License Fees, what are yours like?

[Roscommon48]

it is what it is. some states tax the vehicles others have an income tax. you have to weigh everything. michigan is a one time price for trailers.


merry christmas

[gearhead]

Originally Posted by SummitPond

40-some-odd years ago when we first lived in Louisiana there was a sign on I-10 heading west into Texas that read something like "Welcome to the Land of Texas from the Land of Taxes". Sales tax and property taxes were low in LA, but they taxed the heck out of everything else. Not sure if the sign is there any more.

I haven't noticed that sign lately.
Texas doesn't have a state income state, but we have high property taxes. But our home values are relatively low. Sales tax varies a little by location but is about 8%, I think. All the states have to get enough revenue for their budget, but the priorities in the budget are different. Assuming you agree with how your taxes are being spent.

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by Ken / Claudia

Oregon is paid every 2 years. The state charges by length

10ft or shorter 81.
Each additional ft 6.75

My trailer is charged for 27 ft at 195.75 for 2 years.

I do not recall the percent, but around half goes to the state parks.

Ken I believe the split is 60% Parks 40% hwys.
OPRD gets very little money from the general fund. The parks three major source of funding are User fees, RV licensing fees, and Lottery dollars.

Our 32' 5er runs $229.50 which I believe is a fair fee.

[Ken / Claudia]

That sounds right, I know the funding sources you list are correct. My opinion is someone got the funding/licensing correct. You own a RV in Oregon- you pay for state parks. It does seem fair, like a user fee to the group who uses it.
So many funds collected by us goes into a black hole to fund things that have nothing to do with why they are collected. Case in point we started a special plate program to help fund needed projects. 1 of the first was a Salmon plate to get funds to help Salmon habitat. Many fisherman bought them and 5 years later in a DMV training class They told us not 1 penny went to the fish. It was delivered to another Oregon pocket through someone being able to move the funds. 25 years in state government that was not the only thing like that I learned.

[rjrelander]

Originally Posted by DDG

In Mn the tabs are about $30.00 a year on the camper. $540.00 on my truck but they take the value of the truck every year. DDG

Looks like we (MN) pay 30% of the equivalent commercial truck/tractor/semi tax based on GVWR for travel trailers. So an annual tax of anywhere from $7.50 (3001 to 4500 GVWR) to $31.50 (12001 to 15000 GVWR) for a typical travel trailer plus all the odds and ends of processing fees. Self-propelled RVs get hit for the full 100% tax base rate schedule when new or 75% if they are more than nine years old. Almost have to be an accountant to figure this stuff out.

[Cyberian]

MT RV trailers are one-time permanent plates. $92 if under 16 feet, $172 if over 16 feet

Light Trucks can vary slightly depending on the county you register in. I know a new 2018 Ram 2500 purchased in early 2019 started with the State base fees of $314.50 and Yellowstone County option tax bumped it up to total a little over $500.

County option tax is based on a % of MSRP and I'm kind of eating it a bit on that because I got a screaming deal on the truck and the annual depreciated % won't match what I really paid for a few years

Motor homes of any make/model/class are flat rate and a brand new rig from a MiniWinnie to a monster Tiffin will set you back $303.10 for the first year including the plates. This is probably why you notice so many land yachts with MT plates...

[German Shepherd Guy]

Well it would seem that Colorado is on the high side here from this small survey. Also seems like, in general, it is more expensive in the west. Montana excluded. My lic. plate fees also go to the roads (supposedly) but I will say that, in my opinion, the roads here in Colorado are sub par. That said there just are not that many of us (Coloradoians) and there are a lot of miles of mountain roads, so the money is spread thin. Merry Christmas everyone! Travel safe in the coming year.

[+Ruff Rider]

I have a 03 and pay $200. Truck is a 15 and ya $800 California need I say more because i got more. I have 4 cars also

[jsmith948]

Here in good ole' sunny California (currently 33 and cloudy) we paid $490 for our 2011 F-250 and $409 for our 2018 Laredo. Yeah, it's high, but, our real estate tax was $2000.00 this year for 2 1/2 acres with a barn and a 2000 sq ft house (thanks to proposition 13). So, I guess they get their money one way or the other?

[wiredgeorge]

Originally Posted by Mikendebbie

In TX - I have to hook up and drive 5 miles to the nearest dealer for an "inspection". No appointment necessary. I could not tell you exactly what they inspect - but the do a walk-around and eyeball the thing in the parking lot and say "That'll be $7.50". They log into the state registration system and tell it that mine has passed inspection.

I can then pay for my registration sticker online - it will be $133.75, good for a year on the RV. My truck is a 2019 the inspection sticker that came on it is good for 2 years, so it will not be due until Feb 2021. No idea how much it will be, but probably $150 or so plus the cost of an inspection ($20 I think??).

Since 2017 when Gov. Abbot signed a bill moving the weight of a trailer from 4500 to 7500 lbs before it needed inspection. Somehow the state determines the weight administratively and my fifth wheel falls a couple thousand pounds below 7500 lbs according to them. Ok by me. Can't recall actual amount I pay for a registration sticker but it is between $50-75 I believe. When you get a camper titled in Texas, there is a sales tax rate of 6.25 percent based on the SPV value (standard presumptive value). This value is based on a thing called the "Black Book" which is a compilation of the cost of sales of other campers of the same make/model. Guess this applies mostly to used and private sales where folks used to have the seller lie about how much the transaction actually went for to avoid sales tax. If you buy from a dealer you will pay tax on the actual amount or the amount the SPV comes up with; whatever is higher.

