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12-05-2021, 01:10 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Lisbon
Posts: 551
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Originally Posted by JRTJH
Brantel,
Not to question your visual inspection of your brakes, but, are you sure they are Dexter brakes? It is my understanding that everything under the Cougar line in the past 3 or 4 years has all been Lippert. From the axles, bearings, springs, equalizers and brakes, they all come as a single assembly, installed on the trailer frame while it's upside down at the front door of the assembly line, then rotated "wheels down" and tires/wheels are installed....
Not saying your brakes aren't Dexter, just that I'm surprised they aren't Lippert... And, yes, LCI does buy most of their components from the lowest bidder (in China).....
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Dexter supplies the east coast trailers made in Indiana and Lippert supplies the west coast trailers made in Oregon.
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12-05-2021, 02:08 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Gaylord
Posts: 26,842
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steveo57
Dexter supplies the east coast trailers made in Indiana and Lippert supplies the west coast trailers made in Oregon.
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That may be "the way things are today", but historically, it's not always "Dexter east/Lippert west"... My trailer was made in Indiana and has Lippert axles. One of the "features" listed in the Cougar fifth wheel and Half Ton fifth wheel trailers for the past several years is the "Road Armor Wheel Suspension package with 360 Vibration Protection. That's a Lippert product.
The Half Ton travel trailers are not manufactured in the same facility as the fifth wheel trailers, so components used will differ. I understand that Keystone has (or is) building a new manufacturing line for the Cougar Half Ton fifth wheel series and separating that production from the "full size Cougar fifth wheel line. Until recently, both were "run down the same assembly line on different days".
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John
2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
2014 Cougar X Lite 27RKS
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12-05-2021, 03:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Newport
Posts: 215
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Mine has Dexter axles, brakes and springs but has the road armor equalizer suspension system.
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2021 Keystone Cougar Half-Ton 32BHS 5th Wheel
2022 F-450SD, Lariat Ultimate, CC, 4WD, FX4, Rapid Red, Curt A16/R24 Slider
Upgraded: 2020 F-250SD, XLT Pre, CC, SWB, 4WD, FX4, HCTP, 6.7 PSD, 3.55 e-lock, Blue Jeans Metallic
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12-05-2021, 06:03 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Gaylord
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brantel
Mine has Dexter axles, brakes and springs but has the road armor equalizer suspension system.
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In this day of "supply chain problems" the factory will use what they have or what they can get to keep the line moving. While there's a "preference for using the same equipment during a model year production run" you can almost count on production changes/substitutions throughout the year. If anyone has "OEM equipment throughout" consider it more luck than intention.
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John
2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
2014 Cougar X Lite 27RKS
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12-05-2021, 06:26 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Waco, Tx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brantel
Mine has Dexter axles, brakes and springs but has the road armor equalizer suspension system.
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So did my Avalanche before I had the disc brakes installed
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12-05-2021, 06:48 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: W. Texas
Posts: 17,600
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brantel
Mine has Dexter axles, brakes and springs but has the road armor equalizer suspension system.
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Mine had the same (with self adjusting brakes) until I replaced it all including disc brakes.
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Danny and Susan, wife of 56 years
2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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12-05-2021, 08:18 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Rockett, TX
Posts: 480
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brantel
Mine has Dexter axles, brakes and springs but has the road armor equalizer suspension system.
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Same here, trailer built in 2017, I believe this is prior to the current supply chain issues. The Dexter self adjusting brakes have been replaced with disc brakes.
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Jerry & Debbie
with Fur Babies Sasha & Sam
2018 Alpine 3401RS
2019 Ford F350 SRW
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12-07-2021, 11:52 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Newport
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To update folks on this post, Dexter will be covering the parts under warranty. Thanks Dexter for such great customer service.
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2021 Keystone Cougar Half-Ton 32BHS 5th Wheel
2022 F-450SD, Lariat Ultimate, CC, 4WD, FX4, Rapid Red, Curt A16/R24 Slider
Upgraded: 2020 F-250SD, XLT Pre, CC, SWB, 4WD, FX4, HCTP, 6.7 PSD, 3.55 e-lock, Blue Jeans Metallic
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03-07-2022, 07:26 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Newport
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Finally getting around to replacing all 4 brake systems and drums that Dexter sent me. (Thanks Dexter!)
What I found was that all 3 remaining brake system and drums were totally contaminated by excess grease that apparently came from either the factory or the dealer using the EZ Lube feature on these axles at PDI. I have never used this feature on this rig and have not done a hand repack on them since this was the end of the first season for this 2021 rig.
It is very likely that the grease contamination could have caused the original brake lining to delaminate and that the other 3 brakes would have failed soon also.
Personally I think the EZ Lube axles on RV's is a very bad idea!
The dealer for my next rig will have to prove to me that the brakes are not contaminated during the PDI process before I will take ownership!
On the bright side, I imagine my rig will stop much better now that I will have 4 brakes that are not coated in axle grease!
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2021 Keystone Cougar Half-Ton 32BHS 5th Wheel
2022 F-450SD, Lariat Ultimate, CC, 4WD, FX4, Rapid Red, Curt A16/R24 Slider
Upgraded: 2020 F-250SD, XLT Pre, CC, SWB, 4WD, FX4, HCTP, 6.7 PSD, 3.55 e-lock, Blue Jeans Metallic
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