Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Keystone RV Forums > Keystone Community Forums > Campfire Chatter
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 10-05-2014, 10:35 AM   #1
Javi
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Waco, Tx
Posts: 5,457
25% off MSRP enough or....

Should I hold out for 30%

Trade offer wasn't that good either but I expected that with the Passport.
Javi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2014, 10:51 AM   #2
chuckster57
Site Team
 
chuckster57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Modesto
Posts: 20,319
I always tell people if YOUR happy with the numbers go for it, if not tell them what your expecting and if they can't get close walk away. It's not like they are the only dealer.

Took me 3 years to get my current trailer, I walked out LOTS of times.
__________________

2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.

Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
chuckster57 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2014, 10:55 AM   #3
jsmith948
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Central San Joaguin Valley, CA
Posts: 2,117
Not sure. We bought ours during the Pomona RV Show without a trade-in for right at 33% under msrp. If we had a trade, we might not have done as well if the dealer was trying to get some of the trade in allowance back?
__________________

Jack & Marty
2018 Laredo 298 SRL
2011 F-250 SB Crew Cab 4x4 6.7L
jsmith948 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2014, 11:11 AM   #4
So Cal CPA
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Camarillo
Posts: 92
I purchased our 2013 cougar in September 2013 for about 1/3 off msrp; last one on the lot, And I got what I asked for in trade.

I agree with what what was said before, if your happy than your happy with the numbers. In my case I was and it came down to good timing and maybe some luck too.
__________________
2013 Cougar 28RBS
2013 Ram 1500 Hemi 3.92 axle
So Cal CPA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2014, 12:16 PM   #5
Javi
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Waco, Tx
Posts: 5,457
While I can live with the numbers I am disappointed in the trade-in offer. It is about $2K light in my opinion. I've checked around and it was lowball at best, but not completely out of line either.

I knew I would lose money on the Passport from the get go, as I paid too much from the start. Long story; but I was so happy the DW finally decided to go camping I'd have paid anything they asked as long as she liked the trailer.

I really like this dealer and have never heard a bad thing about his dealings, I want to buy from him but I'm not going to give money away either.

He's checking our credit but I have not signed any agreements other than authorizing the credit check and have no earnest money down. So, I'm free to walk away at this point. And I have no intention of signing or giving any money until I'm happy with the deal, the interest rate and the term.
Javi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2014, 12:47 PM   #6
GaryWT
Senior Member
 
GaryWT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: MA
Posts: 3,153
Good luck. I find it funny that different dealers can have different msrp's for the same trailer. My dealer had it listed as about $36k when most other list it as 40k. Makes the deal look better or more money in the dealers pocket. My dealer always said they get a better price when they order a larger number of trailers. Anyway, hope your numbers work out for you.
__________________
2013 Premier 31BHPR
2014 F350 6.2L
Soon to be just DW and I
GaryWT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2014, 01:06 PM   #7
Javi
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Waco, Tx
Posts: 5,457
Quote:
Originally Posted by GaryWT View Post
Good luck. I find it funny that different dealers can have different msrp's for the same trailer. My dealer had it listed as about $36k when most other list it as 40k. Makes the deal look better or more money in the dealers pocket. My dealer always said they get a better price when they order a larger number of trailers. Anyway, hope your numbers work out for you.
Gary, depending on stuff like a second a/c or pleather vs cloth I've seen pretty close to the same MSRP listed for the 2015 Cougar 333MKS at $55K give or take a grand for the extras.. this one is listed at $55,998. Now the asking price varies greatly even within a 200 mile radius of me.. from $56K down to $41K.. Like you said that just gives them room to play the negotiating game. I hate that game... and pretty much refuse to play.

I'm running numbers right now in a spread sheet and I think we're only about $1800 apart... if he'll meet that as trade in value I'll be a happy camper.. if not I guess we camp in the Passport another year.. We really hate the small bath but we've also lived with it for 2 years so I guess we can do another.

