bearings in all 4 wheels... Take a look at post #37 in this thread if you need "more proof about possible factory issues"....

Now, if we're going to quibble over whether bearings "should or will" go for 27 years. I'd say that like most carpenters, their house is the last to get a kitchen update and most mechanics who do it all day long don't want to go home and do it again..... So, putting off routine maintenance may be a "professional hazard"...

As for 27 years without repacking bearings ????? If someone "inspects them regularly" I'd have to ask first, how do you inspect them with grease all over them? and second, if you remove the grease, who would repack them with the same "old grease"? So, without answers to those questions, why inspect them without repacking them?

Back to the "quibbling". Whether someone chooses a "time based or a mileage based" maintenance schedule is entirely up to the individual. We're "quibbling" over whether it ought to be "sooner or later" based on individual opinions.... If I tow my trailer on dusty, rutty dirt/gravel roads, it's very likely going to need inspections and maintenance much more at 3000 miles than a similar trailer that's towed on a "smooth concrete highway" for that same 3000 miles.....

Why quibble. I think we can all agree that going 27 years between repacking bearing is a bit much and doing it every year might be "too often by some standards".... Where in the middle each person feels comfortable is not something to "quibble about on a forum"... Nobody wins and nobody convinces the other.... The purpose of the forum is to "convey information" not "force others to think the same as we do"....
Hahaha...I said the number one Cruise America outlet. Do you know what Cruise America is? It's an RV rental company. This was the outlet in Spokane, Washington. And this was a few years ago and he doesn't work there anymore. Here's the link so you can call them and prove I'm right.

https://www.cruiseamerica.com/

Factory mistakes happen with all vehicles, including with some of the most dependable cars on the road like Toyota. And you'll know if there isn't a bearing on the wheel. lol

And I totally agree with your premise of how and where the TT is used, which is what any mechanic would ask someone. Same with the machines I worked on in the military. I was stationed in Twentynine Palms and the dust, heat, and roads all abused our equipment, which is why they required more frequent maintenance intervals.

Gee whiz, I'm not quibbling. You're the one who is quibbling, telling people to repack their bearings every year. Most people hardly ever use their TT and telling them to repack their bearings annually is foolish.

And my old utility trailer hardly ever gets used (40 miles a year) which is why the bearings have not needed repacking. And you can test the bearing by jacking up the trailer, spinning the wheel, inspecting the hub with the dust cap off, and then moving the wheel back and forth when it's not moving. I do the same thing with my RV.

Use the old grease? lol

And look at the thread. People are repacking their wheel bearings every year, regardless. Sorry, but I don't follow that creed, even if it's written in the manual. This is what it says; "Repack wheel bearings every 12,000 miles or every year, whichever comes first".
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Old 05-06-2021, 11:17 AM   #42
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Marineman the op asked for advice. Others gave theirs's and you gave yours, why do you have to go to such lengths to tell everyone else that they are wrong and only you as an "expert mechanic" know the "truth" and it's verified by some RV dealer? I don't need to participate in the childish banter. N'uff said.
If I'm wrong then please share the good news. I have no problem with doing things the right way.

This is a forum where people learn things, and like it or not, I'm going to share my opinion.

And I'll guarantee, people are reading this thread and many have been convinced to do things differently. And any bonafide mechanic would agree with my analogy regarding repacking wheel bearings every year, regardless of mileage.

And no offense, but I am an expert mechanic. I don't know everything there is to know about wrenching, but I have plenty of experience to back up my claim.
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Hahaha...I said the number one Cruise America outlet. Do you know what Cruise America is? It's an RV rental company. This was the outlet in Spokane, Washington. And this was a few years ago and he doesn't work there anymore. Here's the link so you can call them and prove I'm right.

https://www.cruiseamerica.com/

Factory mistakes happen with all vehicles, including with some of the most dependable cars on the road like Toyota. And you'll know if there isn't a bearing on the wheel. lol

And I totally agree with your premise of how and where the TT is used, which is what any mechanic would ask someone. Same with the machines I worked on in the military. I was stationed in Twentynine Palms and the dust, heat, and roads all abused our equipment, which is why they required more frequent maintenance intervals.

Gee whiz, I'm not quibbling. You're the one who is quibbling, telling people to repack their bearings every year. Most people hardly ever use their TT and telling them to repack their bearings annually is foolish.

And my old utility trailer hardly ever gets used (40 miles a year) which is why the bearings have not needed repacking. And you can test the bearing by jacking up the trailer, spinning the wheel, inspecting the hub with the dust cap off, and then moving the wheel back and forth when it's not moving. I do the same thing with my RV.

