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Old 06-18-2019, 04:52 PM   #21
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Pretty sure that they offer 14K GVWR on the 3500 GMC/Chevy.... somebody wasn't looking..

Ya'll quit buying them heated seats.. my '15 F350 dually diesel XLT has a door sticker with 6200 on it. And wide turn. [emoji16]
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Old 06-18-2019, 04:54 PM   #22
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I ordered an F350 with the 14k over the 13k. Not certain if there is any difference other than the sticker.
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Old 06-18-2019, 05:01 PM   #23
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Pretty sure that they offer 14K GVWR on the 3500 GMC/Chevy.... somebody wasn't looking..

Ya'll quit buying them heated seats.. my '15 F350 dually diesel XLT has a door sticker with 6200 on it. And wide turn. [emoji16]
I don’t have a Dually but I do love my heated seats...
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Old 06-18-2019, 05:03 PM   #24
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Heated is good but I use the 'cooled' feature more, especially here in the south where the leather gets hot.
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Old 06-18-2019, 05:19 PM   #25
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Heated is good but I use the 'cooled' feature more, especially here in the south where the leather gets hot.
Well I like vinyl, if it gets muddy I can use a water hose to clean it out..[emoji2957]
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Old 06-18-2019, 05:25 PM   #26
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Yes the turning is noticeably better. The payload on a 450 is less which makes no sense to me.
Bigger frame, bigger brakes, bigger front axle (4x4) and 19.5 wheels and tires
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Old 06-18-2019, 07:55 PM   #27
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Pretty sure that they offer 14K GVWR on the 3500 GMC/Chevy.... somebody wasn't looking..

Ya'll quit buying them heated seats.. my '15 F350 dually diesel XLT has a door sticker with 6200 on it. And wide turn. [emoji16]
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Heated is good but I use the 'cooled' feature more, especially here in the south where the leather gets hot.
Sorry Javi, 4X4, heated seats and steering wheel, and cooled seats, and the rear seats are heated also.
I also added on board air 150 psi 12 volt Viair system with 2.5 gal tank.
This is our daily driver and comfort is important.
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:01 PM   #28
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Well if the dude got his rear tire next to the curb, it would be inside the line.
Was very close to the curb. I see this truck parked in front of the small town police station a lot on my way to my RC Flying Field. I believe the owner is one of the officers. RHIP

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Old 06-18-2019, 08:34 PM   #29
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Yes the turning is noticeably better. The payload on a 450 is less which makes no sense to me.
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Bigger frame, bigger brakes, bigger front axle (4x4) and 19.5 wheels and tires
This is another where Ford believes it has "A Better Idea"!
Just like the F350 SRW with a 10,000# GVWR that is designed to help advoid crazy registration rules and fees for "Commercial" vehicles.
Keeping the GVWR limited to 14,000# on the F450 means less hassel with the Commercial issue, BUT can put the owner in legal limbo by being over GVWR if used to axle ratings.
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Old 06-19-2019, 05:45 AM   #30
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The poster asked about which truck to buy to pull his 5er. Apparently either might do the job. So, I need to ask, what's in your future? RVs for most will never last as long as the TV. Do you think another 5er will be in the future and if so, is it going to be bigger, smaller or exactly the same size and weight. If like most it will be heavier and likely longer. Get a DRW now so you have a vehicle able to make the change.
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Old 06-19-2019, 06:50 AM   #31
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The poster asked about which truck to buy to pull his 5er. Apparently either might do the job. So, I need to ask, what's in your future? RVs for most will never last as long as the TV. Do you think another 5er will be in the future and if so, is it going to be bigger, smaller or exactly the same size and weight. If like most it will be heavier and likely longer. Get a DRW now so you have a vehicle able to make the change.
X2 Ken!!
Everyone has chimed in here except the OP. Maybe the OP is reading our advice and maybe not. As Ken stated, the OP gave no real info as to how much "stuff" the trailer will have as cargo (kids,bikes,generator ect...). While it has plenty of capacity (3487 lbs.) the OP may never come close to max. Also no information about the "service expectation" of the trailer, full timing or towing maybe 3 times a year a couple hindered miles?
In this case (as explained by the OP) if it is not great burden financially or otherwise I would go with the dually. While it is true not everyone pulling a 5er needs a dually,that is a real heavy trailer fully loaded and the dually would be the best and safest TV. JMHO
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Old 06-19-2019, 08:03 AM   #32
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I believe the OP hasn't been back, but this is the RV he is referring to: Avalanche
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Old 06-19-2019, 10:53 AM   #33
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Ya'll quit buying them heated seats.. my '15 F350 dually diesel XLT has a door sticker with 6200 on it. And wide turn. [emoji16]

