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07-12-2015, 07:58 PM
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Towmaster Problems Not Like This One
I've read about a lot of problems with the Tow Master Tires but I haven't seen one like this.
I walked past the back of my the wheel and noticed a bump under the spare tire cover. Much to my suprize I found that the Towmaster tire had ballooned almost to the breaking point. This tire had never been on the ground and has always been covered. Granted it is 4 years old but am I ever glad that this happened while it was on the spare tire carrier not when I need it for a spare.
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07-13-2015, 02:46 AM
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I was told by the service manager he has seen this before.
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07-13-2015, 04:54 AM
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I believe that is the rear air bag model.
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07-13-2015, 06:47 AM
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My friends TH had this just before they left on a trip about 300 miles from home. He had to replace all 6 tires. He contacted his extended warranty guys and got close to replacement for what he had spent on new tires. A local guy came out and checked it out was like we see this a lot. Lucky he spotted it before his trip.
second one I have seen this year like that. well he had 5 out of six tires bad too. the others had the broken tread belt problem..
randy
Ps I had a picture on here it might be around somewhere.
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07-13-2015, 11:00 AM
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So is that what happens when a belt just snaps on its own?
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07-13-2015, 11:22 AM
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On edit.
Lost ref pix
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07-13-2015, 02:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bsmith0404
I believe that is the rear air bag model.
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Now this is funny...I don't care who you are!!!
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07-16-2015, 05:31 AM
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Dang, we can't even count on them to just do nothing. I didn't replace my spare when I upgraded to Maxxis. Guess I should keep a close eye on it, and lower my expectations of Towmaster even more.
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07-16-2015, 06:49 AM
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Tow Master? Or Power King Towmax? Pics won't work for me.
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07-16-2015, 11:47 AM
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I have not seen that. I have seen them mounted on the bumper with a cover after they blew up and were never used. I do not think it is a brand thing, it is a over hot tire and as all tires they get rotten.
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08-18-2015, 04:07 AM
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ST Tires
All you people keep replacing ST tires with ST tires. It doesn't matter which ST you purchase, they are all made overseas and are very poor quality. I have tried every ST manufacturer there is in all my 24 years of RVing and there is not one, repeat not one that is better than the other. I have gotten so good at changing blowouts that I have been asked to be a tire changer for NASCAR. All kidding aside, I switched on the last 2 campers I have owned to LT 10 ply tires and have had the best luck. I have been running the BF Goodrich Commercial TA on my campers and I am very pleased. I experienced 12 blowouts with ST tires and since I have changed to LT tires, 0 tire issues. I store my RV indoors on concrete out of the sun and maintain proper air pressure in them all the time, 80 psi. My current size is 225/75 R16 on a 34 Sprinter TT.
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08-18-2015, 06:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasKevin
All you people keep replacing ST tires with ST tires. It doesn't matter which ST you purchase, they are all made overseas and are very poor quality. I have tried every ST manufacturer there is in all my 24 years of RVing and there is not one, repeat not one that is better than the other. I have gotten so good at changing blowouts that I have been asked to be a tire changer for NASCAR. All kidding aside, I switched on the last 2 campers I have owned to LT 10 ply tires and have had the best luck. I have been running the BF Goodrich Commercial TA on my campers and I am very pleased. I experienced 12 blowouts with ST tires and since I have changed to LT tires, 0 tire issues. I store my RV indoors on concrete out of the sun and maintain proper air pressure in them all the time, 80 psi. My current size is 225/75 R16 on a 34 Sprinter TT.
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Just a heads up on your "awesome" BF Goodrich Commercial T/A's....... There's been a HUGE recall on them. May wanna look into that.
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08-18-2015, 07:15 AM
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There is no debate that some LT tires provide great service in "SOME" trailer applications and that there is a significant difference in quality between Power King, Tow Max, Green Belt and other "Chinese ST tires" when compared to Maxxis. Back in 1993, Goodyear had a recall on all their Marathon tires. The Goodyear dealer in Alexandria, LA told me that I'd be better served if I didn't replace my recalled Marathons with new Goodyear ST's. He suggested Maxxis and explained that they were "the Michelin of trailer tires". I put them (paid by Goodyear) on my Holiday Rambler and never had another problem. Since then, I've run them exclusively on all my flatbed trailers, car/tractor haulers and I've never had a problem. Later this year (or early next spring) I'll be replacing the current tires on my Cougar with Maxxis. I expect the same performance as I've received in the past with Maxxis ST radials. Others have reported similar success with Carlisle ST tires. I believe they are also "not made in China" ST radials.
