Keystone Passport 221BH

[charlescho]

Hi, I'm new here. Taking delivery of a 2022 Passport 221BH at the end of February. I have a few questions at the moment:

1) I noticed the '21 model had an inverter (from what I could see from Youtube walkthrough videos), but was removed from the '22 model. Has anyone put in an inverter on their '22 trailer? There is a prepped space for an inverter. I know keystone is trying to sell theirs, but I'm wondering if I could get an inverter of my choosing.

2) Why is there two level monitors for each of the black and gray tanks?

3) Is there a dedicated thread for this trailer on this forum?

[JRTJH]

There should be only one level gauge for each gray tank and one for the black tank. Some trailer lines use a "generic panel" that includes switch plates and level gauges that are not used in every trailer floorplan. You will also find 2 or 3 "slide switch holes" in the panel and the trailer may have only one slide. It's a "generic panel" not specific to any specific trailer.

There is no "model specific forum thread" on any trailer model that I'm aware of.

I think you're confusing some of the "standard features" and "optional features" in the 2021 model year with the "CHANGED FEATURES" in the 2022 model year.

You can download the 2021 Passport brochure here: https://keystone-rv-dealer-app.cdn.p..._Dec20_WEB.pdf

Take a look at page 06 in the 2021 brochure and you'll see the "available solar components" as well as the "standard OTG installation"...

Every 2021 was built with a "standard OTG package" consisting of "quality ZAMP solar prep with outlets for solar panels on the roof and on side of the coash". THEN, there was an "optional solar package" that could be ordered (but not included on EVERY trailer) that consisted of a 170 watt solar panel, 30 amp 5 stage charge controller with omni-mounting feet.

Without knowing for sure, I'd suspect that the video you say on the internet was a trailer with OPTIONAL features. I'd guess that about half the trailers had the optional equipment, that one did, many/most didn't....

In 2022, Keystone reconfigured the "standard OTG package" by eliminating the ZAMP solar prep package and reconfiguring all Keystone products with the "Keystone exclusive" SolarFlex 200 package. This year, like last year, an "upgrade solar system package" is available, at extra cost. The standard does not include an inverter, the "upgrades" include additional components, the component inventory goes up as the cost goes up....

You get "what you pay for" in optional equipment.

You can read about the "Keystone SolarFlex packages" here: https://www.keystonerv.com/solarflex_landing I'd suspect your new trailer will be equipped with the SolarFlex 200 system unless you and the dealership "opted for the extra cost packages". You'd likely know if you paid extra for options.....

Here's the part of page 6 in the 2021 brochure showing the standard/optional equipment in the "no longer offered OTG packages

[Paul2]

We bought the same model 2022 221BH. Ours has 400i solar from the factory. It has 2000W inverter Xantrex freedom X .The brochure says it has 60 gallon gray and 30 gallon black. We have a dump valve behind the wheels which looks like black tank. There is another in front of the wheels for gray. I read on this forum some had issues where gray has 2 30 gallon tanks but one didn't have a dump valve. Do you guys have 1 gray dump valve or 2?

[NH_Bulldog]

I can’t speak to the solar, but the switch panel is generic. Mine has test buttons and lights for two black tanks, two grey tanks and two slideouts. I have one each of those. Go figure.

[charlescho]

Originally Posted by Paul2

We bought the same model 2022 221BH. Ours has 400i solar from the factory. It has 2000W inverter Xantrex freedom X .The brochure says it has 60 gallon gray and 30 gallon black. We have a dump valve behind the wheels which looks like black tank. There is another in front of the wheels for gray. I read on this forum some had issues where gray has 2 30 gallon tanks but one didn't have a dump valve. Do you guys have 1 gray dump valve or 2?

I've picked up my 2022 model this week and I has 2 dump connections. The front one has 1 gray handle. The rear one has 2 handles, one gray, one black.

The delivery guy said that the rear one would flush the entire gray tank. I asked him what the front one was for. He said it was a redundant gray flush connection. And then later on inside the trailer, he said there's 2 gray tanks in the trailer, one for the kitchen, and one for the bathroom.

I was confused.

I interpret it as there are 2 gray tanks and each gets flushed by their respective flush connections.

Or I interpret it as there are 2 gray tanks.... and the front dump connection only dumps 1 of the gray tanks. And the rear dump connection flushes both of the gray tanks.

Guess I'll find out how it works on our first trip next month.

[flybouy]

Originally Posted by charlescho

I've picked up my 2022 model this week and I has 2 dump connections. The front one has 1 gray handle. The rear one has 2 handles, one gray, one black.

The delivery guy said that the rear one would flush the entire gray tank. I asked him what the front one was for. He said it was a redundant gray flush connection. And then later on inside the trailer, he said there's 2 gray tanks in the trailer, one for the kitchen, and one for the bathroom.

I was confused.

I interpret it as there are 2 gray tanks and each gets flushed by their respective flush connections.

