New to diesel world

[tdawg]

Should I use a fuel treatment in the summer in a 2013 duramax

[hankpage]

Only if it is going to sit for long periods of time .... otherwise "Drive it like you stole it."

[shov]

Just like anything, every topic has a number of different opinions...

I run Diesel Kleen year round, silver bottle in the summer, white bottle in the winter. I also keep a bottle of DK 911 on hand during the winter, but that would depend on the climate your in.

To use to not to use additives is a personal preference

[GMcKenzie]

I use something every fill. But I have an 01 that needs the extra lubrication.

[puresilver66]

I always use fuel treatment. Started using Stanadyne years ago and just stuck with it. Strictly a personal preference. Just make sure it is a demulsifier as to separate water from fuel.

[T11ravis]

Originally Posted by puresilver66

I always use fuel treatment. Started using Stanadyne years ago and just stuck with it. Strictly a personal preference. Just make sure it is a demulsifier as to separate water from fuel.

+1 on Stanadyne

[PerryB]

I would not run a diesel without a lubricity improver, and most additives have this. Modern diesel fuel has nearly no lubrication value and high pressure /injector pumps are REALLY expensive. A lube additive is really cheap.

[hankaye]

tdawg, Howdy;

Welcome to the wunderful world of diesel...
Here's a link to a rather extensive study that a DieselPlace
forum member did a while back. If you're not a member you may
wish to join as they have tons of excellent info and they ARE disel
centered as opposed to RV centered.
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/76-...y-results.html
Have fun, get a comfortable seat adult beverage of your choice and settle
in.

hankaye

[PerryB]

Originally Posted by hankaye

tdawg, Howdy;

Welcome to the wunderful world of diesel...
Here's a link to a rather extensive study that a DieselPlace
forum member did a while back. If you're not a member you may
wish to join as they have tons of excellent info and they ARE disel
centered as opposed to RV centered.
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/76-...y-results.html
Have fun, get a comfortable seat adult beverage of your choice and settle
in.

hankaye

Wow. OK Hank, after reading that I'll rephrase my statement to say "I wouldn't run without something that improves the lubricity of the fuel". If that study is accurate, some products actually made it worse. I've always used Ford PM22A which is labeled as a lubricity and cetane improver. Love to know how it stacks up.

[DiverB]

Originally Posted by shov

Just like anything, every topic has a number of different opinions...

I run Diesel Kleen year round, silver bottle in the summer, white bottle in the winter. I also keep a bottle of DK 911 on hand during the winter, but that would depend on the climate your in.

To use to not to use additives is a personal preference

I'm in 100% agreement, I do the same and have no issue with my past 3 diesel trucks over the last 15 yrs

[hankaye]

Howdy All;

I've not posted what I choose to do or use and merely given a reference
to a diesel forum due to the Food truck theory...
Simply put; Ya won't find an Authentic Burrito at an Italian food truck, nor will
you find Good Brats an 'kraut on a Japanese Food truck.
What each of us finds that "works for me", may not work for someone else.
I'd rather find my diesel engine info at a diesel site not one devoted to RVs.
Which food truck do you prefer???

hankaye

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[Pull Toy]

Originally Posted by shov

Just like anything, every topic has a number of different opinions...

I run Diesel Kleen year round, silver bottle in the summer, white bottle in the winter. I also keep a bottle of DK 911 on hand during the winter, but that would depend on the climate your in.

To use to not to use additives is a personal preference

PLUS ONE for HANKAYE, you get Cetane Boost, plus injector cleaners/lubricators. Only diff is I use winter formula (white bottle) year round. Same price at WalMart, plus anti-gel. Here in Connecticut lately, it can freeze-up anytime! LOL

Remember 10th grade Algebra? Better Cetane + Happier Engine + Possibly better fuel mileage / over $15.00 +/- per Gal. = 300 +/- Gallons of treatment FOR NEXT TO NOTHING.

[Jim & DJ]

I do not use any additive in my diesel fuel. Block heater in the winter is about it.

07 f-350-d with a little over 90,000 mi. 11.2 mpg when pulling our 39 foot 5th wheel. Purchased truck in 07.

It would be great to have any one post that they use or don't use additives.

[bsmith0404]

I don't run anything in mine, over 100k miles on my current truck without a problem. This is a topic that is debated a lot amongst transporters as well. I know some who swear by additives and others who won't use them. On both sides of the camp there are people with well over 250k on original fuel systems. There are also a couple out there that use additives only in winter. That is something I have considered. I've heard , don't know how much truth there is to it, that diesel in northern states have anti-gelling agents added for winter fuel, but southern states do not. That is a concern when you buy 100 gallons of fuel in OK or TX and then go north.

I also know people who add tranny fluid to their fuel as a lubricant. I don't dare do that since it is red and will give the fuel a pink dyed color just like off road fuel.

