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Old 01-12-2020, 09:18 AM   #41
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About wrong way drivers: Phoenix has its major share of them andthey are usually attributed to DUI's. However, driving with the fiver in and around AZ we have almost been a wrong way driver because the ramps are not well marked. Yes, I was stone cold sober. The biggest thing we noticed was in California where the have the exit ramps well signed all around. They have signs and arrows at car eye level pointing the direction of the ramp, along with truck eye level signs doing the same. If you go into those ramps you're way too far gone. AZis now playing with electronics to detect wrong way driving. Too late. Maybe better signage at exit ramps might be a better and cheaper route to try first.
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Old 01-12-2020, 09:21 AM   #42
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LOL, Back roads mean something different to many people! I have never lived where cable tv was available so I would suggest you stay off the "back roads" with your RV. Now I really enjoy travailing on secondary roads verses the Interstates. I generally get far better milage and arrive nearly as fast as Interstates.


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Old 01-12-2020, 09:35 AM   #43
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Took the “scenic route” once from AZ to OH; wouldn’t do it again! Too many small towns and too few fueling stations.
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Old 01-12-2020, 10:40 AM   #44
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When traveling in the vast expanses found in the western USA states the highway scenery is very similar. Traveling the interstate highways allows you to just keep on going until some situation like the need of fuel forces you to pull off the highway. The US highway system is going to take you thru towns and cities where the continuous traveling monotony is interrupted.

This first picture was taken traveling west on I80 in WY heading for UT. On this highway the truckers catch you so fast you’re surprised when they go whizzing by and their wake rocks your whole rig…. http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums...pictureid=6776

In this next picture we are heading south from Fallon, NV to Las Vegas on US-95. Not much difference in the view except the traffic is sparse with hardly any 18 wheelers.... http://www.keystoneforums.com/forums...pictureid=6775
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Old 01-12-2020, 03:07 PM   #45
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When the kids were little we traveled the west and camped in an Econoline van with top carriers or occasionally my in-laws 26' Winnebago brave. Since the kids moved on My wife and I have usually go in an open top jeep Wrangler with a couple of cargo carriers attached. We have always stayed on the back roads as much as possible. Well the tent camping just lost its appeal over the years so we have just purchased a 2017 Cougar 28RKS Our Tow vehicle is a 2018 crew cab long box Bighorn Dodge diesel. We have been making local trips in the last couple of months and will begin longer and longer excursions in the spring. My inclination is to continue sticking to the back roads as much as we can, but I do have concerns with not only fuel location but with the ability to get into some of the stations in small towns With a tall trailer and almost 50' total length. There are apps to help find fuel but not awning heights etc. I'm just curious if anyone has had to drop a trailer mid travel day to get fuel?
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Old 01-12-2020, 04:09 PM   #46
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When the kids were little we traveled the west and camped in an Econoline van with top carriers or occasionally my in-laws 26' Winnebago brave. Since the kids moved on My wife and I have usually go in an open top jeep Wrangler with a couple of cargo carriers attached. We have always stayed on the back roads as much as possible. Well the tent camping just lost its appeal over the years so we have just purchased a 2017 Cougar 28RKS Our Tow vehicle is a 2018 crew cab long box Bighorn Dodge diesel. We have been making local trips in the last couple of months and will begin longer and longer excursions in the spring. My inclination is to continue sticking to the back roads as much as we can, but I do have concerns with not only fuel location but with the ability to get into some of the stations in small towns With a tall trailer and almost 50' total length. There are apps to help find fuel but not awning heights etc. I'm just curious if anyone has had to drop a trailer mid travel day to get fuel?

Never dropped a trailer per se to have to get fuel. I do however wait until I land at my camp location then detach to make my final fill up of the day.

Awning heights have not prove a problem for us....yet, but I pull a bumper pull and it maxes out at about 11'6". Most modern stations have taller canopies. I did drive around a building at a convenience store to get to an accessible pump that would let me leave focusing on the awning. I completely lost track that I was driving under the eave of the building at the corner. Got out, looked back and but for the grace of God I would have taken of both ACs but I did not get that far over - I just completely ignored the eave hanging over us while looking at the pumps, canopy and how I was going to get out. To me the key is to start looking early. In rural far flung areas at 1/2 tank I will take the next station I can get in - lots of them you can't. In metro areas you don't have to be so picky. We usually want a break, potty, bottle of water or something by then anyway. I will not exit the freeway if there is only one station because it probably won't work. I like at least 2 lanes both directions in case I have to turn around. I start looking well before I get to the station looking for ability to exit without backing, steep entrances etc.