Or I interpret it as there are 2 gray tanks.... and the front dump connection only dumps 1 of the gray tanks. And the rear dump connection flushes both of the gray tanks.

Guess I'll find out how it works on our first trip next month.

"Picked up" "delivery guy" ? Confusing. Did you conduct a PDI at the dealer? The holding tanks will only have one handle to operate one valve on each tank.

[charlescho]

Originally Posted by flybouy

"Picked up" "delivery guy" ? Confusing. Did you conduct a PDI at the dealer? The holding tanks will only have one handle to operate one valve on each tank.

Of course we did a PDI at the dealership. This is our 4th RV purchase. "Picked up" as in I went to the dealership to take delivery. And by "delivery guy" I meant the guy that did the walkthrough with us. The dealership has his job title as "Delivery Specialist" .

Anyway, here's a photo of my tank valves:

The rear valve handles are both black, yes, but there is a label for each of them as gray and black. The front handle is gray, and has no label.

But yeah, it makes sense what you're saying. Most likely, there are 2 individual gray tanks on this trailer.

[jxnbbl]

Last year, I went from a Bullet 273bh to a Bullet 330bh. Each have the same control panel for the tanks, but the 273bh had one gray and one black tank so the other tanks always will read empty.

The 330bh has a 'bath and a half'. The full bath and the kitchen sink deal with one black tank and the gray tank in the front of the unit. The rear black tank handles the 1/2 bath toilet and sink.

What I suggest since this is a new trailer, before using the toilets....just run the water for every component watching which outlet it comes from. Since I've found trailers full of surprises, when we got the 330 this is exactly what we did to ensure what was being told was correct. I additionally tested the tank flush capabilities of both black tanks as that was always a problem with the 273 from the time of delivery.

Jay

[charlescho]

Originally Posted by jxnbbl

Last year, I went from a Bullet 273bh to a Bullet 330bh. Each have the same control panel for the tanks, but the 273bh had one gray and one black tank so the other tanks always will read empty.

The 330bh has a 'bath and a half'. The full bath and the kitchen sink deal with one black tank and the gray tank in the front of the unit. The rear black tank handles the 1/2 bath toilet and sink.

What I suggest since this is a new trailer, before using the toilets....just run the water for every component watching which outlet it comes from. Since I've found trailers full of surprises, when we got the 330 this is exactly what we did to ensure what was being told was correct. I additionally tested the tank flush capabilities of both black tanks as that was always a problem with the 273 from the time of delivery.

Jay

Great suggestion. Will have to do now while everything is new.

[flybouy]

Originally Posted by charlescho

Of course we did a PDI at the dealership. This is our 4th RV purchase. "Picked up" as in I went to the dealership to take delivery. And by "delivery guy" I meant the guy that did the walkthrough with us. The dealership has his job title as "Delivery Specialist" .

Anyway, here's a photo of my tank valves:

The rear valve handles are both black, yes, but there is a label for each of them as gray and black. The front handle is gray, and has no label.

But yeah, it makes sense what you're saying. Most likely, there are 2 individual gray tanks on this trailer.

I've seen folks that have bought several trailers before and never knew what a PDI was, that's the reason for the question. Looking at your floor plan it's typical with a rear bath and a kitchen forward of the axles to have 2 gray tanks. The specs would confirm that as the tank CAPACITY is listed as 60 gal gray and 30 gal black. I suspect you have two 30 gal gray tanks.

A word of caution on the kitchen gray tank. The drain valve for that tank is exposed so in sub-freezing wearher it could freeze. Don't rely on the color of the dump valve handles or the stickers, they often aren't correct.

[sourdough]

Originally Posted by charlescho

Of course we did a PDI at the dealership. This is our 4th RV purchase. "Picked up" as in I went to the dealership to take delivery. And by "delivery guy" I meant the guy that did the walkthrough with us. The dealership has his job title as "Delivery Specialist" .

Anyway, here's a photo of my tank valves:

The rear valve handles are both black, yes, but there is a label for each of them as gray and black. The front handle is gray, and has no label.

But yeah, it makes sense what you're saying. Most likely, there are 2 individual gray tanks on this trailer.

Here is a link to your trailer;

https://www.keystonerv.com/product/p...oorplans/221BH

Note the specs; 30 gal. black, 60 gal. gray. You will have one black and 2 gray tanks. Look at your floorplan and location of dump valves; first pic of black and gray tank dump handles with the sewer dump will go to your bathroom. 2nd pic under trailer with dump valve in front of wheels, this will go to the galley gray tank.

[legger99]

I have a 2021 221BH trailer, probably going to be for sale in a couple months, but that's not related to the camper's quality.

Looks like you got the tanks cleared up, yes there are two grey and one black tanks. You have to dump them in separate locations. Kind of a pain when the slide is out. I had thought of piping the front tank to have it's outlet near the rear ones.