Or.. I may just sell the 2890RL and wait it out..
Javi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2014, 02:35 PM   #8
Festus2
Site Team
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Fraser Valley BC Canada
Posts: 7,015
Gary -
MSRP means exactly that --- 'Manufacturer's SUGGESTED Retail Price" and since dealers are free to set their own prices, it is not too surprising that you will find different prices for the same unit.
__________________
2008 Cougar 5th Wheel 27RKS
2005 2500 GMC Duramax
Festus2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2014, 07:09 PM   #9
Ken / Claudia
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Fruitland
Posts: 3,357
I got the keystone at the fall RV show and it was about 30% or 33% off MSRP. Javi sounds like your close to making a deal. Remind them that your a return customer and you use their name to friends about how good they treat you. That should be worth them helping close the deal. Maybe get a nice big discount at the parts dept. or something. Good Luck
__________________
2013 24RKSWE (27ft TT) Cougar 1/2 ton series SOLD 10-2021
2013 Ford F350 4x4 CC 6.7 engine, 8 ft bed, 3.55 rear end, lariat package
Retired from Oregon State Police in 2011 than worked another 9.5 years as a small town traffic cop:
As of 05-2020, I am all done with 39 years total police work. No more uniforms for me.
Ken / Claudia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2014, 09:06 PM   #10
wayfun
Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Central KY
Posts: 79
Quote:
Originally Posted by Javi View Post
Should I hold out for 30%

Trade offer wasn't that good either but I expected that with the Passport.
On a straight buy from RVwholesaler.com I received about a third off msrp. In a few minutes you can get a quote from them as a comparison. I tried to buy locally and trade my previous trailer in but they wanted the same cash with the trade in as what RVWholesaler straight out. I just sold my trailer myself and saved $8500.

Dennis
wayfun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2014, 03:08 AM   #11
mguay
Senior Member
 
mguay's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Northern NH
Posts: 191
Quote:
Originally Posted by Javi View Post
While I can live with the numbers I am disappointed in the trade-in offer. It is about $2K light in my opinion. I've checked around and it was lowball at best, but not completely out of line either.

I knew I would lose money on the Passport from the get go, as I paid too much from the start.
Sounds to me like you answered your own question!

You think the trade offer is light and you felt from the get go that you over payed for the Passport.

I guess if you want to row the same boat the next time you want to trade up...go for it.
__________________
2015 GMC Sierra 3500 Denali CC LB DRW Sonoma Red/Cocoa Dune
2010 Keystone Laredo 316RL
mguay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2014, 03:30 AM   #12
Javi
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Waco, Tx
Posts: 5,457
Quote:
Originally Posted by mguay View Post
Sounds to me like you answered your own question!

You think the trade offer is light and you felt from the get go that you over payed for the Passport.

I guess if you want to row the same boat the next time you want to trade up...go for it.
No I KNEW I over paid on the Passport, well not really on the trailer itself... well okay maybe a little

What I did that is costing me on trading in the Passport was to buy the hitch and a few add-ons and add it to the sale. In my defense, I was just so glad that after 39 years of marriage and me going camping alone the wife was agreeing to go along. I truly thought I'd be selling the trailer in less than 6 months anyway... Then she actually liked camping.. who would have guessed.. certainly no one that knew her... previously her idea of camping was to stay in a Holiday Inn... She was not a traveler in the least.

In looking back I think I'd have paid double for that trailer cause its the only one that she smiled and said I like this trailer, lets buy it.. And the 50+ nights we've spent in it are pretty much priceless.

This time around I have the hitch, and all the necessary gear so there isn't anything added. I'm just buying the trailer, not the whole store.

As for trading up again... At our age we're not going there.... this is our last truck, trailer and home... The DW retired last month, I retire in 5 years (got to pay off all the toys) and we're done.