[firestation12]

Arizona...2019 Alpine 3700FL 42' length $1870 for 1 year. I bought used from an individual in Kalispel Montana January 2019. Had I purchased new from a dealer in Phoenix area, sales tax for city and state would have been added. Each year, the annual renewal decreases by about 7% from the $1870 (still a chunk of change).

[lindy46]

$29.00 a year for ALL vehicles in TN whether it's a car, truck, motorhome or travel trailer.

[bsmith0404]

As you can see, there are huge differences from state to state. CO, CA, NV, and AZ seem to be some of the most expensive. There are a few ways around expensive registration fees, many people set up an LLC in MY or SD. NM has a law, nicknamed snowbird law, that allows you to pay NM sales tax of 4% and register your RV in NM even with an address in another state. This only applies to RVs. NM registration ranges from $35 to about $100 depending on the RV. Most travel trailers are around $35, 5th wheels typically about $75, motorhomes around $100. I know many will debate the legality of this, but I can assure you it is 100% legal. Each state had to agree to it in order for NM to institute it. We use it almost daily at the dealership I work at since we are very close to TX and AZ. Every now and then we get a person make the trip down from CO as well.

[azchoco]

$300 is a steal! In Arizona tags for my 2016 Alpine are $1200!

[Phil Saran]

I also live in Colorado, Douglas County, I just got my renewal notice for tags on
my one year old 2019 Keystone Cougar 30 RLS. My tags are $500.00.

I paid about $37000.00 for mine in South Dakota, since all the dealers in Utah,
Colorado and New Mexico wanted $50K.

[bsmith0404]

Originally Posted by firestation12

Arizona...2019 Alpine 3700FL 42' length $1870 for 1 year. I bought used from an individual in Kalispel Montana January 2019. Had I purchased new from a dealer in Phoenix area, sales tax for city and state would have been added. Each year, the annual renewal decreases by about 7% from the $1870 (still a chunk of change).

You should have come to NM. Remember that on your next purchase.

[Ccrew]

Y'all should come to VA if you like taxes. Some of you are making out like bandits.

$4.13 per $100 of assessed value. They use NADA low retail for value. First year is based on sale price.

Then $25 annually for the tax sticker that they no longer supply.
Then Vehicle registration, was $47 for truck and $35 for trailer IIRC.

My truck and trailer combo books right at $100k, so I'll let you do the math. With our other two cars our property tax is like $3000 every 6 months. Then of course taxes on the house.....

[Hamlej]

We live in Arizona and the renewal for 1 year on our 2018 3820FK was $1364.00. That’s more than a 250k home here pays in yearly real estate tax. I will be looking into the NM snowbird law and also setting up domicile in SD. On top of this we paid $1400.00 for one year registration on our 2019 F350. Talk about being taken advantage of!

[JRTJH]

Something to consider for anyone who might be contemplating registering their travel trailer in a different state:

Many states require that all vehicles be registered and licensed in the "state of residence" within a specified time frame of moving into the state. So, if you register the tow vehicle in, say Vermont and then buy a fifth wheel and register it in New Mexico, once you tow it back to Vermont, you may face a requirement to re-register it and pay additional taxes/fees. Sure, you can "ignore the requirement" but when (if) something happens and it's involved in an accident, a theft or even a "neighbor's complaint that it's parked in the wrong location" and an LEO cites you or an insurance report is submitted, if the registration doesn't meet the state requirements of residency, then you may find that you face more "charges of tax evasion" than just "saving a few bucks by registering it where it's cheaper"...

In years past, with the lack of "computer data bases that span the nation", all you had to do was "pay with cash and there was no record to follow you".... That's no longer true. With today's data sharing, your local vehicle registration office can validate the current registration status based on your driver's license, for all vehicles that you have registered anywhere in the 50 states.... Yeah, "big brother is watching"....

So, while there are "some people who can legally qualify for residency, licensing and registration" in a state where they don't physically reside, it's not as easy as it was several years ago when tax information was "hand entered and checks were cashed by the tax collector and that info remained at the local level"....

Trust me when I say that your local law enforcement agency will be able to document your traffic stop in Las Angeles, probably before you even get back home to Colorado after your weekend trip to Disney Land and your speeding ticket on the freeway on your way to the airport in that rental car..... It's the same with vehicle registrations, licensing and residency. As long as nothing happens, you'll probably not see any problems, but...…. Just get stopped for a broken tail light and...…

As an example, don't have a Michigan driver's license and be operating a snowmobile registered in your name in Wisconsin without the proper Michigan permits/registrations being completed....

[bsmith0404]

Originally Posted by Hamlej

We live in Arizona and the renewal for 1 year on our 2018 3820FK was $1364.00. That’s more than a 250k home here pays in yearly real estate tax. I will be looking into the NM snowbird law and also setting up domicile in SD. On top of this we paid $1400.00 for one year registration on our 2019 F350. Talk about being taken advantage of!

Here’s a link to the law. Main requirements, must buy from a dealership in NM and take possession in NM. The portion that says must have Bona fide address refers to a residence in any state, does not need to be NM. Anyone can PM me with questions.

http://mvd.newmexico.gov/vehicle-procedures-manual.aspx?1f7fcb5548ee4e17a47ff4e27e571a01blogPo stId=6444a50a8f0f4ff09cdc3d2bcb3f621c