[suddensam]

Originally Posted by hankaye

Howdy All;

I've not posted what I choose to do or use and merely given a reference
to a diesel forum due to the Food truck theory...
Simply put; Ya won't find an Authentic Burrito at an Italian food truck, nor will
you find Good Brats an 'kraut on a Japanese Food truck.
What each of us finds that "works for me", may not work for someone else.
I'd rather find my diesel engine info at a diesel site not one devoted to RVs.
Which food truck do you prefer???

hankaye

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I partially agree that in general you are probably going to get more diesel engine info at a diesel specific site but why not ask and look for information from people that are using their trucks in a similar fashion. After all you did point out some good data that others may or may not have known where to find. Thanks for sharing that, it might make me rethink what I've been using, see below. One of the downsides I see to some of the deisel/truck specific sites is weeding through all the issues and recommendations based on heavily modified vehicles. At least on the RV sites like this I'm more likely to find information that is specific to vehicles setup to tow various size RVs.

I have been using Power Service Diesel Kleen +Cetane boost for the last couple of years in my 2005 F350 with the 6.0l and 125k miles. I don't have any data to back it up but it seems like the engine runs smoother with it than without. Cost wise it is relatively cheap, I've been going through about a case a year, at about $75 a case ordered through Amazon.

Sam

[roadglide]

Originally Posted by tdawg

Should I use a fuel treatment in the summer in a 2013 duramax

I'm new to diesel trucks and have 2013 lml , my Gvw is 21500 lbs loaded cat scale. I don't use additives yet, it may add in lubricating injectors. My 1970 JD 350 crawler runs like a top. I use kleen additive because of how old it is.

[hankaye]

Howdy All;

Cetane what is it really???

Comfy place to sit, good lighting, favorite adult beverage ... settle in, enjoy;
http://www.fuelmagic.net/Cetane%20Booster.html
or this one
http://alternativefuels.about.com/od...t/a/cetane.htm
someone please tell me where Cetane applies to lubricity, please.

hankaye

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by hankaye

tdawg, Howdy;

Welcome to the wunderful world of diesel...
Here's a link to a rather extensive study that a DieselPlace
forum member did a while back. If you're not a member you may
wish to join as they have tons of excellent info and they ARE disel
centered as opposed to RV centered.
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/76-...y-results.html
Have fun, get a comfortable seat adult beverage of your choice and settle
in.

hankaye

I have read the report, and use the #2 ranked product.
In Order Of Performance:

1) 2% REG SoyPower biodiesel
HFRR 221, 415 micron improvement.
50:1 ratio of baseline fuel to 100% biodiesel
66.56 oz. of 100% biodiesel per 26 gallons of diesel fuel
Price: market value

2)Opti-Lube XPD
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
cetane improver, demulsifier
HFRR 317, 319 micron improvement.
256:1 ratio
13 oz/tank
$4.35/tank

I have checked and you can run 1/4 oz. per gallon, I pay about $50.00 a gallon. 4*128=512 gallons treated $50.00/512 is just under 10 cents a gallon to treat.

[shov]

So to the OP, some do and some don't. The ones that do say it works, the ones that don't say they don't need it. There is so much information out there it's mind boggling... If it's on the internet it must be true! And remember the government reports that said low fat diet was the way to go, well....

It's a few dollars per tank, if it makes you feel better add some. If not, you'll probably be fine also.

Winter is where I feel added security having the added anti-gelling, do I know for sure it works? NOPE

But do I use it? Yup

Here where I live, not unusual to reach 30-40 below (ambient)... Even with the anti-gelling I have experienced gelling fuel. Plugged in not plugged it, it doesn't matter or warm the fuel in the lines between the tank and the filter. When its cold its cold.

Happy camping everyone

[hankpage]

Originally Posted by rhagfo

I have read the report, and use the #2 ranked product.
In Order Of Performance:

1) 2% REG SoyPower biodiesel
HFRR 221, 415 micron improvement.
50:1 ratio of baseline fuel to 100% biodiesel
66.56 oz. of 100% biodiesel per 26 gallons of diesel fuel
Price: market value

2)Opti-Lube XPD
Multi-purpose + anti-gel
cetane improver, demulsifier
HFRR 317, 319 micron improvement.
256:1 ratio
13 oz/tank
$4.35/tank

I have checked and you can run 1/4 oz. per gallon, I pay about $50.00 a gallon. 4*128=512 gallons treated $50.00/512 is just under 10 cents a gallon to treat.

To the OP. ..... Look at #1 rated additive for lubricity ....... Now check the pump where you buy your fuel ..... you will find that most are selling a bio-fuel mixture ... there is your additive for lubricity.
As for cetane boost, only the seat of your pants can tell if it helps in YOUR situation.
Winter mixtures are not a myth. With the new fuel I don't know what they add, but it used to be kerosene and if cold enough it still gelled. My hwy mileage drops about 2 mpg until I get far enough south to avoid it.
As others have said .... It's your engine ... you know what you expect from it ...... you choose what you feed it. Either way it is not likely you will go back to a gasser. Consider yourself hooked. As usual, JM2¢, the other Hank