Park in the shade and fish...
Javi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2014, 10:36 AM   #13
Desert185
Senior Member
 
Desert185's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Nevada
Posts: 2,695
Sometimes patience pays and sometimes procrastination doesn't. The enjoyment of instant gratification is often worth the money, though. Whatever your decision, enjoy pre-retirement and actual retirement when it comes.
__________________
Desert185 🇺🇸 (Retired Chemtrail vendor)
-Ram 2500 QC, LB, 4x4, Cummins HO/exhaust brake, 6-speed stick.
-Andersen Ultimate 24K 5er Hitch.
-2014 Cougar 326SRX, Maxxis tires w/TPMS, wet bolts, two 6v batts.
-Four Wheel 8' Popup Camper.
Desert185 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2014, 01:45 PM   #14
Ken / Claudia
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Fruitland
Posts: 3,357
I checked curtis trailers in Portland, OR. They list that trailer at 58,431 currently on special at 43,999 thats a 2015. Just to compare with what you listed at your nearby dealer.
__________________
2013 24RKSWE (27ft TT) Cougar 1/2 ton series SOLD 10-2021
2013 Ford F350 4x4 CC 6.7 engine, 8 ft bed, 3.55 rear end, lariat package
Retired from Oregon State Police in 2011 than worked another 9.5 years as a small town traffic cop:
As of 05-2020, I am all done with 39 years total police work. No more uniforms for me.
Ken / Claudia is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2014, 03:04 PM   #15
Festus2
Site Team
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Fraser Valley BC Canada
Posts: 7,015
Quote:
Originally Posted by Javi View Post

I knew I would lose money on the Passport from the get go, as I paid too much from the start. Long story; but I was so happy the DW finally decided to go camping I'd have paid anything they asked as long as she liked the trailer.

.
Now that your DW has the camping bug and is enjoying the RVing lifestyle, I am wondering if you are still prepared to "pay anything" just so long as your wife likes the new one? Maybe all this discussion about 1/3 off the MSRP is a moot point and you could, as you said you did, end up paying too much again.

Who said, "If it ain't broke don't fix it."?

My money's on your wife, Javi. Or should I say YOUR money......
__________________
2008 Cougar 5th Wheel 27RKS
2005 2500 GMC Duramax
Festus2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2014, 03:44 PM   #16
Javi
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Waco, Tx
Posts: 5,457
Quote:
Originally Posted by Festus2 View Post
Now that your DW has the camping bug and is enjoying the RVing lifestyle, I am wondering if you are still prepared to "pay anything" just so long as your wife likes the new one? Maybe all this discussion about 1/3 off the MSRP is a moot point and you could, as you said you did, end up paying too much again.

Who said, "If it ain't broke don't fix it."?

My money's on your wife, Javi. Or should I say YOUR money......
Well, she said either we get the bigger bath or we quit camping and sell the Passport.. She hates the bath in the Passport
Javi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2014, 05:15 PM   #17
mguay
Senior Member
 
mguay's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Northern NH
Posts: 191
Found this...http://www.rvtrader.com/New-and-Used...3mks&newsort=1

Sounds like your numbers are in the right $$$. You could save a couple of grand and drive...but you will have to cover expenses on the trip.
__________________
2015 GMC Sierra 3500 Denali CC LB DRW Sonoma Red/Cocoa Dune
2010 Keystone Laredo 316RL
mguay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2014, 05:29 AM   #18
Javi
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Waco, Tx
Posts: 5,457
Quote:
Originally Posted by mguay View Post
Found this...http://www.rvtrader.com/New-and-Used...3mks&newsort=1

Sounds like your numbers are in the right $$$. You could save a couple of grand and drive...but you will have to cover expenses on the trip.
I bought it this morning $41K with 2nd air and matching slide toppers..
Javi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2014, 05:50 AM   #19
chuckster57
Site Team
 
chuckster57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Modesto
Posts: 20,319
Congrats!!
__________________

2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.

Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
chuckster57 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2014, 05:51 AM   #20
Desert185
Senior Member
 
Desert185's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Nevada
Posts: 2,695
Life is good! Congrats.
__________________
Desert185 🇺🇸 (Retired Chemtrail vendor)
-Ram 2500 QC, LB, 4x4, Cummins HO/exhaust brake, 6-speed stick.
-Andersen Ultimate 24K 5er Hitch.
-2014 Cougar 326SRX, Maxxis tires w/TPMS, wet bolts, two 6v batts.
-Four Wheel 8' Popup Camper.
Desert185 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Keystone RV Company or any of its affiliates in any way. Keystone RV® is a registered trademark of the Keystone RV Company.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.