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01-28-2021, 07:11 AM
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Some have a locking ring and some are twist the plug once installed on the trailer. After years of using an extension cord to connect my 5er I put in a 50 amp connection both where I park to store it and up by the house for when either emptying or loading it.
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01-28-2021, 08:25 AM
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If you are going to change your 30 amp over to a 50 amp the plug that comes with the camper will work. If it not long enough you can buy an extension 50 amp they come in different length. It’s good to have one anyway just in case you camp someplace where the electric box is further then your power cord that came with the camper. They run about 130.00
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01-28-2021, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Marke
I have a thirty amp at home I used on my previous camper. I can have a 50 amp breaker and plug installed to use with the new camper. Thanks
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no, you can not! 50 amp is 240 volts 4 wire. 30 amps is 120 volts 3 wire. 50 amps is #6 ga wire. 30 amps is #10 ga wire.
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01-28-2021, 09:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobz89013
Some have a locking ring and some are twist the plug once installed on the trailer. After years of using an extension cord to connect my 5er I put in a 50 amp connection both where I park to store it and up by the house for when either emptying or loading it.
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all are twist look plugs. 1/4 turn to the right and a locking ring. Some rigs have the cord perminatly attached to the RV.
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01-28-2021, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JRTJH
A "3 wire 30 amp RV outlet" can not be converted to a "4 wire 50 amp RV outlet" without changing out the ROMEX from 2 wire with ground to 3 wire with ground. The 30 amp is a 120VAC power outlet and the 50 amp is a 240VAC power outlet. If you start "converting the plug" make absolutely sure of what you're doing. It's very easy to wind up applying 240 volts to your trailer, destroying much of the electronics in it within seconds.
ADDED: You can buy a 50 amp extension cord almost anywhere RV supplies are sold or on Amazon. You can also use an 1' "dog bone" adapter at the trailer outlet and then use a 12 gauge house extension cord to run the 50' to your outlet.
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240 volts is in fact delivered to your 50 am RV main panel breaker box.
50-amp Service (1).pdf
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01-28-2021, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Marke
I have a Cougar 364BHL on order. I’m trying to get everything I need before it arrives. One thing I need is a 50 amp cord to plug the camper in while it is sitting in my driveway. I don’t know why I didn’t look at the one that was at the dealers but it was sold and picked up so I can’t go look now. My question is this: does the end that plugs into the camper have a locking ring (marine type) or does it just plug in without the locking ring?
Thanks in advance and afterwards also.
Mark
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If it has a plug on the RV end it is a twist look plug with a locking ring.
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01-28-2021, 09:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marke
I will have a certified electrician to do the conversion work. I just need to know what the plug on the end that plugs into the camper is like. Is it a locking ring type or does it just plug in.
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It is a twist-lock with a locking ring. The shore power end just plugs in.
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01-28-2021, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by cavie
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As a "retired master electrician" you should realize that a miswired 30 amp adapter can "easily apply 240 volts to a 30 amp trailer".... you can "just as easily apply 240 volts to the neutral/ground pins in a 50 amp plug. My "point" was that if he's not familiar with "converting my 30 amp plug to a 50 amp plug by changing the plug" he really ought not try to do it, something very dramatic could well happen as his "house wiring or his trailer wiring starts to smoke"....
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01-28-2021, 10:40 AM
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If there is already a 30A outlet, I would buy the 50-30 adapter/dogbone and use it. For $25 or so you can use most everything you would need at the house. We did this at the old house and worked well for a year or so until we moved last October. If you really want/need the full capacity then it will be a lot more expensive.
Just spent around $500 for 125 feet 6/3 UF and all the goodies to go with it and that was just material.
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01-28-2021, 02:41 PM
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Location: Port Charlotte
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marke
Like this on the RV end
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that is homemade from a dryer cord. An RV cord would have a round prong for the ground.
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01-28-2021, 02:45 PM
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Location: Port Charlotte
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JRTJH
As a "retired master electrician" you should realize that a miswired 30 amp adapter can "easily apply 240 volts to a 30 amp trailer".... you can "just as easily apply 240 volts to the neutral/ground pins in a 50 amp plug. My "point" was that if he's not familiar with "converting my 30 amp plug to a 50 amp plug by changing the plug" he really ought not try to do it, something very dramatic could well happen as his "house wiring or his trailer wiring starts to smoke"....
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yes, I misread your post. My bad
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