Gas or Diesel ......

[Jeff and Rita]

We bought our 2013 Chevrolet 2500 HD with the Duramax 6.6 Engine. I have owned Fords, Toyota, Nissan and Chevrolet's. I am so pleased with the truck and its performance. It rides and pulls our Trailer with ease. And it also is a head turner......

[scuba0331]

I bought a 2014 Ram 3500 CTD. Pulls my Outback 26RLS with ease! Very Happy I traded the Hemi for it!

[Hansel]

Congrat's

But let's see some picture's

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by scuba0331

I bought a 2014 Ram 3500 CTD. Pulls my Outback 26RLS with ease! Very Happy I traded the Hemi for it!

I should hope so! Less than 8,000 GVWR, you likely need to check mirrors offten to make sure it is still back there.

Mine is 13 years olde and tows an 11,000# 5er with comfort.

[Jeff and Rita]

Our Family had a blast on our first camping trip..... Look forward to many more....

[GaryWT]

Looks good, I went with gas when I upgraded mostly due to price and also I did not need any more power. Good luck with it.

[billb800si]

Had 2 Dodge Ram 2500 Megacabs with Cummins diesels. Sure they pulled with no problems but the maintenance- fuel prices and availability were getting to me. Always had to check out the gas stations to determine where the diesel pump was (and hauling a 33 footer behind me). Couldn't tell you how many times I had to cruise a gas station looking for the "green handle" pump!!
Next tow vehicle will have a big V8.

[berg]

Originally Posted by billb800si

Next tow vehicle will have a big V8.

Interesting - seems like 90% of the time its the other way around. "oh I wish I had a diesel"

I debated quite a bit but was probably $8-10k higher than what I paid for my gasser for a comparable diesel setup. And maintenance has been non-existent for the most part.

Not sure what the future will hold - the newer diesels are sure nice and quiet though.

[billb800si]

Originally Posted by berg

- the newer diesels are sure nice and quiet though.

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Yes they are but they have a ton of sensors on them and when one goes bad or gets fouled then it's back to the dealer....
Everything costs more to repair on diesels.

[hankpage]

Originally Posted by billb800si

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Yes they are but they have a ton of sensors on them and when one goes bad or gets fouled then it's back to the dealer....
Everything costs more to repair on diesels.

Forget the dealer once you are out of warranty. Find yourself a good diesel shop with mechanics certified for your engine. Lower hourly rate and done right faster. In the over twenty years that I have owned 5.9s the only engine work done was a valve adjustment on my 12 valve. Dealer wanted $300 flat rate plus new gaskets ($69). Truck center (Mack & Cummins certified) apologized for a $72 bill because he had to charge for 15 minutes setup-clean up, also said the gaskets can be used several times. Guess where I am going if I ever need engine work??? I just don't understand why folks say diesel maintenance is higher and I have never had a problem finding accessible fuel. JM2¢, Hank
By the way ... have you looked under the hood of a gasser lately. Somewhere under all those wires and sensors is an engine!!!

[Jca3]

The other plus for diesel is the Allison transmission that helps hold us back when going down the long, high mountains where we travel.
We also found a great mechanic who keeps our 05 diesel running smoothly without huge cost.

[bsmith0404]

I love the exhaust brake, 100,000 mile warranties, means several years before I'll ever spend a dime on repairs. If I keep it long enough, I'm sure I'll have to pay for some before it wears out an ohhh, I don't know 1,000,000 miles, no wait, the rest of the truck probably won't last that long
Don't forget to look for the yellow pump handles at some stations, or is it green, no at BP that is unleaded, I'm so confused I've only had trouble finding diesel one time and that was while on vacation in San Francisco, but I guess I should have expected that in the land of small cars and SUVs

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by billb800si

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Yes they are but they have a ton of sensors on them and when one goes bad or gets fouled then it's back to the dealer....
Everything costs more to repair on diesels.

Is one to assume that a Gas engine doesn't have sensors or need normal maintenance??
Chose the right diesel and the maintenance is about the same as a gasser.

[davidjsimons]

Well, it's all in what works best for you. I have to agree with Hank, after warranty coverage expires, I carry my truck to the Cummins dealer if I can't fix it in my own shop, they're not that difficult to figure out all of the time. As far as longevity, my old Cummins is nocking on 700,000 miles. But, again, a diesel fits in well with my work and lifestyle. If you are going to use the truck as your daily commuter to the office, ten miles from home, and haul dog food and groceries, then a gas powered truck may suit you better. The diesels need to be worked and run, especially the newer models with the particulate filtration systems on the exhaust, short trips and excessive idling are problematic.

[berg]

Originally Posted by davidjsimons

If you are going to use the truck as your daily commuter to the office, ten miles from home, and haul dog food and groceries, then a gas powered truck may suit you better.

Story of my life man...

[billb800si]

Originally Posted by davidjsimons

The diesels need to be worked and run, especially the newer models with the particulate filtration systems on the exhaust, short trips and excessive idling are problematic.

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I couldn't tell you how many times I took my Ram Diesel Cummins in to the dealership because of Sensor problems. The Particulate Filter may be great for the environment but it's a pain in the A$$ for the owner. You never know when it's going into it's "clean out" cycle and smoke comes pouring out of the exhaust.

For a large gasser the Ford Triton V10 is a brute and the big Dodge Hemi is nice.
No more diesels in my future.

[kiwi2000]

The Particulate Filter may be great for the environment but it's a pain in the A$$ for the owner. You never know when it's going into it's "clean out" cycle and smoke comes pouring out of the exhaust.

That is a pain, but if and when this sensor ever causes issues out it goes along with all of the other enviro friendly items on the exhaust path.

I am going to install extra large exhaust pipes and soon am going to install a K&N air filter. I have priced the install including part sand labor with air filter and a power chip at less than the price of just the exhaust system replacement parts from Ford.

Problem solved, no more cleaning of the particulate filter if it is not there.

2010 Powerstroke F-250 XLT super cab
2010 Montana Mountaineer 285RLD

[hankpage]

Originally Posted by kiwi2000

That is a pain, but if and when this sensor ever causes issues out it goes along with all of the other enviro friendly items on the exhaust path.

I am going to install extra large exhaust pipes and soon am going to install a K&N air filter. I have priced the install including part sand labor with air filter and a power chip at less than the price of just the exhaust system replacement parts from Ford.

Problem solved, no more cleaning of the particulate filter if it is not there.

2010 Powerstroke F-250 XLT super cab
2010 Montana Mountaineer 285RLD

I don't know about the new ones. But on my Cummins, K & N didn't meet the filtration requirements for the engine. Be sure to check if they have improved. I have always used them for my gassers but there is a big difference between a 14 to 1 ratio gas and a 80+ to 1 diesel. JMHO, Hank

[TandE]

The biggest problem with k and n is that it is an oiled filter. On supercharged and turbocharged vehicles they tend to suck out all the oil in the filter which is there to trap dirt and can let through bigger particles of dirt that can damage the turbo. Best bet is to use a dry filter element with a filter mesh bag over it.

Travis

[MarkS]

What? You guys are talking about two different filters. The particulate filter is in the exhaust. It is supposed to catch diesel exhaust soot.

K&N makes air filters for the air intake.