I wouldn't lump all ST tires together. There are definitely some that perform significantly better than others. Also, realize that LT tires are not the answer for many RV'ers as they are no longer available in 14 or 15" LRE sizes and do not have sufficient load ratings even in the 16" sizes for some applications.
If you're satisfied with the performance you've received and feel they work for you, that's great. But remember that they aren't an option for many of us (because of size availability and load ratings). There are alternatives that provide the same "satisfaction level" in a much higher quality ST tire.
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08-18-2015, 08:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasKevin
All you people keep replacing ST tires with ST tires. It doesn't matter which ST you purchase, they are all made overseas and are very poor quality. I have tried every ST manufacturer there is in all my 24 years of RVing and there is not one, repeat not one that is better than the other.
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Kevin, have you ever seen the Sailun ST tires? IE These
They cost about 50% more than the upper end of typical ST tires (Currently around $130/each). They are 14-ply. G rated. Literally they weighed 61 lbs each, which is about double what my OEM tires weighed.
I generally agree with you on "other" ST tires. I've tried several on my smaller trailers. I usually go up 1 or 2 load ranges, but I have them arrive out of round, etc...
Try the Sailun's. I'd rather run these than LT tires.
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08-18-2015, 11:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcg9381
Kevin, have you ever seen the Sailun ST tires? IE These
They cost about 50% more than the upper end of typical ST tires (Currently around $130/each). They are 14-ply. G rated. Literally they weighed 61 lbs each, which is about double what my OEM tires weighed.
I generally agree with you on "other" ST tires. I've tried several on my smaller trailers. I usually go up 1 or 2 load ranges, but I have them arrive out of round, etc...
Try the Sailun's. I'd rather run these than LT tires.
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I purchased a set of these in May and have currently run them for 7000 miles. No issues at all. By the way, they are not ST, but LT rated. Speed rating of 75 mph unlike the ST of 65.
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08-18-2015, 12:13 PM
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I guess some people are just luckier than others. Been towing my RV's, car trailers, utility trailers, boat trailers, and atv trailers all around this country for 25 yrs with Carlisle tires and have yet to experience a flat tire. I suppose I would be on the LT bandwagon if I had changed 12 blowouts as well, but fortunately for me I always seem to get the only good set on the shelf....I will say that the current set of F rated Carlisles on the camper had to have one replaced because it took 4.25 ozs to balance it, the new one that came in only needed 1.75. The max weight needed for any of them was 2.75 ozs. If you have a quality wheel, you can tell a lot about the tire going on it by how much weight is required to balance it.
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08-18-2015, 12:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jhudson
I purchased a set of these in May and have currently run them for 7000 miles. No issues at all. By the way, they are not ST, but LT rated. Speed rating of 75 mph unlike the ST of 65.
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On my trip to Winnipeg, my Towmax's blew out on me, prior to the trip I almost pulled the trigger on a set of Sailun's, hind sight...
What I gather from the tire dealers in ND was that the Sailun's were a LT, which a import tax was added, no dealers had the
sailun's since the company was rebadging them as ST's to avoid the import tax. Whether that's true or not I'm not sure.
And there is also a difference if the LT is prior or after the name, something else I learned...
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09-06-2015, 08:50 PM
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We had 4 year old tow max tires on our rig. Very well maintained with TPMS on every tire....We had stopped for about an hour at a Camping World before heading out again. About 20 minutes into our trip one of the blow max tires let go. The tread delaminated and tore the J wrap, damaged the slide. The TPMS still showed 90 PSI when I pulled over. What junk tires they are. I kick myself for not replacing them sooner but I though I could get one more season out of them. We have Michelin XPS ribs on order. That 5er isn't moving until we get the new tires on them. There are no ST tires made in North America. Best advise would be for those that can replace your china bombs with LTs.
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09-06-2015, 09:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shov
On my trip to Winnipeg, my Towmax's blew out on me, prior to the trip I almost pulled the trigger on a set of Sailun's, hind sight...
What I gather from the tire dealers in ND was that the Sailun's were a LT, which a import tax was added, no dealers had the
sailun's since the company was rebadging them as ST's to avoid the import tax. Whether that's true or not I'm not sure.
And there is also a difference if the LT is prior or after the name, something else I learned...
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They are still manufacturing both tires. The LT is rated at 3750# @ 110 psi and the ST is rated at 4080# @ 110 psi. Both have a speed rating of 75 MPH.
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09-07-2015, 01:53 AM
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Thank you CW
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