Greetings to all

[not home]

New to site, not to RV lifestyle! Wife and I have been RV camping over 20 years. Currently with a TV 2014 GMC Sierra 1500 Z71 4X4 CC std bed hitched to a 1999 Sunnybrook 26CKS with WDH. Strongly considering an upgrade to a 5th Wheel. Love the Keystone Montana 3120RL Legacy Edition (2019 - 2021 model year). Joining here to pick everyone's brain in this process including TV upgrade considerations as well.
Cheers

[wiredgeorge]

Originally Posted by not home

New to site, not to RV lifestyle! Wife and I have been RV camping over 20 years. Currently with a TV 2014 GMC Sierra 1500 Z71 4X4 CC std bed hitched to a 1999 Sunnybrook 26CKS with WDH. Strongly considering an upgrade to a 5th Wheel. Love the Keystone Montana 3120RL Legacy Edition (2019 - 2021 model year). Joining here to pick everyone's brain in this process including TV upgrade considerations as well.
Cheers

Welcome! I personally owned a Sunnybrook bumper pull and it was a great trailer with almost no issues. Shame when they were bought out. I had a 2012. Welcome to the site! You will need to upgrade your tow vehicle if you pick up a Montana 3120RL. At 16K lbs fully loaded, you are looking at north of 3600 lbs pin weight (based on camper's gross weight) and add to that hitch, passengers, stuff in the pickup. Likely need a dually to haul that guy around safely without exceeding the trucks payload. Anyway, welcome!

[travelin texans]

DO NOT believe the sales gimmick "1/2 ton towable" to start with!!
With most any 5th wheel your looking at minimum of a 3/4 ton truck with as much payload as you can find. A single rear wheel (SRW) 1 ton would be your best option, if the 5er is 13-14k+ GVWR you're in dually (DRW) territory.
A couple of numbers in the rv world that mean absolutely nothing are the dry/shipping weight of any rv & the max tow rating of any truck.

[dutchmensport]

Originally Posted by not home

...Strongly considering an upgrade to a 5th Wheel. Love the Keystone Montana 3120RL Legacy Edition (2019 - 2021 model year). ....

First, welcome to the forums and glad you are enjoying your Sunnybrook and been at RVing / camping for so many years. You have a lot of experience to offer on these forums. Again! Welcome!

Second, because you are considering picking up a Keystone Montana 3120RL, why not jump over and start reading up on the Montana on the Montana Owner's Club forum, also sponsored by RV Life. Everything there is specific to Montana's, lots of good information there about your specific model in question. If you feel compelled, go ahead and create a user ID and password, and you can use the same User ID and password you created for this form site. The two sites don't talk to each other, but they do somehow share information about your user id.

Meanwhile, enjoy this forum site. Lots and lots of good information here. Lots and lots of good people ready, willing, and able to answer questions, assist as best they can, and who also just love sharing their life experiences too.

Again, Welcome!

[not home]

[QUOTE=dutchmensport;498496]Second, because you are considering picking up a Keystone Montana 3120RL, why not jump over and start reading up on the Montana on the Montana Owner's Club forum, also sponsored by RV Life.

Thanks for the heads up. Did not realize the other site was there. Just completed registering under same name. Definitely a lot more information pertaining to my next upgrade at that site. Thanks again!

[sourdough]

I belong to both sites as well. Here you will find more concentration on acceptable weight limits, tv/rv matches etc. The rest of a Montana is like any other RV.

Welcome to the forum. The Montana 3120 will not work on a 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton or 1 ton SRW. Looked at them closely prior to purchasing the current truck. It needs a DRW to be safe and I don't want one.

[not home]

Originally Posted by sourdough

It needs a DRW to be safe and I don't want one.

Curious... why is it you 'don't want one?'

I have never had a DRW. Biggest I have had in the past was a Chevy 2500 HD. I had to sell that truck because the wife has a old upper and lower neck injury and a shoulder injury that was irritated by the rugged stiff suspension. Hoping to find a truck that will handle the rig size/weight but also provide a smooth ride even when unloaded.

[sourdough]

Originally Posted by not home

Curious... why is it you 'don't want one?'

I have never had a DRW. Biggest I have had in the past was a Chevy 2500 HD. I had to sell that truck because the wife has a old upper and lower neck injury and a shoulder injury that was irritated by the rugged stiff suspension. Hoping to find a truck that will handle the rig size/weight but also provide a smooth ride even when unloaded.

In the RV towing world I'm probably a bit of an anomaly. I don't want a DRW OR a diesel. A DRW will not fit in my garage and I won't leave a vehicle out in this hot, dry, windy, dusty environment (103 degrees, 30+ mph. winds yesterday). Since DW said I can't sell this house and move to someplace nice and I'll die here....guess I'm gonna have to try to make things work.

Also, IMO there's no sense having a DRW unless you have a diesel. The extra payload the DRW gives you is useless with a gas engine because it just can't pull it - and I don't want a diesel either because you give up too much payload due to engine weight in a SRW. In the next year or so if they keep massaging the gvwrs and payloads I might get a diesel SRW...if one can be found anywhere.

[not home]

Originally Posted by sourdough

In the RV towing world I'm probably a bit of an anomaly. I don't want a DRW OR a diesel. A DRW will not fit in my garage and I won't leave a vehicle out in this hot, dry, windy, dusty environment (103 degrees, 30+ mph. winds yesterday). Since DW said I can't sell this house and move to someplace nice and I'll die here....guess I'm gonna have to try to make things work.

Also, IMO there's no sense having a DRW unless you have a diesel. The extra payload the DRW gives you is useless with a gas engine because it just can't pull it - and I don't want a diesel either because you give up too much payload due to engine weight in a SRW. In the next year or so if they keep massaging the gvwrs and payloads I might get a diesel SRW...if one can be found anywhere.

Thanks for the insight. I am the same way in that I don't leave my vehicles out in the elements when home. They just last longer when kept up. Though I have the opposite weather here in Montana I have lived a while back in the Palm Springs area and can certainly understand weather at 120+ degrees and winds of 30 to 40 mph and blowing sand. Hated it but endured for the job. Now that I'm retired I went to where I want to be.
Thanks again and have a blessed day.

[jxnbbl]

Welcome from NH!

[spicercars]

Welcome from northern MN.