Can someone tell me about my scale weight

[Laredo Tugger]

Originally Posted by sonofcy

I hope you update us because the weights you originally posted show your truck GVW is 11,780 which is over your sticker GVWR and is illegal and dangerous. Your trailer is 13,180 and your pin weight is 3,200 or 24.3%. The 24.3% is a good percentage, but I will be surprised if a single axle truck can handle a payload of 3,200. Check the yellow sticker on the driver side door post, usually yellow. You may be in dually territory.

I am still trying to figure how a 32 ft. fifth wheel could have a pin weight of 3200 lbs. That seems heavy for that size trailer. I could be wrong.
I think the math might have got sidetracked on that calculation.
RMc

[sonofcy]

Originally Posted by Laredo Tugger

I am still trying to figure how a 32 ft. fifth wheel could have a pin weight of 3200 lbs. That seems heavy for that size trailer. I could be wrong.
I think the math might have got sidetracked on that calculation.
RMc

Normal range is 15 to 25 so he is within normal range.

[Laredo Tugger]

The specifications for the OPs trailer show a hitch weight of 2065.
How he got it to 3200 lbs. is the question. A difference of 1135 lbs?
Must be where he stores the gold bars I guess. Or the math needs to be reworked.
RMc

[sonofcy]

Originally Posted by Laredo Tugger

The specifications for the OPs trailer show a hitch weight of 2065.
How he got it to 3200 lbs. is the question. A difference of 1135 lbs?
Must be where he stores the gold bars I guess. Or the math needs to be reworked.
RMc

2065 is the phoney baloney number the vendor puts out there, 3,200 or 3,500 as another fellow calculated (I am not sure which is correct) is the actual weight from the scale tickets. No matter how you slice it, he is overloaded, too little truck and likely too few wheels to carry the weight.

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by Laredo Tugger

I am still trying to figure how a 32 ft. fifth wheel could have a pin weight of 3200 lbs. That seems heavy for that size trailer. I could be wrong.
I think the math might have got sidetracked on that calculation.
RMc

We have a 32' 5er and a 2,700# pin with a small basement, if the OP has a larger basement I could easily see 3,500# is within reason.

Originally Posted by sonofcy

I hope you update us because the weights you originally posted show your truck GVW is 11,780 which is over your sticker GVWR and is illegal and dangerous. Your trailer is 13,180 and your pin weight is 3,200 or 24.3%. The 24.3% is a good percentage, but I will be surprised if a single axle truck can handle a payload of 3,200. Check the yellow sticker on the driver side door post, usually yellow. You may be in dually territory.

Originally Posted by sonofcy

2065 is the phoney baloney number the vendor puts out there, 3,200 or 3,500 as another fellow calculated (I am not sure which is correct) is the actual weight from the scale tickets. No matter how you slice it, he is overloaded, too little truck and likely too few wheels to carry the weight.

You my friend deserve the "Master Weight Police award"
The OP's weight ticket showed a total TV weight of 11,780#, which places him a whole 80# over GVWR, the wheels are NOT going to fall off his TV, and not an unsafe condition.

The OP's weight on his rear axle is 6,640# on and axle system rated for 7,000# so 340# of spare capacity. The OP's 2018 Ram 3500 SRW is more than enough TV for a 13,180# 5er.

The OP could possibly move have some heavy items from the bed of the TV into the 5er (if he has those), if he moved about 120# from TV to 5er, his pin would increase by a percentage of the weight moved, and could come in under GVWR, and still be within axle rating.

I was 1,700# over GVWR with our old 2001 Ram 2500, but still within axle and tire ratings. I will say towed and handled great, had a couple of panic stops and it stopped well. Now no issues with the new 2016.

Don't get me wrong I would like to see all within GVWR, but the important numbers are axle and TIRE.

[sonofcy]

Originally Posted by rhagfo

We have a 32' 5er and a 2,700# pin with a small basement, if the OP has a larger basement I could easily see 3,500# is within reason.






You my friend deserve the "Master Weight Police award"
The OP's weight ticket showed a total TV weight of 11,780#, which places him a whole 80# over GVWR, the wheels are NOT going to fall off his TV, and not an unsafe condition.

The OP's weight on his rear axle is 6,640# on and axle system rated for 7,000# so 340# of spare capacity. The OP's 2018 Ram 3500 SRW is more than enough TV for a 13,180# 5er.

The OP could possibly move have some heavy items from the bed of the TV into the 5er (if he has those), if he moved about 120# from TV to 5er, his pin would increase by a percentage of the weight moved, and could come in under GVWR, and still be within axle rating.

I was 1,700# over GVWR with our old 2001 Ram 2500, but still within axle and tire ratings. I will say towed and handled great, had a couple of panic stops and it stopped well. Now no issues with the new 2016.

Don't get me wrong I would like to see all within GVWR, but the important numbers are axle and TIRE.

The axle might be ok, but what about his tires? Posting a picture of his yellow sticker would help.

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by sonofcy

The axle might be ok, but what about his tires? Posting a picture of his yellow sticker would help.

The vehicle axle rating is based on the weakest component, be it the axle, springs, brakes or tires. It seems to me that the OEM tires are rated at about 3,600# ea.
Sonofcy, I strongly suggest you do some research on GVWR and axle and tire ratings.

Once the TV is off the lot the yellow sticker is basically out dated. He is currently 80# over GVWR. The Payload number on the yellow sticker is the difference of the vehicle GVWR less curb weight as it left the factory and an allowance for a driver and some fuel.

[Tireman9]

NOTE: RVIA has a 10% Reserve Load capacity on the tires above the GAWR as found on the certification label.
GAWR would cover all the components except the tires.

[wiredgeorge]

Originally Posted by rhagfo

We have a 32' 5er and a 2,700# pin with a small basement, if the OP has a larger basement I could easily see 3,500# is within reason.

What the heck do you people stash in your pass through storage? 800 lbs? That is a lot of tools and lawn chairs.

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by Tireman9

NOTE: RVIA has a 10% Reserve Load capacity on the tires above the GAWR as found on the certification label.
GAWR would cover all the components except the tires.

Sorry to disagree, but the OEM tire size on both the VIN sticker and Yellow Payload sticker are rated high enough to cover the listed GAWR.
I don't believe that tire shops are allowed to put a lower rated tire on a vehicle. That and the OP's 2018 Ram 3500 SRW is likely still on the OEM tires.

My 2001 Ram had a rear GAWR of 6,084# which was exactly what the two OEM tires ratings added up to. I had the optional tires that increased the tire capacity about 600#.

[tech740]

Originally Posted by sonofcy

I hope you update us because the weights you originally posted show your truck GVW is 11,780 which is over your sticker GVWR and is illegal and dangerous. Your trailer is 13,180 and your pin weight is 3,200 or 24.3%. The 24.3% is a good percentage, but I will be surprised if a single axle truck can handle a payload of 3,200. Check the yellow sticker on the driver side door post, usually yellow. You may be in dually territory.

My SRW yellow sticker is 3810. I am 24K overall and the trailer is 15K. I am perfectly comfortable with this on a SRW so I am pretty sure as long as the OP is comfortable puling trailers, he wont run into issues because he is 80# over a sticker value.