And the solar prep is the jacks on the roof (2 x SAE if I recall) with lines going down behind the black box inside the front compartment that continue on to the box outside on the tongue "A" frame by the battery where the disconnect switch is. I never took my black cover off, but I believe you would intercept the wires there and cut them in half (for the 12v side) to hook to a solar charge controller.

I also recall reading somewhere that a bedside, kitchen, and bathroom AC outlets are routed near this black cover to allow hookup to an inventor, but don't quote me on that.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask, I can't get any pictures would have to go off memory, as the camper in in storage till May.

[benjamin85]

legger99, I have a 2021 Tundra Limited CrewMax 4x4 with a tow capacity of 8800 lbs. We just purchased a Passport SL 221BH and keeping it in storage until May as well. Trying to gauge how the Tundra will do pulling it. What is your experience?

[charlescho]

Originally Posted by benjamin85

legger99, I have a 2021 Tundra Limited CrewMax 4x4 with a tow capacity of 8800 lbs. We just purchased a Passport SL 221BH and keeping it in storage until May as well. Trying to gauge how the Tundra will do pulling it. What is your experience?

My Tundra is a ‘17 CM TRD Off Road with a tow rating of 9800lbs.

I pulled an 18’ 3500lb and a 26’ 7700lb (dry) for 2 years each. The 7700lb definitely required an WDH. I pulled both trailers through the Rocky’s fine numerous times. Although driving up the mountain required going 50-55mph with the 26’. The 221BH is a few hundred lbs heavier so I believe the Tundra will be fine. (I took delivery of my ‘22 221BH in March and won’t be taking it out until next week.)

Your 8800lb rating would make me nervous. You’ll find that your tongue weight to be your weakest factor.

[benjamin85]

I thought the 221BH was Shipping Weight: 5,219 lb. and Carrying Capacity: 1,781 lb.?

Even at the max, it is only about 7000lbs.

[charlescho]

You’re right. I was going off memory with the weights for my previous trailer. Maybe I was remembering wet weights. Let me look them up and get back to you.

[charlescho]

All towed with my Tundra through the Rocky's, Yosemite, Yellowstone, Banff, Jasper, and basically all the main national parks in the west:

'16 Oasis 18BH - 3600lbs
Really easy to tow--like it wasn't even there. WDH not needed, but having it made the experience better.


'18 Avenger 26BH - 4900lbs
Definitely felt like you were towing. WDH required. Needed to slow down going up mountains especially in high elevation. I did not enjoy towing with the tanks full.


The 221BH is a couple hundred heavier than my last trailer. I was trying to find a lighter trailer but the 221BH had features the whole family was happy with. I would not feel comfortable anything heavier. When we were shopping, out of the few requests for the new trailer, I told my wife I would not go heavier.

[JRTJH]

Keep in mind that the maximum trailer rating for any vehicle is based on the tow vehicle "base weight" not GVWR. When you consider a trailer "maximum weight" you isolate the passenger load for the tow vehicle which can give you some "false information on how heavy a trailer the vehicle can tow". Buying a "BH model" suggest more than a couple in the cab of the tow vehicle. When you start adding children to the passenger load you also start adding their toys, bikes, trikes, electric ATV's etc to the bed of the truck since kids seldom are happy for a weekend without something to occupy their time....

Look "between the lines" of "max trailer rating" for a tow vehicle and GVWR for a trailer. It's usually the "cargo load in addition to the GCWR that makes simple math difficult to calculate performance or safety"....

[travelin texans]

Check the driver's door jamb for the yellow/white tag stating "occupants & cargo must not exceed XXXXlbs", that's the payload for THAT truck.
That payload is everyone/everything in/on that truck that didn't come from.the factory + the tongue weight & weight of the required WDH of the chosen rv.
The average tongue weight for any given TT is 13% of the GVWR posted on the driverside front corner of the rv. Most say "we travel light!", believe me you'll have that rv loaded to max gross weight much sooner than later. BTDT as have most rvers.
These are the number to use to calculate truck/rv compatibility, not rv dry weights nor truck tow ratings.
In the rv world the "max tow rating" is a meaningless number. Manufacturers arrived at that number towing low profile utility trailers with the loads over the axles, not rvs. Rv dry weights are with no batteries, no propane & no dealer added options, you'll NEVER tow it anywhere near the dry weight.
Yes! Your Tundra will "tow" that rv & more, hell a Tundra "pulled" the space shuttle, but it may or may not be able to "carry" the weight of that rv & didn't "carry" 1 ounce of that space shuttle.

[flybouy]

The "numbers" can get very confusing between the BS truck "tow rating" and the BS trailer "empty weight" and "tongue weight" they publish. The easiest, non-BS numbers will be found by taking a little time, a very little amout of money and drive over a scale. With Cat Scales (catscales.com) you can painlessly get the numbers.

Install the app if you choose, load up everything to go camping and stop by a scale. Follow the directions on the app and you'll get the real numbers. Compare those numbers to the truck's door sticker. If the GVWR or rear axle weight rating of the truck is greater than the truck's rating then you have a problem.