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03-28-2018, 02:01 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Mercer
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285SBH Leaky Blackwater drain valve
I have a 2017 Keystone Laredo 285SBH that I purchased in August 2017.
It is still under warranty.
I bought it new and the first time I took it out was a family trip to Florida.
When we got to the campground and I went to hook up the drain hose, as I was removing the cap off the drain pipe, ****ty-pee water was coming out. I had to use a bucket to slowly drain the entire blackwater tank filled with sewage from 5 people, over three days of traveling. It was awful!
I looked online and found a twist on valve for the end of the drain pipe and purchased it locally (to save our vacation). Everytime that I drain the tank, the whole pipe is filled because of the leaky blackwater valve. I am using the RV now in Georgia for work but will be heading home soon. I plan to take it to a dealer to fix the valve. To me it feels like it does not fully close when you push the cable-operated valve to the shut position.
Has anyone heard of such a problem?
I am hoping that it will be covered under warranty. I feel that a dealer would come up with a reason why it wouldn't be covered, to save face or financial benefits with the manufacturer.
Any thoughts or help would be much appreciated.
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03-28-2018, 02:05 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: SE Michigan
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You probably have a faulty black tank gate valve. As a way to prevent the unwanted surprise next time a valve fails, try installing one of these onto the end of your 3" outlet waste pipe. It's worth the small investment as a backup.
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03-28-2018, 02:10 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Newport News, VA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by busterbrown
You probably have a faulty black tank gate valve. As a way to prevent the unwanted surprise next time a valve fails, try installing one of these onto the end of your 3" outlet waste pipe. It's worth the small investment as a backup.
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Ummmm, he already said he has one of those.
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03-28-2018, 02:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Central San Joaguin Valley, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erik-the-red
I have a 2017 Keystone Laredo 285SBH that I purchased in August 2017.
It is still under warranty.
I bought it new and the first time I took it out was a family trip to Florida.
When we got to the campground and I went to hook up the drain hose, as I was removing the cap off the drain pipe, ****ty-pee water was coming out. I had to use a bucket to slowly drain the entire blackwater tank filled with sewage from 5 people, over three days of traveling. It was awful!
I looked online and found a twist on valve for the end of the drain pipe and purchased it locally (to save our vacation). Everytime that I drain the tank, the whole pipe is filled because of the leaky blackwater valve. I am using the RV now in Georgia for work but will be heading home soon. I plan to take it to a dealer to fix the valve. To me it feels like it does not fully close when you push the cable-operated valve to the shut position.
Has anyone heard of such a problem?
I am hoping that it will be covered under warranty. I feel that a dealer would come up with a reason why it wouldn't be covered, to save face or financial benefits with the manufacturer.
Any thoughts or help would be much appreciated.
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Are your valves cable operated?
On our trailer, the galley tank valve acted the same way. When pushed in, it felt mushy or springy.
I cut an access door in the CoroPlast and removed the valve from the tank.
Turns out that the cable had been routed in such a tight arc that it was in a bind. Almost kinked. Straightened the kinked cable and then installed the valve 180* from how it was installed. Valve works just fine now.
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03-28-2018, 02:27 PM
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Check the gasket in the gate also. Sometimes they colme dislodged and need reseating.
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03-28-2018, 02:37 PM
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And or there is something blocking the valve from completely closing. To check that at home after the tank got emptied, fill with clean water. Pull and push close the valve a bunch of times. New tanks can as mind did have plastic or other stuff from the build in them or TP or other stuff jammed the valve. This trailer I filled every tank at home before going anywhere, opened/ closed the valves just to make sure and watched the stuff come out with the water.
What you got is good, I have one to, sometime in the future you may forget to close a valve and that small opening leaking can be closed without getting covered in poop. Do not ask how I know.
Yes the valves can go bad or be defective but, I bet the valve is jammed and will not close. It happens a lot, mainly the black tank due to the stuff that gets put into it.
In case you do not warn the family, this is not a home toilet. Only use RV TP, and try not to over do it without lots of water.
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04-06-2018, 12:21 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Bitterroot Valley
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I had the same problem, mine was used and the person I bought it from.....FORGOT to mention it. So, when I opened the cap the first time, I got all of their stored up black tank surprises! It turned out (probably the whole time they owned it) some of the electrical wiring was hanging down on the handle and wedging itself in to block the handle from closing all the way. I moved the wiring out of the way and secured it to the trailer frame so it wont be in the way again.
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04-09-2018, 06:36 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: INYOKERN
Posts: 2
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Keystone junk
I HAVE A KEYSTONE 2013 RAPTOR VOLICITY, I DONT KNOW IF YOUR RV IS BUILT THE SAME, BUT THE BIG PROBLEM IS THE CABLE GOING TO THE DUMP VALVES.
IN MY RV THE CABLES ARE ALMOST TWICE AS LONG THEY SHOULD BE AND LOOP UP INSIDE THE TRAILER, I ASSUME KEYSTONE USES ONE SIZE TO SAVE MONEY AND IN TIME THEY WILL GET WORSE. THE FIX IS TO SHORTEN THE CABLES, BUT THIS REQUIRES A LOT OF WORK, AND IF YOU REMOVE THE CARDBOARD BOTTOM YOU WILL REALLY SEE KEYSTONES CHEEP WORK ON EVERYTHING.
ONE OTHER THING , I OWNED A LOT OF TRAILERS AND HAVE NOT HAD A PROBLEM GETTING PLUMING AND ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS, KEYSTONE WILL NOT GIVE THE DIAGRAMS TO YOU, THEY JUST SAY BRING IT IN $$$$$$$ they don't want you to be looking around and seeing how cheep there made.
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