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06-19-2015, 05:13 AM
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Had the horse, bought a cart.
Prior to buying our new to us 2010 Springdale 25 rks, my tow vehicle was and still is a 2010 Chevy Silverado 1500. My wife told me, as we were looking at trailers, that we were going to keep within the range of the truck so we wouldn't have to buy a different one to tow our trailer. The sticker in my door jam shows a max tow rate of 6900 lbs. We have only taken the trailer out once since the purchase and it tows OK but struggles up any significant grades.
I've been looking at used 3/4 ton trucks around the value as my truck and have come across a 2006 Ford F250 powerstroke and a 2007 GMC duramax that are within $5K of each other. I've also found a few gas powered trucks a little newer. All have less than 90K miles. I think any of them would be an improvement over my current vehicle. Getting the wife on board is going to be the hard part.
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06-19-2015, 05:57 AM
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NOOOOoooooo...Just say No to any ford 6.0 diesel unless you are prepared to put some money into it. Even though 06 was the best year for the 6.0 they have many issues. 08-10 ford used a 6.4 much better, but had emissions that caused poor fuel mileage. 2011 up 6.7 was he first in house diesel for ford and has had very little trouble.
With that said 07 was one of the best years for the Dmax, pre emission, im a ford guy and I would choose that over the ford.
Now, are you certain your truck wont tow that 25' trailer? Also another option would be a 3/4 ton gasser, most definitely most of them are more than capable of towing such size trailer.
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06-19-2015, 06:02 AM
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I would go with the GMC if I had to pick between the two. The 6.0 is a good motor after you drop some money into it and fix all the problems. the 07 duramax is a great motor I think its the LMM very few problems and tons of power. no emissions if you are into cutting that stuff out.
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06-19-2015, 07:04 AM
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And then there is the Cummins. Supposedly half the moving parts and twice the bearing surface area of the Powerstroke (and probably the Duramax). Whatever you get, don't gamble on the Ford 6.0.
With reference to negotiating with the wife, you're on your own.
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06-19-2015, 09:24 AM
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yes, there is the cummins, great engine, but it has its own issues also.
The newer model trucks are all good vehicles I think it really comes down to personal preference and your wallet.
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06-19-2015, 12:21 PM
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For not a whole lot of money I can get the rear gear changed to a 4:11. I've already added airbags and brake controller. The truck only has 42k miles. We are planning another trip soon that will be a good test. I'll change the gear and see how it goes. No sense having to duke it out with the wife if I don't have to.
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06-19-2015, 09:42 PM
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If you can get that 07' Duramax for about the same as you can get out of your 10', I would do that in a heartbeat! Is the 07' the Classic body style? If it is, then it has the LBZ engine, which doesn't have a DPF. If it's the newer body style 07', then it will have a DPF. That may cause some problems for you, but you can delete it.
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06-21-2015, 05:03 AM
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If you need help deciding on a 6.0, start here. http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/forum107/ Plenty of happy and friendly 6.0 owners willing to answer any questions. I would not hesitate to buy another, best bang for the buck if you find one that has been maintained.
Regardless of what brand you buy, 10 year old trucks will require maintenance, if you can't do it yourself the dollars can add up pretty quick.
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06-21-2015, 05:27 AM
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I appreciate everyone's input. I keep going back and forth. I know what I have in my truck but no matter what I do to it, it's still a half ton. My wife doesn't like the noise the diesel trucks make. There are a few newer gasser 3/4 tons available also in my price range. I like not making payments, that's why we bought the used Springdale. I'm pretty handy and do my own repairs. On the newer vehicles, other than oil and filter changes, there isn't too much the average guy can do anymore.
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06-29-2015, 02:30 PM
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Tundra, Tundra, Tundra ! all the truck you need for towing under 10,000 lbs.
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06-29-2015, 03:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joepremier26'
Tundra, Tundra, Tundra ! all the truck you need for towing under 10,000 lbs.
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Unless you prefer Chevrolet, GMC, Ford or Ram, then you'd have a problem with a Toyota no matter how much the trailer weighs.