I think we talked before the difference between our 16 and your 15 is the 4x4. I’m glad I have it. It has pulled me out of the mud a couple times with or without the 5er attached. No heated seats since they are cloth.
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Old 06-19-2019, 12:39 PM   #34
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Waiting to see the sticker when my new one comes in. A lariat with heated/cooled seats and other junk. If not around 5k I'll be pissed.
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Old 06-19-2019, 08:09 PM   #35
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Waiting to see the sticker when my new one comes in. A lariat with heated/cooled seats and other junk. If not around 5k I'll be pissed.
We picked up our new 2019 F-350 DRW a week and a half ago. Lariat with Ultimate package, extended running boards, crew cab, long bed, spray in bed liner. No pucks in bed though, went with the B&W turnover ball again. Yellow sticker gives 5456 lbs payload. . And here are the first 2 weighs on a scale. First, truck alone (2 adults, 2 teens, Companion hitch, full tank of diesel). Second photo is truck and camper loaded with the typicals for us.
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We picked up our new 2019 F-350 DRW a week and a half ago. Lariat with Ultimate package, extended running boards, crew cab, long bed, spray in bed liner. No pucks in bed though, went with the B&W turnover ball again. Yellow sticker gives 5456 lbs payload. . And here are the first 2 weighs on a scale. First, truck alone (2 adults, 2 teens, Companion hitch, full tank of diesel). Second photo is truck and camper loaded with the typicals for us.
So if you believe in GVWR assuming it is 14K, you have 4660 pounds of capacity left.
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Old 06-20-2019, 03:14 AM   #37
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Thank you. We will be close. I did not get the. Bedliner and have just the wife but do have an auxiliary tank.
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Old 06-20-2019, 07:25 AM   #38
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FWIW I purchased my dually long before I purchased the camper but I knew going in that we would end up in a large 5vr. The camper weighs in at 15k with 2800 on the pin and the dually pulls and stops it with no issue.

As someone mentioned previously in the thread, go with the bigger truck that way you will be covered as you start looking at bigger campers.

The same logic now holds true for us as we are looking at even larger campers and am now considering moving into a Class 6 Peterbilt. You can never have too much truck.

Hope this helps. Happy shopping.
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Old 06-20-2019, 07:55 AM   #39
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A dually is needed when ever the rear axle weight is exceed, the gvwr of tow vehicle is exceed. All the new trucks are more than capable of pulling that trailer.questions arise when the trucks ratings are over the limits.. a truck may be rated to pull 18000lbs..However. if the pin weight, passengers, stuff in the truck push it over ratings, YES, A DUALLY IS CALLED FOR..or, smaller trailer.
3/4 tons gvwr are about 10000 lbs..1 tons are 12300 thereabouts, Duallys like the ram has a gvwr of 14000 lbs. With us in the truck and hitch. Fuel we are at 9000lbs. Leaving 5000 lbs of leeway..
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:15 AM   #40
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Read them all

Thanks to all who have replied and commented on my post. Rest assured I have read each and every one of them and I am compiling a detailed list for the DW. Having a background in accounting she understands numbers so you are all helping me win my argument. I decided some time back to get the dually and have been looking for the right deal. No, we are not full timers and won't be, although once she retires we will hit the road for longer stretches and distances, and I won't have to worry about the mountains with the diesel under the hood. It's just me, the DW (who plans to drive a separate vehicle on ALL trips) and our two small dogs. The 5er is loaded with as much STUFF as we will ever carry so it isn't close to gross wt. As far as upgrading to a bigger unit in the future, that has also been a consideration for the truck purchase. In 30 plus years of RVing I've made that mistake before and don't intend to repeat. Thanks again for all your input. It is greatly appreciated!
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