Use the old grease? lol

And look at the thread. People are repacking their wheel bearings every year, regardless. Sorry, but I don't follow that creed, even if it's written in the manual. This is what it says; "Repack wheel bearings every 12,000 miles or every year, whichever comes first".

First, You're putting words in my mouth. I'd ask you to find anywhere in this forum (go back 10 years if you wish) and find ANY post where I recommend repacking bearings every year or every 12,000 miles.

Second, I've stated that I check mine "every other year" (time based) which, the way I tow my trailer is "around every 10-15K miles.... But I use the TIME BASED not mileage based time frame.

We've done this twice now, once with antifreeze vs compressed air and now this.... It's one thing to have a differing opinion, something else to "tell everyone that your way is the only way".... We did this same thing with the antifreeze vs compressed air. If I recall correctly, there was NEVER a statement from Cruise America concerning whether they would write a check for any damage from "doing it their way".....

I always recommend that anyone "err on the side of caution" not "on the side of hold my beer and watch this"....
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Old 05-06-2021, 11:30 AM   #44
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First, You're putting words in my mouth. I'd ask you to find anywhere in this forum (go back 10 years if you wish) and find ANY post where I recommend repacking bearings every year or every 12,000 miles.

Second, I've stated that I check mine "every other year" (time based) which, the way I tow my trailer is "around every 10-15K miles.... But I use the TIME BASED not mileage based time frame.

We've done this twice now, once with antifreeze vs compressed air and now this.... It's one thing to have a differing opinion, something else to "tell everyone that your way is the only way".... We did this same thing with the antifreeze vs compressed air. If I recall correctly, there was NEVER a statement from Cruise America concerning whether they would write a check for any damage from "doing it their way".....

I always recommend that anyone "err on the side of caution" not "on the side of hold my beer and watch this"....
And the anti-freeze vs compressed air was exactly what your post needed.

Erring on the side of caution can become the slippery slope of fear. And fear causes people to worry and do things that are not necessary.
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Old 05-06-2021, 10:25 PM   #46
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We have been going to S. California from BC, Canada for the last 5 years it is about 3100 miles round trip. Every fall before leaving I repack the wheel bearings and inspect the brakes. In April I have replaced the brakes and repacked the bearings. It is peace of mind to do check them and pack them every year. Touch wood haven't had any problems. Hopes this help you out.
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Old 05-07-2021, 04:17 AM   #47
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We put our Outback 341RD in the shop every March before the camping season starts. Just want some assurance as I hate those breakdowns on the road.
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Old 05-11-2021, 03:09 AM   #48
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Got it done

OP here. Thanks everyone for all the comments and in some cases spirited discussion. Thatís what makes this industry so fun, people are very passionate about it.

I did take the camper in and how the brakes inspected and bearings repacked. The mechanic said overall they looked great, grease was still clean, and brakes were in good shape. He repacked the bearings for me and did slightly adjust the brakes(no idea what that means), so Iím all set for the upcoming June trip westward bound.

The wife and I spent the weekend emptying everything out of it and only putting back what we will need. Amazing what you can accumulate in such a small space, especially in the pantry. We had pulled it up to Charleston, South Carolina in Jan 2020 for the Oyster Festival and found 2 bottles of Tobasco still hanging out. Probably wonít need that much going forward.
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Old 05-11-2021, 08:11 AM   #49
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OP here. Thanks everyone for all the comments and in some cases spirited discussion. Thatís what makes this industry so fun, people are very passionate about it.

I did take the camper in and how the brakes inspected and bearings repacked. The mechanic said overall they looked great, grease was still clean, and brakes were in good shape. He repacked the bearings for me and did slightly adjust the brakes(no idea what that means), so Iím all set for the upcoming June trip westward bound.

The wife and I spent the weekend emptying everything out of it and only putting back what we will need. Amazing what you can accumulate in such a small space, especially in the pantry. We had pulled it up to Charleston, South Carolina in Jan 2020 for the Oyster Festival and found 2 bottles of Tobasco still hanging out. Probably wonít need that much going forward.
Awesome, glad things worked out. Enjoy that trip from Florida to Utah. Sounds like a great time in the works. And I can't believe the stuff we find in our camper. What's funny is, when my wife runs out of something she immediately embarks to the camper which is conveniently located in our backyard. Most of the time our stockpile in there saves the day...lol

And because of this thread I did inspect my wheel bearings.
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