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03-07-2021, 04:17 PM
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2021 Fuzion 424 grey/black tank
Trying to figure out the four (4) pull handles for the gre/black tank. I have a one (1) grey and one (1) black pull handle in the water control compartment, one (1) grey pull handle before the triple axle, and one (1) black pull handle after the triple axle. The manual sucks, can't seem to find info online, the walk around/fimalary walk-thru at the dealer was very very lacking and barely informative....I knew more than the associate. Thanks in advance.
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03-07-2021, 04:22 PM
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2021 Fuzion 424 grey/black tank
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Originally Posted by cfickjr
Trying to figure out the four (4) pull handles for the gre/black tank. I have a one (1) grey and one (1) black pull handle in the water control compartment, one (1) grey pull handle before the triple axle, and one (1) black pull handle after the triple axle. The manual sucks, can't seem to find info online, the walk around/fimalary walk-thru at the dealer was very very lacking and barely informative....I knew more than the associate. Thanks in advance.
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Sounds like it’s setup as my 373 is. The front bathroom (sink and shower) exit to a grey tank handle up front, the master toilet leads to a the black tank handle up front. Then, the kitchen sink leads to the second grey tank. The back sink/toilet exit into the second black tank. This came from my Fuzion rep.
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03-07-2021, 04:24 PM
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That sounds correct RamminTime.
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03-07-2021, 04:35 PM
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Thank you. That is what we were thinking. So funny story (you may laugh), we were never told about the back tanks or that there was more than 1 black and 1 grey. We finally got the camper hooked up and set and figured we would test everything. We run all water faucets and flush toilets (we never use toilet before ensuring proper functioning). Found that the master shower is not draining. So I go to hook up the stinky slinky and open the cap and get drenched by water....again, no true black water. Rescue the cap and begin investigating, found the two pull handles along the frame. Not happy nor impressed with the dealership at all.
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03-07-2021, 05:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfickjr
Thank you. That is what we were thinking. So funny story (you may laugh), we were never told about the back tanks or that there was more than 1 black and 1 grey. We finally got the camper hooked up and set and figured we would test everything. We run all water faucets and flush toilets (we never use toilet before ensuring proper functioning). Found that the master shower is not draining. So I go to hook up the stinky slinky and open the cap and get drenched by water....again, no true black water. Rescue the cap and begin investigating, found the two pull handles along the frame. Not happy nor impressed with the dealership at all.
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Good thing new and not true black...[emoji28]
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03-08-2021, 05:00 AM
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Black Tank
No joke, glad it was just clear water. It's too bad your dealer was lacking. Camp in it if possible then make a punch list for correction. Once all are repaired, talk to management and if you get not satisfaction then blister them in the dealer website comments section.
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03-08-2021, 07:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfickjr
Thank you. That is what we were thinking. So funny story (you may laugh), we were never told about the back tanks or that there was more than 1 black and 1 grey. We finally got the camper hooked up and set and figured we would test everything. We run all water faucets and flush toilets (we never use toilet before ensuring proper functioning). Found that the master shower is not draining. So I go to hook up the stinky slinky and open the cap and get drenched by water....again, no true black water. Rescue the cap and begin investigating, found the two pull handles along the frame. Not happy nor impressed with the dealership at all.
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BTDT - but with true black water
If you ever leave one of the valves open after dumping, then install the cap, it is pretty easy to "get a bath" on the next use. Many of us install a "last chance" valve right at the end of the 3" flushing line just ahead of the cap. That way, you have a visible valve that protects you during cap removal, even if you left a dump valve open or you have one leaking by. I cut the 3" lines (two lines like you have) and glued in a new valve near each cap. I think Camco makes a twist-on valve that can be installed right on the end of your existing line. This would be easy to steal - and removing and reinstalling it during use sort of by-passes the whole reason I want to leave it in place. Lastly, having this valve on the end of the line will allow you to "balance" your gray tanks - it is easy to fill up the shower tank and not have much in the galley tank - or vise versa. By closing your last chance valve, you can open both gray tank valves and at least balance the level between them.
The downside of doing this is that these valves will be "outside" the protection of the underbelly and potentially subject to freezing - something to consider. If we are getting into cold weather, I will leave these valves in the open state with the caps installed.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Camco-Adapter...%2C239&sr=1-30
Good luck!
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03-08-2021, 08:07 AM
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Pickup this cap, always connect the sewer inlet connection securely 1st, then while holding the hose underneath remove the small cap, it's much easier to catch/control a 3/4" stream than a 3" gusher! BTDT as has most everyone that's rv'd for a while.
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03-08-2021, 03:13 PM
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Had an 08 Fuzion 373. Now in a new 427. The tank setup is fantastic to end with a clean flush. Dump black tanks first. Then grey that also has kitchen water. Last the "clean" gray that is only shower and bath sink water. Sometimes I make the kids take a shower before we leave to fill the last grey tank.
I also installed an expandable "stinky slinky" tube underneath in the rear so this never goes "in" the RV. Modified it with a 1/4" drain hole at bottom near each end cap. Hose goes in fairly clean, can still drain, and water can drip out.
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03-10-2021, 01:37 PM
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Just happen to be in Walmart and saw that camco last chance valve. I figured I would spend the $25 and get it, just hope no one is so desperate to steal it.
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03-10-2021, 02:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfickjr
Just happen to be in Walmart and saw that camco last chance valve. I figured I would spend the $25 and get it, just hope no one is so desperate to steal it.
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You can always leave your "main black tank valve" open... That way if anyone is "dishonest enough to steal your last chance valve" you'll be able to follow the "poop trail" to recover it....
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05-03-2021, 07:08 AM
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05-03-2021, 07:39 AM
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Do you have a question or a comment about the thread ?
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05-03-2021, 12:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfickjr
Just happen to be in Walmart and saw that camco last chance valve. I figured I would spend the $25 and get it, just hope no one is so desperate to steal it.
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Full-timed for 10+ years all across the country in about every kind of park/campground you can imagine leaving grill, chairs, EMS, & whatever we may have needed/wanted outside & never had anything sprout legs & wander off.
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05-03-2021, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by travelin texans
Full-timed for 10+ years all across the country in about every kind of park/campground you can imagine leaving grill, chairs, EMS, & whatever we may have needed/wanted outside & never had anything sprout legs & wander off.
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Especially anything missing that has to do with the "poo end of the trailer"... If I were a thief and was looking around RV's for something to pack off, it sure wouldn't be anything that stunk or that dripped gooey poo ...... I think the terminal valve is about as safe "just twisted on there" as it would be "locked by a high dollar security device".... Who would "steal crap" ??? On second thought, no need to answer that rhetorical question ...
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06-27-2021, 11:09 AM
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I received the same informs directly from Keystone via email.
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06-27-2021, 11:15 AM
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Oh, boy just saw this. I don't know why there are black diamond question marks and I don't remember if I had a question or comment now. My 2016 Fuzion 414 has been quite the mystery rig.
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07-02-2021, 12:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RamminTime
Sounds like it’s setup as my 373 is. The front bathroom (sink and shower) exit to a grey tank handle up front, the master toilet leads to a the black tank handle up front. Then, the kitchen sink leads to the second grey tank. The back sink/toilet exit into the second black tank. This came from my Fuzion rep.
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I also have a 2021 Fuzion 424 and this is how mine are.
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