Why is da Weight Police so mean??!?

[flybouy]

Originally Posted by rhagfo

I did the same search, with same results. I took the picture and loaded in another window and took a pice of paper and marked the 8’ width on it then used it to measure length. The result was a length of about 22’ max. The issue was that for all model lines only the longest units had a forward bath, all the short units were rear bath.

The problem with that method is the perspective of the photo. The length of the trailer is not perpendicular to the camera lens but rather the rear end of the trailer is farther away than the front end. The effectivly "shortens" the length when attempting to measure a 3d object thats not flat to the viewer in a 2d plane.

Think of iot this way, stand at the corner of your camper looking down the side. If you "peek down thelength and hold a ruler at arms length how long does it appear? Then step around and face the side and try measuring again.

[wiredgeorge]

It is impressive that we have so many forensic investigators that have the time and skill to determine the cause of the terrible looking wreck. I just figured it was caused because they were trying to tow with a crappy foreign made SUV that was not intended for towing or the wind blew them and an uncontrollable swerve set up.

[jasin1]

Originally Posted by JRTJH

Yep, 375 horses of sheer "turbocharged power backed by a 8 speed automatic heavy duty transaxle with full time all wheel drive".... It'll pull anything on the lot....

The small print: But with the unibody construction, light curb weight and limited wheelbase, any trailer over about 4000 pounds will "overpower the vehicle and you might wind up upside down with all 4 tires "safely protected from further road damage".....

They concentrated all of the engineering on building a stronger roof in the event/inevitably of a wheels up attitude.

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by travelin texans

I was about 12-13 I went fishing with my Grandad, his usual tow vehicle for his 14' outboard boat was in the shop getting tires & serviced so they loaned him an Econoline pickup, I guess you'd call it a pickup it had a bed, we unloaded the boat, fished, loaded the boat on the trailer, now for reference this was a long steep ramp, but that "pickup" thing would only make a humming noise, it would not move that boat up that ramp, wouldn't even spin a tire on the wet ramp, finally got someone to tie on to it & tow it & the boat up the ramp, what a huge POS. That was my 1st Ford experience (unfortunately not my last) & my grandad's one & only Ford experience, his usual tow vehicle at that time was a '62 Buick Wildcat, that would've jerked that Econoline thing to pieces & drove Buicks til the day he passed.

LOL!
That was the reason I stuffed the 302 V8 in mine! It started with a 144 straight 6, gutless wonder. The final straw was coming home from a day of skiing. I passed a loaded log truck waiting at a road to pull on the highway. I was driving up a slight into a a slight headwind, I had it floored doing maybe 55. Within about a mile that log truck had caught me and passed me!

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by JRTJH

Doing a little "detective dog work" there's not a lot of hints on which floorplan or how big the trailer might be, but the roofline shows the shower skylight on the curbside forward part of the trailer. There are three 2020 Wilderness floorplans with that configuration:

2500RL, 32' long 7400 GVW
2575RK, 31' long 7400 GVW
3350DS, 38' long 9600 GVW

https://www.heartlandrvsource.com/sp...4210?year=2020

Surely, the driver in that photo wouldn't be trying to tow a 38' trailer..... Or would he ????? How could any salesman/service manager even consider selling something like this ???

Well I think it is a Trail Runner 255RL, my reasoning is I don’t see a refrigerator roof vent in the picture. True it could be in the left rear corner and blocked by the officers. That said the 255RL fits better, refrigerator in slide, and about 26’ long, yes still too larger for the pictured TV.
https://heartlandrvs.com/rv-model/trail-runner-255rl/

[RogerThat99]

Originally Posted by travelin texans

If that's a Nissan Rogue laying on it's top I think we passed them in Oregon late last week.
We traveled from Seattle area back to Arizona this past week & saw countless inappropriate tow vehicles towing RVs they were never designed to tow. Thanks to Covid the highways are full of folks that have absolutely no business towing anything with the vehicles they're using.