There's a HECK OF A LOT more to determining an appropriate tow vehicle that goes along with trailer weight (under 10,000 lbs). Consider payload of truck and trailer, passenger weight, cargo weight, actual trailer tongue weight, front and rear axle ratings, tires, hitch rating, just to name a few.
ADDED: Oh, I also forgot to mention availability of service. In some places, the nearest Toyota dealership is 100+ miles away while Chevrolet, GMC, Ford and Ram dealerships are local. There's a lot more than the emblem to consider !!!!!
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06-29-2015, 03:27 PM
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Iam very happy with my f150 ecoboost max tow pulling our 30 fter, max weight 7700.
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06-30-2015, 04:55 AM
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I have found a couple '05 duramax's with less than 80k miles that I plan to look at in the next few days. I know I could get by with the 1/2 ton but we do plan to do some long distance traveling in the near future and I will feel a lot better knowing I have more tow vehicle than I need.
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06-30-2015, 09:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deltadude
I have found a couple '05 duramax's with less than 80k miles that I plan to look at in the next few days. I know I could get by with the 1/2 ton but we do plan to do some long distance traveling in the near future and I will feel a lot better knowing I have more tow vehicle than I need.
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The 05's MAY have an overheating problem. Not all did and if you are under 10K it should be fine. Otherwise, good choice. Much easier to do injectors than on my 01.
If you come across one, the 06 and 07 (LBZ) are the best of the bunch.
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07-05-2015, 05:36 AM
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I'll be picking up an '07 Chevy crewcab Duramax this Monday. It has 86000 miles. The current owner put 70k of those miles on it. He didn't tow with it. He has all the service records. We will be going on a couple hundred mile trip next Thursday. I'll be curious how much better the towing experience will be.
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07-09-2015, 08:46 AM
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Here is a tidbit I can offer from firsthand experience.
Note: this is NOT a Ford vs. GM vs. Dodge battle! Just passing along information.
I worked for Chrysler years back. We lent a fleet of Ram, 3500 Cummins diesels to a rodeo outfit who put a ton of miles on their trucks. The stipulation was that the trucks were maintained by the book, with proof of each item. They used these trucks for a few years and logged over 1 million miles on at least two of the trucks that I can recall, close to on the rest. We got the trucks back for evaluation. The body and interior were pretty beat up. The engines ran to near perfection. We took each motor out and tore them all down for evaluation. All of the surfaces that can wear (engine rotating assembly parts) were meticulously measured and recorded. In every Cummins motor, there was minimal wear and all of the surfaces were within acceptable tolerances.
Keep in mind, these were not used lightly. We are talking 10 to 15,000lbs. of horse trailers here. Through the west in dry, high heat, through mountains.
I am sure that people who work at GM or Ford have similar stories. Like I said, this is NOT a argument on what manufacture is the best. I can say however from personal experience that the Cummins motors are pretty darn reliable.
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07-09-2015, 08:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deltadude
I'll be picking up an '07 Chevy crewcab Duramax this Monday. It has 86000 miles. The current owner put 70k of those miles on it. He didn't tow with it. He has all the service records. We will be going on a couple hundred mile trip next Thursday. I'll be curious how much better the towing experience will be.
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Congrats. The best of the bunch and I'm sure it will serve you well.
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07-09-2015, 09:42 AM
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Minus studding, a 6.0 is relatively cheap to get the bad stuff deleted/replaced and dependable (you can get the parts for an EGR Delete kit including a new oil cooler for $150 these days). Love, love, love my 2006, it is like driving a 8800# 6 wheel sports car!
Edit...didn't read the second page...congrats on the new truck!
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07-09-2015, 08:07 PM
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Great choice, once you tow with a Duramax you'll never look back. It'll also run quitter than gas. Congratulations!!
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07-13-2015, 05:08 AM
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What a nice truck. Even my wife commented on how easily it towed our trailer. I was really impressed with the transmission. I rarely used the brakes on the downhills. Some of the hills had a truck mph of 35 so it was a fairly steep grade. Although I didn't calculate my mileage, using the cruise control set at 60, I showed 14 mpg.
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