Wheel Weight Rating -vs- Axle Weight Rating

[Bill-2020]

I've done some searching and I don't see any previous Q&As to this;

My Dexter axles are rated at 3500 lbs per the label on them. My aluminum wheels are rated at 2200 lbs each. The wheels are rated well over what the axles are; 8800 lbs for the wheels and 7000 lbs for both axles. Would I still be OK with different wheels that are rated for 1900 lbs? But if the RVIA 10% plays a part in this, I'm short on capacity by 100 pounds. Right? Or, so long as I'm above the axle rating, I'm good?

Seems to me that Keystone picked out a set of wheels that they felt looked good, and they happened to be rated at 2200 pounds. Personally, the wheels are ugly, and I have my eyes on a different set. I'd like to swap them out with the new tires already coming if I'm within the limits.

[flybouy]

Look at tire/weight placard on the trailer. The wheels should be rated to minimally carry the load and the psi rating of the tires size on that placard. Going to a wheel that carries a greater weight is not an issue.

[Bill-2020]

Originally Posted by flybouy

Look at tire/weight placard on the trailer. The wheels should be rated to minimally carry the load and the psi rating of the tires size on that placard. Going to a wheel that carries a greater weight is not an issue.

I’m looking at going down to lower capacity, but within the load limits of the trailer. I just didn’t know if the 10% RVIA fell into this.

[Bill-2020]

Marshall- the wheels on the riding mower we both have are better looking than what came on my Passport!

[flybouy]

Originally Posted by Bill-2020

I’m looking at going down to lower capacity, but within the load limits of the trailer. I just didn’t know if the 10% RVIA fell into this.

Within what load limits? What the placard on the trailer states or are you going by the axle rating?

The looks is a personal choice, my riding mower ain't very fancy LOL.

[Bill-2020]

Originally Posted by flybouy

Within what load limits? What the placard on the trailer states or are you going by the axle rating?

The looks is a personal choice, my riding mower ain't very fancy LOL.

GVWR is 5400, but I was basing my concern off of the axle ratings of 3500 each.

No fancy mower here either (we have the same), but these trailer wheels are just too much. They belong on a fully “blinged out” speedboat and matching trailer, not a camper.

[flybouy]

The label designating tire size and inflation is the determining factor. As your unit is a 2720 that tire designation would include the RIVA 10%. So if for example that sticker lists ST 225/75r 15 load range D @ 65 psi then the tire is rated at 1,220 lbs. Same size load range E then at 80 psi it's rated for 1,520 lbs. So as long as the wheel is rated for the designated tire and psi rating or more your good to go.

[BrooksFam]

Originally Posted by Bill-2020

…………………. but these trailer wheels are just too much. They belong on a fully “blinged out” speedboat and matching trailer, not a camper.

Wow, them must be sum fancy weels…………..

[Bill-2020]

Originally Posted by flybouy

The label designating tire size and inflation is the determining factor. As your unit is a 2720 that tire designation would include the RIVA 10%. So if for example that sticker lists ST 225/75r 15 load range D @ 65 psi then the tire is rated at 1,220 lbs. Same size load range E then at 80 psi it's rated for 1,520 lbs. So as long as the wheel is rated for the designated tire and psi rating or more your good to go.

I thought the RIVA would come into play. Thanks for the verification. Tires are 205/75R14, D rated and 65psi. Current wheels are rated for 75psi, I'm now looking for the psi rating on the ones I'm eyeing... Thanks for the response.

Anyone interested in a nearly new but ugly (IMO) set of 14" aluminum wheels? I'll toss in the china bombs for free... so long as you only use them on the yard wagon.

[Bill-2020]

Originally Posted by BrooksFam

Wow, them must be sum fancy weels…………..

To me... just not the right look.

[flybouy]

Originally Posted by Bill-2020

To me... just not the right look.

I could put those on my riding mower but I don't have the room to install the loud stereo system.

[Javi]

If it was strictly up to me, I'd be running black steel rims..

[BrooksFam]

Guess I have some ugly wheels also...........

[Bill-2020]

Originally Posted by BrooksFam

Guess I have some ugly wheels also...........

