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Old 06-28-2020, 12:59 PM   #41
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I am looking at the 29MBS 5th wheel. I have a 2019 1500 silverado. With my specs, the truck can tow 9,800lbs total.

The RV dealer told me that it is not recommended to tow more than 8,800lbs. (Specifically said 1,000lbs less than Chevy)

The 29MBS I want is 9,100lbs. That is 300lbs over the RV dealer's recommendations but 700lbs under Chevy's recommendations.

I can upgrade the gear ratio of the rear end and upgrade to a limited slip differential for about $2,700 and gain an additional 2,000lbs or more. I can also put air bags on the rear end to counter the drop. (Haven't got a quote yet)

Can someone explain why the RV dealer says 1,000 lbs less then Chevy.

Do i need to spend about $5,000 to make upgrades to my truck?

Thanks in advance

PS... a new, bigger truck is NOT in the package at the moment.
Use your head tires brakes suspension look good on paper. 2 things save your life tires and brakes.
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Old 06-28-2020, 01:17 PM   #42
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Use your head tires brakes suspension look good on paper. 2 things save your life tires and brakes.
I have to completely disagree with this. If the "tail is wagging the dog" (sway) then the greatest tires in the world aren't going to stop it and hitting the brakes on the truck will make it worse. The suspension is the most vital link in that system.
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Old 06-28-2020, 02:18 PM   #43
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Use your head tires brakes suspension look good on paper. 2 things save your life tires and brakes.
Everybody has an opinion he should have a 3/4 ton, 1/2 don’t offer a lot in safety I got grandfatherd in to a cdl back then so I know a tad more than these salesman do.
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Old 06-28-2020, 02:40 PM   #44
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Chevy 1/2 ton

Hey, I didn't read through all of the responses so hopefully I'm not repeating something but I had a 19 Silverado 1/2 ton. We bought a 2020 31BHKWE which is in the 7500 lb range. Not a fifth wheel though. We were going to get another model (don't remember which one) that was about 8500lbs. The dealer said that it was pushing the limits even though my truck also said 9800lbs rated. They said they would deliver it to our destination but after that we were on our own. So we changed to the 31BHKWE.

Anyway, I drove it off the lot and it had plenty of power. BUT it was a white knuckle drive to our storage area, about 15 miles. So I went and had airbags installed. Cured the vague steering but absolutely destroyed the ride quality.


All of this is to say that I think Chevy, and all the auto manufacturers are being very optimistic on their tow ratings, at least with the 1/2 tons. While the 19 would have done the job, it would have been a struggle at times and definitely wore it out prematurely.



Thankfully we were in a position to buy a bigger truck, a 2500 HD. If I would have known we were going to et a bigger truck, we would have gotten a bigger trailer.
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Old 06-28-2020, 03:06 PM   #45
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Old article prior to current SAE standards for testing that explained the dynamics of marketing and engineering at the time and mentions coming standards in 2nd article that appear to confirm that the SAE standards were accepted by truck makers.

http://www.trucktrend.com/news/163-0...wing-capacity/

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...is-calculated/
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Old 06-28-2020, 04:51 PM   #46
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You can put all the upgrades you want on that half ton truck, and you’ll still only have a half ton truck.

All those bolt on items are just to help improve the ride. It does NOT add to
Your Truck’s capabilities.

The truck is rated from the manufacturer to tow “x”
Amount of weight safely.

The tires. The suspension. The transmission. The engine. The frame. The brakes.

Adding those gadgets adds weight to
Your toe vehicle, there for reduces the amount you can tow.

Your truck might be able to pull it, but can it STOP it?

Many 3/4 ton trucks are rated
Too low to pull some of the campers
Out there. Even 350/3500 series are close to not being enough.


Do your homework.
Keep your family safe.
Keep other traffic safe.
Buy an appropriate size tow vehicle.
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Old 06-29-2020, 05:27 AM   #47
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Very small world.

So I have came to a conclusion. I will still be buying the 5th wheel I like... reason being is that this will be a long term living situation. I want the standard of living more than I want to travel. (I am 31) so, I will have the trailer delivered and I will buy a new TV in a year or two... then I will go traveling with it at that point.
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Old 06-29-2020, 06:48 AM   #48
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Nice, I hope all goes well. Enjoy
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Old 06-29-2020, 07:27 AM   #49
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Very small world.