I believe it is a Porsche Cayenne.

[RogerThat99]

Originally Posted by Vinnie

Courtesy of my friends at the Solano station of the California Highway Patrol

I saw that pic yesterday from a Cal Trans buddy. Ot was between Vacaville and Fairfield, correct?

[jasin1]

Originally Posted by RogerThat99

I believe it is a Porsche Cayenne.

My vote is a Audi Q5 or q7

Edit : I think you may be right

[RogerThat99]

In no small SUV expert, but I heard it was a Cayenne from someone on the scene. Also the grille looks like a Cayenne and not an Audi.

[Laredo Tugger]

A few more "leads" for the detectives.
The Facebook page for that CHP office shows two pictures of the accident scene with a different (but not a really better to identify) angle on the trailer.
The following blog stated that the TV was a Porsche Cayenne, that can tow up to 7700 lbs. properly equipped. It also stated a dry weight of 6378 lbs. for that model trailer. Not sure if this info is correct about this incident or if this particular poster on the blog was on scene to verify.
Should help pin down what the trailer weight could of possibly been.
But obviously whatever the weight was, it was too much for that TV.
RMc

[notanlines]

From Google, our friend: "The Porsche Cayenne is well-known for its high-performance engine and sleek aesthetic, but we often get asked, “How much can the Porsche Cayenne tow?” The maximum towing capacity for the 2019 Porsche Cayenne is 7,700 pounds. Mar 27, 2019" Hard to believe over all.

[jasin1]

Originally Posted by RogerThat99

In no small SUV expert, but I heard it was a Cayenne from someone on the scene. Also the grille looks like a Cayenne and not an Audi.

Yeah I edited my post a min ago…it’s an odd choice having a cayenne for a tow vehicle with a traditional trailer…I would think they would have picked a $70000 airstream basecamp to better fit the image…with a couple of roadbikes and colorful spandex bike touring outfits

[RogerThat99]

Originally Posted by jasin1

Yeah I edited my post a min ago…it’s an odd choice having a cayenne for a tow vehicl with a traditional trailer…I would think they would have picked a $70000 airstream basecamp to better fit the image

I saw that you edited, after i made my post. Very true on the Airstream comment. LOL.

[Camping family]

This is what happens when you how with a 1/2 ton and should of at least had a w/4 if not a 1 ton. I tried loading photos but for some reason they will not load. But what happen was a vehicle passed and cut off so the truck went off the road trailer jacked knife flipped onto its side after hitting rear of truck. Trailer and truck totaled.

[Vinnie]

Traffic Lanes are 12', the shoulder appears wider than that, so even if it was straight across, that's a 26+ foot house, so a 30+ foot trailer, and the smallest one of that size is a 6900lb GVRW. With a hitch max of 617lb, not so good a choice.

[Vinnie]

Originally Posted by RogerThat99

I saw that pic yesterday from a Cal Trans buddy. Ot was between Vacaville and Fairfield, correct?

Yup. Driven that freeway many, many times. High speeds and long hills.

[flybouy]

Carnac the magnificant "What is literally being "upside down in your purchase of an SUV and camper ".

[Gegrad]

Originally Posted by RogerThat99

I believe it is a Porsche Cayenne.

I second this opinion. This was my thought looking at the picture before I got down to this portion of the thread.

[JRTJH]

Originally Posted by rhagfo

Well I think it is a Trail Runner 255RL, my reasoning is I don’t see a refrigerator roof vent in the picture. True it could be in the left rear corner and blocked by the officers. That said the 255RL fits better, refrigerator in slide, and about 26’ long, yes still too larger for the pictured TV.
https://heartlandrvs.com/rv-model/trail-runner-255rl/

Nope. The Trail Runner logo is on the front of the Trail Runner... The trailer that's on its side in the photo in post #1 says "Wilderness" on the front cap...

[RogerThat99]

Its weird you don't see any propane tanks. Maybe they are obscured by the trailer from the angle of the pic.