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02-21-2021, 07:23 PM
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2020 Fuzion 429
The camper came with a tall ladder to access the loft. The salesman at Camping World (where I bought the unit) says the ladder is used for the loft and the garage bunk. Yet, we had 2 ladders in the 2013 Raptor 322TS we traded? Fact or fiction? Should I have gotten a ladder for my garage bunks?
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02-21-2021, 07:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davidkelm
The camper came with a tall ladder to access the loft. The salesman at Camping World (where I bought the unit) says the ladder is used for the loft and the garage bunk. Yet, we had 2 ladders in the 2013 Raptor 322TS we traded? Fact or fiction? Should I have gotten a ladder for my garage bunks?
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I would think if someone is sleeping in both that for safety sake there should be a ladder for each upper bed.
Were the salesmans lips moving?
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02-22-2021, 03:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davidkelm
The camper came with a tall ladder to access the loft. The salesman at Camping World (where I bought the unit) says the ladder is used for the loft and the garage bunk. Yet, we had 2 ladders in the 2013 Raptor 322TS we traded? Fact or fiction? Should I have gotten a ladder for my garage bunks?
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I wonder if that was one of the parts/accessories keystone had trouble getting with COVID shutdowns at the factory. Maybe they are putting one in each unit till supply chain catches up.
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02-22-2021, 12:02 PM
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You should have 2 ladders!
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02-22-2021, 02:45 PM
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Data point - I recently purchased a ‘21 Raptor 429 and it only came with the one tall ladder.
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02-22-2021, 03:14 PM
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Our 2020 Carbon 348 on came with one ladder. Which for our needs, I doubt the loft will ever get used. Your needs may vary.
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02-22-2021, 04:24 PM
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Only got 1 ladder with ours as well
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02-22-2021, 05:20 PM
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Rather argue with Keystone or your dealer I'd spend maybe $20 on some lumber & build what I wanted/needed rather than some cheap piece of crap from the factory.
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02-22-2021, 06:00 PM
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Or buy one on Amazon, have it delivered in 2 days for $64.
https://www.amazon.com/Quick-Product...oghydr-20&th=1
Figuring your time at $10/hour, you'll spend more than the $64 on phone calls, travel time, waiting for the dealer and that doesn't include the roll of Tums or Rolaids.
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02-22-2021, 06:11 PM
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LOL...his lips were moving, but perhaps lying nonetheless.
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02-22-2021, 06:12 PM
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I would hope so! I have asked...waiting on a response.
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02-22-2021, 06:15 PM
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Agree. I used the tall ladder to fold out a bedspread on the top bunk and the ladder slipped and I reflexed. The wife laughed then started saying we had 2 ladders in our 2013 Raptor, why not in the 2020 Fuzion. Both Keystone products.
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02-22-2021, 06:21 PM
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Thanks. Great link. I think I will do this.
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02-25-2021, 10:20 AM
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I'm pretty sure we only got one ladder with our 429. It stows in the "drop-down" door at the fore end of the garage. That loft is too narrow to get any useful sleeping functionality, but it'll probably make a good storage area if I can fashion a bar or lip to keep stuff from falling out.
The wife is certain there's a second ladder up in that loft area, so I suppose we'll see when I get back out there now that the ice has melted off it.
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03-03-2021, 08:52 PM
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Our 2019 Fuzion 429 came with one (tall) ladder. Stores in the storage cabinet under tv in garage. Two ladders wont fit in there.
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03-04-2021, 08:33 AM
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I also had a raptor 2013 and it had two ladders, now I have a 2020 raptor 351 and it has one ladder. It is to long for the bed in the garage but not for the overhead bunk.
Whats up with Keystone.
I guess they are saving money.....
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03-04-2021, 12:44 PM
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I have a 2017 Fuzion 371 and it only came with one ladder that has the 2 sets of contact points for the bunk bed in garage and loft. The ladder is in the storage below the garage tv. I can see where two would be needed if both the bunk and loft are being used.
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03-04-2021, 12:57 PM
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Or call Keystone and find out what they say on the number of ladders.
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03-04-2021, 03:32 PM
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We have the 2021 429 and only got 1 tall ladder. We got it from Holiday world in Dallas in January.
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03-04-2021, 05:58 PM
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I don't think so I bought my raptor 351 in Nov, 2019 and it cam with only one ladder.
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