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Old 09-28-2020, 07:22 PM   #81
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I think I will start a new thread. "I have a truck that's too damn big for my trailer. Should I trade it in for a 1/2 ton.?"
Reminds me of one campground where a bunch of college kids showed up with tents and stuff. One of them had an old dusty one ton DRW diesel farm truck pulling a beat up little popup camper. They were actually really good neighbors.
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Old 09-28-2020, 09:17 PM   #82
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My CAT numbers

I hate to add to the SRW or DRW, but thought I would give you my weights from the CAT Scale.

My truck is 2017 F350 SRW Diesel crew cab 6 3/4 ft bed 4x4 11500#GVW hitch in a Reese manual slider.

Trailer is 2017 Montana High country
Specs listed
Dry Wt. 11,180#
Pay load 3,065#
GVWR 14,254#
Pin 2,245#

I wanted to stay under the 26,000# non commercial CDL limit. In Texas you are required to have one I called the State Trooper office.

Did CAT scale with myself and wife some gear and 1/2 tank diesel.
Trailer had 2 full propane tanks no black grey or fresh water in tanks. Food and general stuff in trailer and belly storage loaded with lots of stuff and 4 totes of hoses and other stuff.

Pick up only

Steer axle 5020#
Drive axle 3,440#
Total 8,460

Pickup with Trailer
Steer axle 5,160#
Drive axle 6,129#
Trailer Axles 9,500#
Gross Weight 20,789#

I work hard to manage weight to stay way under max. I use a haul gauge between CAT scale checks it’s not perfect but closer than I thought it would be.

I now move what I can to the rear of the trailer it also has fold down rack on the back to lighten pin load a little.

I got more great info from this and other sites before I purchased the trailer and truck, RV and Ford dealers were no help at all, did not have a clue on load requirements. If they ever start making RV,s cross the scales their revenue from the fines will be surprising.
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Old 09-29-2020, 07:55 AM   #83
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With all this talk about Ford "big block V-8's", I ran across this article about the "newest addition to the Ford legacy", the "gas 7.3" which Ford intends to bridge the gap between the 6.2 base engine and the 6.7 diesel "workhorse". Strange that Ford built it from scratch with the "same displacement as their famous, best seller diesel" and the article touches on some of the reasons...

It seems to be as thirsty as it's predecessors, which is no big surprise when you consider that it takes a tremendous amount of energy to translate "liquid gold into fluid motion"....

Anyway, here's one review of the new Ford 7.3 gas engine: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ign=nl21384602
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Old 09-29-2020, 08:23 AM   #84
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Oh man! Ford big blocks.... I had the 360, 351, 390s at one time off the top of my head (when I was a Ford guy) and my buddy had that old 460 - 78 I think. But now we're talking the 7.3 (Godzilla). The 7.3 is about what I've been begging FCA to come out with - a bridge between the high powered (and costly) diesels and the gas engines that just aren't quite where I would like to see them (I always asked for 500lbs. of torque). Then, the other day, I was watching the test in the link below. Oh boy....a Ford might be in my future - it seemed pretty impressive.

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Old 09-29-2020, 08:38 AM   #85
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My first 3/4 ton pick was a '66 GMC with the 305E v-6 now that was a workhorse.. it had started life as a stake-bed and someone put an 8ft 1970 bed on it..
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Old 09-29-2020, 09:01 AM   #86
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Oh man! Ford big blocks.... I had the 360, 351, 390s at one time off the top of my head (when I was a Ford guy) and my buddy had that old 460 - 78 I think. But now we're talking the 7.3 (Godzilla). The 7.3 is about what I've been begging FCA to come out with - a bridge between the high powered (and costly) diesels and the gas engines that just aren't quite where I would like to see them (I always asked for 500lbs. of torque). Then, the other day, I was watching the test in the link below. Oh boy....a Ford might be in my future - it seemed pretty impressive.


I take it you have that brand new Ram paid off and have worked up the courage to break the news that a Ford future awaits to your missus?
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Old 09-29-2020, 09:11 AM   #87
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I think I will start a new thread. "I have a truck that's too damn big for my trailer. Should I trade it in for a 1/2 ton.?"
Count me in. 3500 towing a 8K TT. Problem is the truck was paid for in full before getting on an airplane to go drive it home from Colorado in 2015. Chris
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Old 10-12-2020, 04:16 AM   #88
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I personally think it's a good idea to get a weight slip for every trip, for two reasons.

1) You may surprise yourself.

2) If you are in an accident, you will certainly be challenged to show you were not overweight. That is a lot easier to prove when your setup is still in one piece than it is when it's littering the highway in pieces.

In a civil tort case, the jury is not going to give two hoots about how manly you think your truck is when it is found you were 1000 lbs over gross and didn't bother to check your weight and balance.

So, fuel up (all the way), then hit the scale. It only takes a few minutes.
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Old 10-12-2020, 05:19 AM   #89
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I hate to add to the SRW or DRW, but thought I would give you my weights from the CAT Scale.

My truck is 2017 F350 SRW Diesel crew cab 6 3/4 ft bed 4x4 11500#GVW hitch in a Reese manual slider.

