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Old 02-20-2020, 09:58 PM   #61
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A lot of "play" truck with a lot of stupid.....how does that go?.....Hey ya'll, watch this! Dang! Destroyed the truck, insurance doesn't pay and I still owe 6 years for these darn deployed airbags! You can't fix stuff like that.....
You just can't fix it!!!
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Old 02-21-2020, 05:08 AM   #62
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A lot of "play" truck with a lot of stupid.....how does that go?.....Hey ya'll, watch this! Dang! Destroyed the truck, insurance doesn't pay and I still owe 6 years for these darn deployed airbags! You can't fix stuff like that.....
In what universe was that ever a good idea with a non specially designed racing raptor? They very likely bent the frame... watch closely and the whole front end just shudders. That truck might actually be very close to totaled. One of those where the damage is MUCH worse than it appears from the surface. That video is over 7 years old, so not a new one, but darn. Morans.


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Old 02-21-2020, 06:46 AM   #63
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That video just reinforces my convictions about NEVER buying a used vehicle !!!
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Old 02-21-2020, 06:52 AM   #64
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The loaded pin weight on my Alpine 3651 is 3380 so no way we could have gone with a SRW.
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Old 02-21-2020, 06:52 AM   #65
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That video just reinforces my convictions about NEVER buying a used vehicle !!!
It’s why we bought a new Raptor. Gen 1 raptors are notorious for bent frames behind the cab.

The trucks are designed to go fast and soak bumps on a ROAD course in the dirt. Not to play Nitro Circus with your buddies

Ford provides. FREE 1 school for all new Raptor owners. Raptor Assault. Headed to Tootle UT in June to take it all in, they provide the trucks thankfully. $5000 deductible if you break one.
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Old 03-27-2020, 06:04 PM   #66
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2020 F350 Lariat CCLB 6.7
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Old 03-27-2020, 06:35 PM   #67
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Nice looking truck. I'm amazed at the increases in payload for what are essentially the same trucks as before as best I've found. I would not buy a 2019 diesel due to the lower payloads (along with other things). Now, the way it's going I'm thinking wait a couple of years and a 350 will have a 5k payload..?? And the wars continue...

Something that worries me about a Ford, that I looked at today, what is the deal with those huge bed fenders (high). Now that I have a 5th wheel I don't see how I could consider a Ford unless I bought a lowering kit for the truck or a lift kit for the trailer. What they are doing doesn't make a lot of sense for regular truck/tow/work owners doesn't appear.
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Old 03-27-2020, 06:56 PM   #68
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Danny,

The "height and cargo box sidewall height" are deceiving.

As an example, my 2015 F250 bed height is 37.8" (ground to open tailgate top surface) and the cargo bed walls are 20" (top of bed floor to plastic protector on top of the bed sidewalls) That's 57.8" ground to top of the box.

The 2020 F250 bed height is 37.2" and the bed wall height is 21.1". That's 58.3" ground to top of the box.

The 2020 bedwell is 1.1" taller than my truck but the truck sits 0.6" lower at the bed, so in reality there only about half an inch difference between the 2015 and the 2020 truck from the ground to the top of the cargo bed.

The F350 SRW is 0.3" lower to the ground than the F250 SRW (both 4x4's)

That said, when I pull up next to one at a stop light, just sitting in the driver's seat, it sure looks like the new F250's are "at least 6 or 8 inches taller".... They aren't (with a tape measure) but they sure look like they are......
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Old 03-27-2020, 07:37 PM   #69
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Guess I need to get out the tape measure. Had my contractor drop by today with a new Ford 250 and I would have swore it had to be at least 6" taller than my 3500. 1/2" is doable.
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Old 03-27-2020, 07:41 PM   #70
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Every time I pull up next to a new one, I think, No way in hell I could even climb into the cab... But at the dealership, with a tape measure, there's not nearly as much difference as it looks when standing beside one.
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Old 03-27-2020, 08:56 PM   #71
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The 2020 is about 1.5" taller then my 2011 F250 at the open tailgate but looks massive overall in comparison. Supposedly the 20's are about 1.5" shorter then the 17'-19'. The ride quality is much nicer on the 2020.
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How long did the ordering process take, from sign to deliver?

Also, your dealer work with you on the price?
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Old 03-29-2020, 07:40 AM   #73
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How long did the ordering process take, from sign to deliver?

Also, your dealer work with you on the price?
Your "best bet" if you can find someone who works for Ford or is retired from Ford is to get a "friends and family document". I've found that to be the "best price on "minimal discounted vehicles"... You can often negotiate a better deal on "end of year clearance incentives" but during the sales year, before those incentives kick in, the "friends and family" is about 5% less than the Sam's Club or Costco pricing discounts.

That said, ALL North American Ford assembly lines are closed and last Tuesday, Ford announced that they will not be opening on March 30 as planned. So, there's nothing leaving the assembly line, nothing starting on the assembly line and that's an "indefinite situation" right now. Ford has not announced any plans to reopen on any specific date, but you can bet they want to go back to work ASAP. When that happens is "anybody's guess" right now, so delays in delivery of special order vehicles "keeps building up in the "not started yet" computer list.... https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...wn/2906971001/
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Old 03-29-2020, 07:59 AM   #74
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How long did the ordering process take, from sign to deliver?

Also, your dealer work with you on the price?
When I ordered mine, it was ordered the day after Thanksgiving (Black Friday) hit town on the 5th of FEB up fitted with the steps and bed cover I picked up from the dealer on the 12th.
I was able to use Fords X plan in the end it was about 10% off the sticker
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I ordered mine on Feb 17 and was delivered on March 17. The Ford build tracker originally said April 1st delivery. I used Costco's auto buying program. That price was $72,498 a few hundred over invoiced. $1250 rebate, $2000 PCO for a total of $69,248. As stated before, Ford has stopped production.
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I think this will be a short M/Y
I bet when they start up it will be the 21's on the line. They will build out the 20 just because of the parts they have on hand that only fit the 20's. I believe they start the new MY in July maybe earlier. That way they can have cars to transport to dealers around the country. You might be able to get a deal on a 20. I don't know how dealers are handling the car. (maybe) shortage. I don't think they have many customers right now. Pricing could be good if that's the case.
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Old 03-30-2020, 06:54 AM   #77
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It could be a short model year, but I believe the 20's didn't start production until November. GM and Ram were much earlier in the year. FYI, I didn't discuss financing until I was able to take delivery after all the 0% and deferred payment hype. Ford's rates were terrible. With excellent credit the best they could do was 1.9% for 3 years or 6.9% for 5 years. All the 0% for 84 months were on 2019 150's and other leftovers. Nothing for superdutys. Maybe that will change after another month of shutdowns.
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I was looking at the GMC website to build and price a Denali for a friend and the site only has 19's. Whats up with that GMC?
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I just pulled up the 2020 "build and price" website. Maybe you clicked on the "change to 2019 webpages". The link to "last year is in the upper right corner of the webpage....
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If I were to upgrade my truck I’d have to take all the weight including the 5th wheel hitch out. That would let me compare true unloaded heights.
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