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04-04-2023, 03:00 PM
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Moving into our permanent site
While will be moving into a year long permanent site. Question I have is. Should I buy some 1x12 and park on it. Keeping the tires from being parked on gravel. I plan to cover the tires. Park on 1x12 and find something I can use as an underpinning.
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Jacksonville, Nc
2020 Keystone Cougar 5th wheel 29 rks traded now
2021 3761 fl Montana 5th wheel
Pulled with a 2022 F350 King Ranch
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04-04-2023, 03:14 PM
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Doesn't hurt to park on gravel or wood from my personal experience. Probably best to use pressure treated if you go that way. What do you mean by underpinning?
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04-04-2023, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Camping family
While will be moving into a year long permanent site. Question I have is. Should I buy some 1x12 and park on it. Keeping the tires from being parked on gravel. I plan to cover the tires. Park on 1x12 and find something I can use as an underpinning.
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i’d get a cheap set of wheels and tires to keep on the trailer if it sits for a year or more and keep the good set in my garage…and cover the wheels and no one will ever know
if the tires are gonna need replacing soon i wouldn’t bother
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04-04-2023, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jasin1
i’d get a cheap set of wheels and tires to keep on the trailer if it sits for a year or more and keep the good set in my garage…and cover the wheels and no one will ever know
if the tires are gonna need replacing soon i wouldn’t bother
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Tires are new
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Bob/Kay
Jacksonville, Nc
2020 Keystone Cougar 5th wheel 29 rks traded now
2021 3761 fl Montana 5th wheel
Pulled with a 2022 F350 King Ranch
Retired LEO after 35 years just enjoying life now.
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04-04-2023, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wiredgeorge
Doesn't hurt to park on gravel or wood from my personal experience. Probably best to use pressure treated if you go that way. What do you mean by underpinning?
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Underpinning placing something around the camper enclosing the opening between the bottom of camper and the ground. Blocking wind and insulating some during the winter months
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Bob/Kay
Jacksonville, Nc
2020 Keystone Cougar 5th wheel 29 rks traded now
2021 3761 fl Montana 5th wheel
Pulled with a 2022 F350 King Ranch
Retired LEO after 35 years just enjoying life now.
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04-04-2023, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Camping family
Underpinning placing something around the camper enclosing the opening between the bottom of camper and the ground. Blocking wind and insulating some during the winter months
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Called skirting in my part of the world. Underpinning to me implies something under the trailer to do something. Don't know Jacksonville NC but I suspect it gets chilly in the winter so would consider skirting if you are not moving the camper. They do make RV skirting and folks who live in colder areas can probably make specific suggestions. Heated hose and some way to keep the sewer pipe from freezing might make sense.
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2006 F350 CC 4WD 6.0L
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04-04-2023, 07:51 PM
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Keep your tires off anything that absorbs and holds water (wood is an example). I roll the camper up on 4 common square plastic tire levelers to keep the tires off the 2x12 treated planks on the grass. The rain drains right past the tires so they are not sitting in water or on soaked wet wood.
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04-05-2023, 02:11 AM
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In my Pole Barn with a concrete slab or if we are on the road and gonna stay somewhere for a month or more I use Trailer Legs https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Jac...4aAqf3EALw_wcB It keeps the tires off the ground, eliminates flat spots which can lead to tire failure and actually makes the 5ver more stabile. Been using them for about 5 years now.
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04-05-2023, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RickV
In my Pole Barn with a concrete slab or if we are on the road and gonna stay somewhere for a month or more I use Trailer Legs https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Jac...4aAqf3EALw_wcB It keeps the tires off the ground, eliminates flat spots which can lead to tire failure and actually makes the 5ver more stabile. Been using them for about 5 years now.
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I would in NO WAY consider living in a trailer for a year while supported on these "plastic axle blocks". One wrong jump of a grandchild, one fall in the shower could easily be all it takes for one of those "axle jacks sitting on the gravel base" (even if there's a 2x8 between the plastic and the gravel base) to tip the axle and damage the trailer. Those may be OK for temporary storage of an uninhabited trailer, but when you consider what it's doing and how it does it, this is not a good way to enhance stabilizing a trailer on a permanent site if you're going to be living in it...
Why not ???? First, we all "regularly debate jacking a static axle for an emergency tire change or bearing maintenance "under the spring hangers" but somehow "this device, 4-6 inches inboard of the hangers is OK for permanent placement for a year ????
Then, we all know that the closer to the ground the trailer sits, the more stability the jacks or leveling legs can prevent trailer movement. Then, these devices DO NOT remove the spring bounce from the suspension, which actually enhances the trailer movement by putting it higher in the air on "loaded springs".