So I have came to a conclusion. I will still be buying the 5th wheel I like... reason being is that this will be a long term living situation. I want the standard of living more than I want to travel. (I am 31) so, I will have the trailer delivered and I will buy a new TV in a year or two... then I will go traveling with it at that point.
Very sound decision.
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Old 06-29-2020, 08:19 AM   #50
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Very small world.

So I have came to a conclusion. I will still be buying the 5th wheel I like... reason being is that this will be a long term living situation. I want the standard of living more than I want to travel. (I am 31) so, I will have the trailer delivered and I will buy a new TV in a year or two... then I will go traveling with it at that point.
And I thought you had to be crazy to be a member here... good decision! wg
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Old 06-29-2020, 08:57 AM   #51
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Very small world.

So I have came to a conclusion. I will still be buying the 5th wheel I like... reason being is that this will be a long term living situation. I want the standard of living more than I want to travel. (I am 31) so, I will have the trailer delivered and I will buy a new TV in a year or two... then I will go traveling with it at that point.
Knowing your own personal needs is common sense.

Actually the vehicle vs trailer size mistakes go both ways.
I know more people with bigger trucks than needed than lighter than needed. A couple of examples are the guy that only pulls a 12' aluminum dinghy with his 3/4 ton, and my buddy with a 1 ton dually that won't tow or even use the bed.
We can all rationalize our stuff.
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Old 06-29-2020, 09:08 AM   #52
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Knowing your own personal needs is common sense.

Actually the vehicle vs trailer size mistakes go both ways.
I know more people with bigger trucks than needed than lighter than needed
. A couple of examples are the guy that only pulls a 12' aluminum dinghy with his 3/4 ton, and my buddy with a 1 ton dually that won't tow or even use the bed.
We can all rationalize our stuff.

I would think towing a trailer with a bigger truck than needed wouldn't be a mistake, more a safety factor. Those pulling a trailer with too light a truck ARE making a mistake. Heck, I know tons of folks with 1/2 & 3/4 ton trucks that pull nothing.....just want a truck in case they need it.
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Old 06-29-2020, 09:13 AM   #53
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Knowing your own personal needs is common sense.

Actually the vehicle vs trailer size mistakes go both ways.
I know more people with bigger trucks than needed than lighter than needed. A couple of examples are the guy that only pulls a 12' aluminum dinghy with his 3/4 ton, and my buddy with a 1 ton dually that won't tow or even use the bed.
We can all rationalize our stuff.
Agree with Danny's comments on this. Would just add that a lot of those people that only tow a 12' boat with a 3/4 ton may be using and needing that capacity for work. That, IMHO is a good "multi use" of a truck. Using a 1/2 ton to tow grossly overweight or otherwise compromising loads is foolish.
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Sort of like a 250 pound man buying a $300 pair of running shoes.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:03 AM   #55
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Sort of like a 250 pound man buying a $300 pair of running shoes.
Or the opposite analogy would be the 250 lb man wearing the pants with a 28" waist slung under his belly.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:20 AM   #56
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If you plan to upgrade the truck skip the 3/4 ton & go straight to the 1 ton srw, very little difference in price, no difference in mpg, rides about the same, but significantly more payload for current RV & you're set for a rv upgrade in the future.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:28 AM   #57
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About time to put this to bed. I believe that the OP got the idea. And made his choice. There will be others.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:41 AM   #58
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There will be others.
Say it ain't so.

We don't close threads normally just because the OP has made a decision. Others will ask more questions in the future and sometimes really old threads are resurrected from the dead.

Best choice is to just scroll by and ignore it.
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Congratulations

Congrats on the new 5er. A beautiful rig. As noted herein, go with a one ton in the future. The weight police know what they are talking about.
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Sort of like a 250 pound man buying a $300 pair of running shoes.
Trust me, I am a 250 lb man and I do buy $200 running shoes, $50 running shoes are like towing with a Toyota Corolla.
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