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Old 11-08-2015, 05:43 PM   #21
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There is only one "book rate" for any service job. If the shop your working in pays "flat rate", then you do whatever it takes to complete the task in the allotted time. Go over and the labor is out of the techs pocket.

I am in a flat rate shop now. Work "pays" X hours, I finish under and I get the full pay. Finish over and the difference is minimum wage.
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Old 11-08-2015, 05:43 PM   #22
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A job pays what a job pays, you can't add an extra $500 to pull the body, you pull the body to make it quicker/easier.
I know, I turned wrenches for a few years as well. My point was that a job that requires 4-5 hours of labor to remove a cab just to get to the engine vs a job that is 4 hour less labor by being able to do the work without removing the cab is money that is better in my pocket. I've also been on the side where the job pays 30 minutes per the book and you spend half of that time just trying to find the part that is buried under a myriad of "stuff".
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Old 11-08-2015, 05:45 PM   #23
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There is only one "book rate" for any service job. If the shop your working in pays "flat rate", then you do whatever it takes to complete the task in the allotted time. Go over and the labor is out of the techs pocket.

I am in a flat rate shop now. Work "pays" X hours, I finish under and I get the full pay. Finish over and the difference is minimum wage.
The shop I worked in was flat rate as well. I loved alignments and front CV/half shafts, hated anything that involved exhaust.
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Old 11-08-2015, 05:45 PM   #24
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The 2 piece plugs were used in certain years of Ford trucks with gas engine. The plug was "pressed" into a metal cup that formed the ground for the center electrode. Problem was when you started to take the plug out, the upper portion separated from the cup that stuck in the head from carbon buildup. I have two different sets of removers.

Ok, I see what you are saying, a little misunderstanding as I have been a Ford tech since 82. 3 piece if you count the insulator. The trick to getting these plugs out is an impact gun, it works with little breakage.
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Old 11-08-2015, 05:48 PM   #25
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My trick is to avoid them LOL
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Old 11-08-2015, 06:06 PM   #26
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I know, I turned wrenches for a few years as well. My point was that a job that requires 4-5 hours of labor to remove a cab just to get to the engine vs a job that is 4 hour less labor by being able to do the work without removing the cab is money that is better in my pocket. I've also been on the side where the job pays 30 minutes per the book and you spend half of that time just trying to find the part that is buried under a myriad of "stuff".
If it's required, it's coming off, it's part of the job.

As for the 30 minute job, yes, you might lose on the first time, but the second time, you break even, third time you're making money
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Old 11-09-2015, 11:11 AM   #27
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If it's required, it's coming off, it's part of the job.

As for the 30 minute job, yes, you might lose on the first time, but the second time, you break even, third time you're making money
Amazing all the little tricks you learn by doing the same job 3 or 4 times. When in high school had to replace the Chevy Powerglide transmission in my car. Since they used the same transmission for many years, like from 1955 to 1973?, you could find a used one at a junk yard for about $35. Had to change mine twice, and ended up changing out about 5 more for friends, making about $100 for 2 hours of work. Good pay back then for a high school kid.
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Old 11-09-2015, 09:46 PM   #28
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What interval was he using on the oil change?

Miles on the engine?
I was curious as well... did not see the answer to the question!
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Old 11-10-2015, 07:33 AM   #29
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CHANGE YOUR OIL OFTEN AND USE GOOD QUALITY OIL! Been using synthetic oil and i change it every 5k. in my Dodge, Mercedes blue tec diesel and my two Saabs no sludge! my 03 Saab made contact with a muffler sliding along I95 at 80mph! blew the heck out of the pan!. I had a good chance to see what was going on after 150k on the motor. all thebearings were in great shape no sludge at the pick up tube and the cooling jets in the conecting rods that are prone to plugging up on a Saab were clean! So yes you can pay me now or.....
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I was curious as well... did not see the answer to the question!
looking at the badging it appears to be an 08-10 with the 6.4, I would hope at least 150k miles.

it really does suck that some people do minimal if any service on their vehicle, because when you buy used it is a guessing game which one your getting.
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Old 11-12-2015, 04:38 PM   #31
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Just changed the water pump on my Cummins. It took longer to flush the system than it did to change the pump, and three gallons of coolant was more expensive than the simple pump. I love simple.

Glad it wasn't a PS or a Duramax. Since I do my own work (if I can), I'm not into removing the cab. 👎
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looking at the badging it appears to be an 08-10 with the 6.4, I would hope at least 150k miles.

it really does suck that some people do minimal if any service on their vehicle, because when you buy used it is a guessing game which one your getting.

I don't like the guessing game when it comes to my trucks. It will cost more $$$ with a new truck but I know what I start with and what I have through the time of my ownership.
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