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Old 10-13-2014, 12:28 PM   #1
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2012 f-250 4x4 timbren air lift or blocks?

I've got f250 four door 4x4 diesel truck and towing a raptor 3712 toy hauler.
What is best way to keep truck from squatting so bad?
I'm looking at timbren air lift 57396 and also some bottom out blocks.
part # fr250fds or frtt350f works on both f250 or 350
I guess this required or something else to keep from bottoming out or bouncing.
What's your recommendations?

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Old 10-13-2014, 12:34 PM   #2
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Most all of us guys that use anything on the back end use Firestone or Airlift bags. I use airlift and I have on board air. That allows me to adjust as I drive, and deflate when I'm not towing.
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Old 10-13-2014, 12:39 PM   #3
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That's awesome chuck!! Yeah airlift is what I meant sorry. Are they hard to install??

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Old 10-13-2014, 12:39 PM   #4
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If you don't mind me asking how much is on board setup to air up bags?

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Old 10-13-2014, 12:44 PM   #5
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I bought mine back in '08 so I don't remember but I think about $650.00 took me about 4 hours as it was the second time.
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Old 10-13-2014, 01:15 PM   #6
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How much air pressure you run in them?

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Old 10-13-2014, 01:16 PM   #7
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You ever seen anyone use the blocks or heard how they do?

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Old 10-13-2014, 04:25 PM   #8
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I have the timbrems on my 1500 and they work great with 0 maintenance,
They stay about 1.5 inches before touching frame so the empty ride is just like stock , you will get about 2 inch of sag when you apply full load , the one's that I have are rated for 8600 lbs even thow I will never have a 1/4 of that weight on the back of my truck ,
I have herd in cold weather the air bags and lines can freeze up from condensation in the air ,
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Old 10-13-2014, 05:01 PM   #9
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air bags

I also have a 2012 F-250 towing a fifth wheel I installed firestone air last year it made a big difference in the ride loaded with about 60 psi or unloaded at 10 psi and it leveled out the truck as well. It took me about 5 hours to install and thats only because I am old Good luck tx)
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Old 10-13-2014, 07:16 PM   #10
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I have a 4wd 2011 F250. I originally had Timbrens. They eliminated the squat, but the rear end felt soft. I then installed Supersprings and it eliminated all sway.
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Old 10-13-2014, 10:32 PM   #11
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Thanks for everyone's advice!
I assume by the timbrens your meaning the blocks??
Part#frtt350f or
Fr250fds

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Old 10-13-2014, 10:33 PM   #12
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What size campers you guys have??

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Old 10-14-2014, 08:39 AM   #13
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I ordered an airlift bags gonna try that first. Is there any kind of sway bar you can add to truck or any tricks to help that if it sways?

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Old 10-15-2014, 07:59 PM   #14
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Don't over inflate the air bags. If the rear end is too high it will cause issues make sure the truck squats a little to keep everything towing nice. It will take some trial and error to get the right air pressure on them. The on board system really helps in adjusting


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Old 10-15-2014, 11:20 PM   #15
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That's great to know! Been seeing everyone say around 60psi I'll give it a few trys for sure

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Old 10-17-2014, 09:19 AM   #16
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We use Timbrens and have been happy with them. See my post below.
http://www.keystonerv.org/forums/sho...5&postcount=10
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Old 10-17-2014, 12:20 PM   #17
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We had 2 Timbrens disappear on us. Last spring I had a guy show me the air bags he had just installed on his F-250. I took him over to my truck to show him my Timbrens, looked in and discovered that for the second time, I had lost one of them.

I went with Roadmaster Active Suspension - www.activesuspension.com - and Sumo Springs by SuperSpring, which replace the factory bump stops similar to a Timbren. The Sumo Springs are solid, not hollow like a Timbren. I am very happy with this combination and I don't have to worry about inflating/deflating air bags or worse yet - failed air bags. I also installed Bilstein 5100 series shocks all around.

This set up has proven to be a major improvement in ride & handling for us vs. the Timbrens.

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Old 10-18-2014, 03:42 AM   #18
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Good info!!

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Old 10-18-2014, 04:50 AM   #19
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I considered bagging my truck, but the result was that I didn't need to do it. That was good, because the airbags won't fit with a gooseneck hitch (B&W) bolted to the frame.

I have the factory tow package that includes the rear anti-sway bar. KYB, Bilstein or Rancho shocks help, too. My 326 grosses at 12,650, if I recall correctly, and anything in the garage reduces the pin weight somewhat. We tend to not load every bit of storage space we can find...a new direction we are trying to pursue.
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Old 10-18-2014, 04:19 PM   #20
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I hope the bags fit my truck with b&w hitch cause I've already bought air lift bags. Supposed to be installed Wednesday if possible

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