To us backroads are nice because you can see some varied scenery and lots of little "things" that are indicative of the area whether it be roadside sweet potato sellers, boiled peanuts, Indians selling their wares...you won't see that on an interstate. We try to mix and match the 2; I like the time I can make on an interstate if I have a fixed destination I need to be at for a fixed purpose.
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Old 01-12-2020, 06:40 PM   #47
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Install a auxiliary tank in bed you can go all day and fuel up after unhooking
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Old 01-12-2020, 08:02 PM   #48
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Know your options

Whichever is your preferred road type... always know the alternatives and alternates for detour that may occur at anytime.

GPS and club trip planning services are great, but nothing beats a good detailed road map or atlas. Also go online and zoom in on the roads on map view and satellite view, to get an idea how the road looks close up.
Then keep up with up to date postings and broadcasts if road conditions. We always plan each day that we may have to change routes ir even delay in an area before proceeding.

Know your limit and drive below that. Stay safe and enjoy the trip whatever it may bring.
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Old 01-13-2020, 05:52 AM   #49
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Whichever is your preferred road type... always know the alternatives and alternates for detour that may occur at anytime.

GPS and club trip planning services are great, but nothing beats a good detailed road map or atlas. Also go online and zoom in on the roads on map view and satellite view, to get an idea how the road looks close up.
Then keep up with up to date postings and broadcasts if road conditions. We always plan each day that we may have to change routes ir even delay in an area before proceeding.

Know your limit and drive below that. Stay safe and enjoy the trip whatever it may bring.
I know we overdo it - the GS router (I wish they'd hurry up and figure out what they are going to replace the now discontinued version with; the temporary version leaves a lot to be desired); the on-line AAA router (I sure do miss the old TripTiks with their detailed area maps inside the fold); either Bing or Google maps; GPS and of course as stated above, good maps (state maps obtained at visitor centers and the trucker's atlas). I like to map out a few routes (including side roads) and know my options so if they are needed I won't (typically) be surprised.

With all the technology available today, it makes one wonder how we ever managed to find our way or make reservations in the olden days.
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Old 01-13-2020, 05:58 AM   #50
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I'm for sticking to the interstates. A few reasons: 1) I've gotten myself into too many jambs on back roads. Hairpin turns, low bridges, bridges with low weight limits. 2) In case of a breakdown, in general I'd think it's much easier to get help when on an interstate than on a back road. 3) Safety -- I've found myself in some seedy looking places on back road. 4) BUMPY ROADS. This one's a bit of a "wash," since some of the interstates are TERRIBLY bumpy -- but in general back roads are worse.
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Old 01-13-2020, 06:44 AM   #51
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I'm for sticking to the interstates. A few reasons: 1) I've gotten myself into too many jambs on back roads. Hairpin turns, low bridges, bridges with low weight limits. 2) In case of a breakdown, in general I'd think it's much easier to get help when on an interstate than on a back road. 3) Safety -- I've found myself in some seedy looking places on back road. 4) BUMPY ROADS. This one's a bit of a "wash," since some of the interstates are TERRIBLY bumpy -- but in general back roads are worse.
I think there is a difference between "Back Roads" and "Secondary Hwys". I believe this was mentioned before.
I would rather travel on secondary roads in bad weather than interstates as the crazy's that think their fancy all wheel drive car with all the gizmos will allow them to drive 70 on snow or ice covered roads. I don't see 30 to 50 car pile ups on secondary roads.
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Old 01-13-2020, 03:37 PM   #52
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Took the “scenic route” once from AZ to OH; wouldn’t do it again! Too many small towns and too few fueling stations.
Some of us think this is a feature.
Small towns in the mid west are the real America and I've never had problems with fuel.
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Old 01-15-2020, 02:18 PM   #53
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Has anyone tried the RV Life GPS? We are planning a February trip to Texas. Thought I would give that one a try unless someone screams “do not use that one”!

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