The better way to stabilize any trailer for "permanent use for a year or more" would be to put the frame on blocks, permanently removing all suspension movement. Just use blocks that are long enough to lift the tires off the ground, or just level and block the trailer, then simply remove the tires/wheels and store them "someplace where there's no UV, no ozone and no moisture. That way, the trailer is stable, the tires are protected from flat spots and UV/water damage, the springs are not loaded and are protected from being deflected and there's no chance of the trailer "tipping one of those plastic things and twisting the frame"
A year is a heck of a long time for any trailer to be "suspended on 4 tiny plastic blocks" and to do that "on gravel" ?????
Here's a photo of just where these things sit on the axles. Precarious at least and likely putting weight on a "do not jack here" spot... Not a good idea for a year of trailer use while supported on these blocks.
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04-05-2023, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JRTJH
I would in NO WAY consider living in a trailer for a year while supported on these "plastic axle blocks". One wrong jump of a grandchild, one fall in the shower could easily be all it takes for one of those "axle jacks sitting on the gravel base" (even if there's a 2x8 between the plastic and the gravel base) to tip the axle and damage the trailer. Those may be OK for temporary storage of an uninhabited trailer, but when you consider what it's doing and how it does it, this is not a good way to enhance stabilizing a trailer on a permanent site if you're going to be living in it...
Why not ???? First, we all "regularly debate jacking a static axle for an emergency tire change or bearing maintenance "under the spring hangers" but somehow "this device, 4-6 inches inboard of the hangers is OK for permanent placement for a year ????
Then, we all know that the closer to the ground the trailer sits, the more stability the jacks or leveling legs can prevent trailer movement. Then, these devices DO NOT remove the spring bounce from the suspension, which actually enhances the trailer movement by putting it higher in the air on "loaded springs".
The better way to stabilize any trailer for "permanent use for a year or more" would be to put the frame on blocks, permanently removing all suspension movement. Just use blocks that are long enough to lift the tires off the ground, or just level and block the trailer, then simply remove the tires/wheels and store them "someplace where there's no UV, no ozone and no moisture. That way, the trailer is stable, the tires are protected from flat spots and UV/water damage, the springs are not loaded and are protected from being deflected and there's no chance of the trailer "tipping one of those plastic things and twisting the frame"
A year is a heck of a long time for any trailer to be "suspended on 4 tiny plastic blocks" and to do that "on gravel" ?????
Here's a photo of just where these things sit on the axles. Precarious at least and likely putting weight on a "do not jack here" spot... Not a good idea for a year of trailer use while supported on these blocks.
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No way would I live in one for a year on those things! We've had excessive winds lately here in Southern Arizona that would've probably blown a rv off those little things.
Personally 3-4 stacks of cinder blocks under the frame on either side would be much more stable, less likely fall off & considerably cheaper than those 4 plastic things.
Then if you want you can remove the tires/wheels, they'll still be a year older sitting in the garage or on the trailer covered, rv tires age out long before they wear out.
As for flat spots on the tires that was from back in the bias belted tire days, the newer ones may feel flat for couple miles til they've warmed up but no damage to the tire is done.
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04-05-2023, 10:16 AM
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When we lived in town, I was able to park the camper beside the house (until zoning told me I could not do that any more ... after 16 years sitting there ... Yea... we moved!
Anyway, that's another story. I laid a bed a gravel beside the house and parked the camper there when not traveling. I did, however, lay some 2 inch x 12 inch x 8 foot treated lumber on top of the gravel and then the trailer(s) sat on top of the lumber.
Where we live now, we had the asphalt driveway resurfaced. In so doing, I had them slope the drive way so rain water would flow away from the house and minimal down hill straight into the garage. But there is about a 5 inch raise on one side of the drive way now. So, when parking the trailer, it's tilted sideways.
I use 2 - 2 inch x 12 in x 8 foot treated lumber board stacked on top of each other on the low side of the drive way to make the trailer level side to side. In other words, I've been using treated lumber under my trailer tires for the last 25 years and never had any issues.
If on gravel, I advise using something directly under the tires other than the gravel. Gravel will splash water and gravel dust all over everything. The lumber does help eliminate some of those lime build up spots from splashing rain water.
And, the tires will not as likely, sink as the weight of the trailer is distributed over a wider area directly on the gravel. Even on gravel, the ground sinks under the weight of the tires.
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04-06-2023, 08:29 AM
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My plan is to park on 2x12x8 treated lumber. Some say no others say okay. Guess it’s what I want to do. Doesn’t seem like there is one way better then another.
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Bob/Kay
Jacksonville, Nc
2020 Keystone Cougar 5th wheel 29 rks traded now
2021 3761 fl Montana 5th wheel
Pulled with a 2022 F350 King Ranch
Retired LEO after 35 years just enjoying life now.
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