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02-22-2021, 08:02 AM
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Repair/Remodel
I spoke about starting a thread that was with a non-Keystone product. I received the ok as pretty much most RVs are built with similar products and techniques.
Anyway, this is an 2002 Monaco Diplomat. I’ve been bouncing around the idea of another RV as the Alpine is now “home” for awhile. (Whole other story)
I had to jump in this as the short diesel pushers are near impossible to find. This is the shortest Monaco at the time, 35’. It was in Phoenix. I had my bud go look at it. He said it everything worked and looked “solid” on bones. So I bought it and he drove it to his place in Yuma. We drove down this last weekend to get to work and bring it home.
Here are some of the specifics:
ISC 8.3 330hp Cummins
Allison 3000
7.5 Diesel Gen
8 bag Air ride Roadmaster raised rail chassis
Towing capacity is 10k, which for this age and length was a mandatory. Many coaches up till 03 were only 5K as they were built on Freightliner chassis
Couple unique build items:
It has “Hung” wall exterior. The walls are not sandwich laminated between foam. It’s my understanding that the gel coat siding is adhered to the aluminum frame and not glued to luan/foam. There is no delamination on the coach.
It has aluminum rafters, and aluminum roof. I’ll get pics on strip and reseal latter this week. Doing new vents and tv antenna as well.
The slides appear to be all aluminum frame with a small section of luan for the inside/outside. There is a filon like material on the outside. There isn’t any plywood built in the slides. It’s laminated to the luan. It’s not a good design at all. The rear bedroom slide will need some work. There is a company that has a fix and will be contacting them.
The seals are a joke. Must have been before wiper seals. Will be replacing them on both slides.
Now the bad. We got it cheap as the floor is soft, as in gone in the tub area. Ripping it out now and will get pics of the process. It also has a good size scrap down the side that will need filled and painted. And it’s dated in the decor
Follow along and add suggestions/comments. I’m no expert by any means. My bud here in Yuma is a carpenter by trade so he’s helping the the subfloor.
Hope to get a little time to Fish and hit the Desert Bar out of Parker while here.
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02-22-2021, 08:24 AM
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Tearing down.
Turns out the tile floor is taller than the carpet. The tile is stuck down on its own 1/2” OSB sheets. These sheets are floating on top of the subfloor.
The tile runs in the kitchen, bath, and partiality under the shower, fridge, and interior walls.
So now have to build up the cabinets and interior s about an inch as the new plank floor will go right to subfloor.
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02-22-2021, 08:28 AM
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Justin, if the saying "Idle hands are the devil's workshop" has any truth, this project will keep you 'golden' in God's eyes. But from the pic's, it does appear to have good bones.
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02-22-2021, 08:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notanlines
Justin, if the saying "Idle hands are the devil's workshop" has any truth, this project will keep you 'golden' in God's eyes. But from the pic's, it does appear to have good bones.
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Hopefully “done” by May LOL
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02-22-2021, 08:40 AM
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I will say this, Arizona is the place to be in February
Hey, look I’m a poet and didn’t know it
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02-22-2021, 01:50 PM
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Looks like you are curing the "dated decor" as you repair the rest. Nothing like doing your own buildout and way cheaper when you can do some of the work yourself.
Griz
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02-22-2021, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ibdagriz
Looks like you are curing the "dated decor" as you repair the rest. Nothing like doing your own buildout and way cheaper when you can do some of the work yourself.
Griz
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That’s my thought process anyway. Don’t know any other way. Can’t seem to pay someone to do stuff I can’t figure out.
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02-22-2021, 08:30 AM
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Here’s how we ended last night
I’ll upload damage subfloor photos here shortly
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02-23-2021, 08:23 AM
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That looks like a project I wouldn't mind helping with either.........as long as it's on someone else's credit card!
We gave $2000 for an old Layton 5th wheel that was only about 20' long that I replaced all the flooring & the paneling in the rear u shaped dinette back in the early '90s. Then I transferred with my job & lived in that tiny thing for 5 months til the wife & I found a house.
Would I do that again? HELL NO! But at the time I had the time, tools and the $$. Nowadays I have LOTS of time, a lot less tools & very little money.
Good luck! Have fun!
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02-23-2021, 11:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by travelin texans
That looks like a project I wouldn't mind helping with either.........as long as it's on someone else's credit card!
We gave $2000 for an old Layton 5th wheel that was only about 20' long that I replaced all the flooring & the paneling in the rear u shaped dinette back in the early '90s. Then I transferred with my job & lived in that tiny thing for 5 months til the wife & I found a house.
Would I do that again? HELL NO! But at the time I had the time, tools and the $$. Nowadays I have LOTS of time, a lot less tools & very little money.
Good luck! Have fun!
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I totally get what you are saying.
We have kicked around a MH for years. Situation presented its self. I had to block time off work, and will have to do it more.
I have a budget on it. If I was to sell it after done I’d make $10-$15 I believe.
But we want to keep it. A big house just doesn’t have the appeal anymore. We’d like to enjoy some time and see some stuff. Our parents are now in 70s and we want a little freedom to leave, but we still have some roots in town to get back to them and care for them. That’s a whole other thread to start.
I’ll the spread sheet filled in so everyone can get an idea of what it took to get it done
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02-23-2021, 11:27 AM
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Subfloor almost all up.
Looking at the ducting, we are going to get pull the tin up and replace. The air is just ruining between the beams with a plastic bottom.
Will go a long ways to help my wife feel that the rig is “Clean” and they had a cat which she is allergic to
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02-23-2021, 11:42 AM
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Kinda cool as well, color code for wiring
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02-23-2021, 07:00 PM
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Opened up the HVAC to move a vent down and clean. Buttoning up subfloor in morn
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02-27-2021, 05:55 PM
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Plank floor is almost done. Will add toilet, bath sink, and New shower pan back in tomorrow.
Just cut the rubber coin floor for the captain seat area. Hope to get it down tomorrow and have seats back in, and get the consoles and dash back together
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02-27-2021, 06:12 PM
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You are moving right along!!! Looking good.
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02-27-2021, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckster57
You are moving right along!!! Looking good.
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Thanks, I was most curious about the slide seals, have you seen any like this?
I’m going to cut out the “cups” in each side of the bedroom slide. I have no room to drill/rivet a piece of aluminum angle. Going to try some 3M fast set adhesive to lay down a piece of angle for the new wiper seal to at least grip to until I can come up with a better solution
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02-27-2021, 06:30 PM
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AP products has a website with a profile pic and measurements of pretty much any/every slide seal. Might want to take a look:
https://approducts.net/catalog/index...cPath=47_48_49
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Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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02-27-2021, 06:43 PM
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Sweet site.
I picked up some double bulb to try and modify the way this is laid.
They just went all the way around with 1 piece. Left gaps IMO
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02-28-2021, 06:05 AM
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Thanks for posting, this has been GREAT to watch and follow.
Oak
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02-28-2021, 07:25 AM
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Quote:
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Thanks for posting, this has been GREAT to watch and follow.
Oak
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Thanks! A few more days and we head home, so the remodel will slow down a bit as I have to get back to work.
Will become a weekend project, but at a least it will be useable, solid, and safe.
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