Close - I like yours better. Spokes are a bit different. Something about the "V" shape that just doesn't sit well with me on mine. And ya know, the wheels are covered most of the time anyway. But I know what lurks under those tire covers. (and to think I'm covering china bombs to keep the sun off them for the time being! )

[sourdough]

Originally Posted by flybouy

The label designating tire size and inflation is the determining factor. As your unit is a 2720 that tire designation would include the RIVA 10%. So if for example that sticker lists ST 225/75r 15 load range D @ 65 psi then the tire is rated at 1,220 lbs. Same size load range E then at 80 psi it's rated for 1,520 lbs. So as long as the wheel is rated for the designated tire and psi rating or more your good to go.

Isn't that 2540 lrd and 2830 lre? That's what they were on my last trailer....

[CWtheMan]

Originally Posted by Bill-2020

I've done some searching and I don't see any previous Q&As to this;

My Dexter axles are rated at 3500 lbs per the label on them. My aluminum wheels are rated at 2200 lbs each. The wheels are rated well over what the axles are; 8800 lbs for the wheels and 7000 lbs for both axles. Would I still be OK with different wheels that are rated for 1900 lbs? But if the RVIA 10% plays a part in this, I'm short on capacity by 100 pounds. Right? Or, so long as I'm above the axle rating, I'm good?

Seems to me that Keystone picked out a set of wheels that they felt looked good, and they happened to be rated at 2200 pounds. Personally, the wheels are ugly, and I have my eyes on a different set. I'd like to swap them out with the new tires already coming if I'm within the limits.

Without knowing the certified GAWRs as listed on the vehicle certification label, answers here would be purely speculations. In past history, Keystone would never have set your GAWRs above 2800#. Doing so would be an invitation to exceed GVWR.

Vehicle wheel and tire minimal standards for your trailer were set by Keystone and are displayed on the federal certification label. Tire industry standards (USTMA) will not support anything less than those minimums when selecting replacements.

The RVIA 10% load capacity reserves recommendation is just that, a recommendation. When applied to your trailer it only applies to GAWR certifications found on the labeling.

[Bill-2020]

Originally Posted by CWtheMan

Without knowing the certified GAWRs as listed on the vehicle certification label, answers here would be purely speculations. In past history, Keystone would never have set your GAWRs above 2800#. Doing so would be an invitation to exceed GVWR.

Vehicle wheel and tire minimal standards for your trailer were set by Keystone and are displayed on the federal certification label. Tire industry standards (USTMA) will not support anything less than those minimums when selecting replacements.

The RVIA 10% load capacity reserves recommendation is just that, a recommendation. When applied to your trailer it only applies to GAWR certifications found on the labeling.

Here...

GVWR 5400
GAWR 3500

So why do you think Keystone set the GAWR at 3500#, above the 2800# you mention?

[bobbecky]

Maybe just get a can of black spray paint and cover the shiny part of the wheels so they don't stand out.

[CWtheMan]

Originally Posted by Bill-2020

Here...

GVWR 5400
GAWR 3500

So why do you think Keystone set the GAWR at 3500#, above the 2800# you mention?

Maybe it's a Keystone policy change. Or a typing error. In the past Keystone has always set their axle GAWRs very close to the maximum load that can be carried. It discourages consumers from overloading the vehicle.

Look at it mathematically, 3500# axles are 1600# over GVWR.

The 3500# GAWRs also forces Keystone to use OE tires with more load capacity than would be necessary if the GAWRs were set at 2800#.

[Bill-2020]

More details come to light as I dig further. The 1900# wheels that I have my eye on are rated for 65psi, where the current wheels I have are rated for 75psi (2200#). I'd rather have a 75psi wheel.

I called the manufacturer of the wheels I'm eyeing and they state that the newer industry standards of higher rated tires that manufactures are using dictate that wheels need to be rated higher, therefore updates have been made to some wheel models. Obviously my wheels are one of the models that was updated, but they are apparently waaay above what's needed for my trailer.

So, in order for me to get the higher PSI wheel, I have to either pick out a 14" wheel at 2200# (of which none really do it for me) or change to a 15" wheel which has a 2150# rating at 80psi. But then I have to change the spare as well.... and of course then it wouldn't match the certification label on the camper at that point.

What was that about a spray paint can?