Trailer is 2017 Montana High country
Specs listed
Dry Wt. 11,180#
Pay load 3,065#
GVWR 14,254#
Pin 2,245#

I wanted to stay under the 26,000# non commercial CDL limit. In Texas you are required to have one I called the State Trooper office.

Did CAT scale with myself and wife some gear and 1/2 tank diesel.
Trailer had 2 full propane tanks no black grey or fresh water in tanks. Food and general stuff in trailer and belly storage loaded with lots of stuff and 4 totes of hoses and other stuff.

Pick up only

Steer axle 5020#
Drive axle 3,440#
Total 8,460

Pickup with Trailer
Steer axle 5,160#
Drive axle 6,129#
Trailer Axles 9,500#
Gross Weight 20,789#

I work hard to manage weight to stay way under max. I use a haul gauge between CAT scale checks it’s not perfect but closer than I thought it would be.

I now move what I can to the rear of the trailer it also has fold down rack on the back to lighten pin load a little.

I got more great info from this and other sites before I purchased the trailer and truck, RV and Ford dealers were no help at all, did not have a clue on load requirements. If they ever start making RV,s cross the scales their revenue from the fines will be surprising.
This is exactly why I went with a DRW!
Our 5er is maxed pushing 13,000#, we full time and carry an in bed tool box with some weight in it. Our old 2001 Ram 2500 CTD weighed 7,800# ready to tow on a 8,800# GVWR. Needless to say we were a bit over GVWR, while still within axle and tires.
I did the math based on a post 2013 Ram 3500 SRW with 12,500# GVWR, I was going to be right at GVWR.
Just an FYI between DW, Me, small dog, stuff in the tool box, on board VIAIR compressor (30#), and hitch we added 1,411# to the TV putting us right at 10,000# ready to tow. Leaving 4,000# for a 5er pin.
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Old 10-12-2020, 05:35 AM   #90
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I hate to add to the SRW or DRW, but thought I would give you my weights from the CAT Scale.

My truck is 2017 F350 SRW Diesel crew cab 6 3/4 ft bed 4x4 11500#GVW hitch in a Reese manual slider.

Trailer is 2017 Montana High country
Specs listed
Dry Wt. 11,180#
Pay load 3,065#
GVWR 14,254#
Pin 2,245#

I wanted to stay under the 26,000# non commercial CDL limit. In Texas you are required to have one I called the State Trooper office.

Did CAT scale with myself and wife some gear and 1/2 tank diesel.
Trailer had 2 full propane tanks no black grey or fresh water in tanks. Food and general stuff in trailer and belly storage loaded with lots of stuff and 4 totes of hoses and other stuff.

Pick up only

Steer axle 5020#
Drive axle 3,440#
Total 8,460

Pickup with Trailer
Steer axle 5,160#
Drive axle 6,129#
Trailer Axles 9,500#
Gross Weight 20,789#

I work hard to manage weight to stay way under max. I use a haul gauge between CAT scale checks it’s not perfect but closer than I thought it would be.

I now move what I can to the rear of the trailer it also has fold down rack on the back to lighten pin load a little.

I got more great info from this and other sites before I purchased the trailer and truck, RV and Ford dealers were no help at all, did not have a clue on load requirements. If they ever start making RV,s cross the scales their revenue from the fines will be surprising.
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This is exactly why I went with a DRW!
Our 5er is maxed pushing 13,000#, we full time and carry an in bed tool box with some weight in it. Our old 2001 Ram 2500 CTD weighed 7,800# ready to tow on a 8,800# GVWR. Needless to say we were a bit over GVWR, while still within axle and tires.
I did the math based on a post 2013 Ram 3500 SRW with 12,500# GVWR, I was going to be right at GVWR.
Just an FYI between DW, Me, small dog, stuff in the tool box, on board VIAIR compressor (30#), and hitch we added 1,411# to the TV putting us right at 10,000# ready to tow. Leaving 4,000# for a 5er pin.
I just wanted to point out that the Texas law is based on registered weight not actual..

This gets a lot of folks into trouble... I know several of us on this forum have had issue with that.. In my case the dealer registered my dually for 10,000 pounds GVWR and I was grossly over with even the Cougar.. Easy fix, just go to the county and register for the stickered GVWR..
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Old 10-12-2020, 11:47 AM   #91
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I just wanted to point out that the Texas law is based on registered weight not actual..

This gets a lot of folks into trouble... I know several of us on this forum have had issue with that.. In my case the dealer registered my dually for 10,000 pounds GVWR and I was grossly over with even the Cougar.. Easy fix, just go to the county and register for the stickered GVWR..
I see this a lot in il. 2500's with b plates on them.i have a c plate
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I just wanted to point out that the Texas law is based on registered weight not actual..

This gets a lot of folks into trouble... I know several of us on this forum have had issue with that.. In my case the dealer registered my dually for 10,000 pounds GVWR and I was grossly over with even the Cougar.. Easy fix, just go to the county and register for the stickered GVWR..
Similar here in SC. A passenger tag gets you 11k GVWR. If you want to be legal over that you have to get a P tag. Mine is registered for 19k and costs about $200 every two years.

A large SUV pulling a U-Haul trailer can bust the passenger tag limit though I've never heard of anyone actually getting an overweight ticket for that.
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