Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Keystone RV Forums > Keystone Tech Forums > Technical Corner
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-28-2021, 04:01 PM   #1
Old_Stevenick
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: USA
Posts: 278
Black water tank full "sound"

I've read here that some of you have come to knowing the sound of when your black water tank is close to full.

When I flush the toilet the sound of the water rushing down is all I hear.

What should I listen for?

The gauge as has been pointed out on other threads, is almost useless.
Old_Stevenick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2021, 04:26 PM   #2
LnS
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Space Coast
Posts: 37
trust your eyes, take a look down the ole poop hole, that will give you a good idea of how much head room you have left. Take a listen, take a look but for something that important, trust your eyes, if not the gauge. The gauge isn't meant to be accurate just an indicator for when you should start looking.
Others with tuned ears will tell you what their tank sounds like, your results may vary.
What you want to avoid is the wet feet shrieks in the night.
__________________
LnS
2019 F150XLT
2021 Cougar 25RDS TT
LnS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2021, 04:52 PM   #3
Old_Stevenick
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: USA
Posts: 278
While flushing and the water is rushing down and the hole is open I can't really see much. Maybe hold a flashlight and look?

Tomorrow I'll try turning off the water pump and stepping on the flush foot pedal. Maybe I can see better then if there's no water rushing down.

2 adults. How many gallons a day of poop, pee and flush water do we use?
Old_Stevenick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2021, 05:02 PM   #4
LnS
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Space Coast
Posts: 37
proper lighting helps, I haven't had to turn off the flow to see. It helps to have the water falling so you can see the surface disturbance.

Somethings you gonna have to answer yourself.
__________________
LnS
2019 F150XLT
2021 Cougar 25RDS TT
LnS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2021, 08:37 PM   #5
cliff
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 58
A lot depends on the toilet ball, pipe length, etc. We watch for the bubble when we flush. It means the water level is coming up the pipe. You ain't got many flushes left.
cliff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2021, 09:17 PM   #6
B-O-B'03
Senior Member
 
B-O-B'03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,089
When we are dry camping we use the following motto:

If it is yellow, let it mellow, if it is brown, flush it down. Meaning we wait to flush the pee until there are several to flush and the poo goes immediately.

That allows us to extend needing to dump the black tank.

-Brian
__________________
2014 Bullet Premier 22RBPR - let the camping commence!
2013 F150 Platinum - 5.0 - 3.55 ELD + towing package
B-O-B'03 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2021, 04:30 AM   #7
captcolour
Senior Member
 
captcolour's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Verona, KY
Posts: 320
When plenty of room, with I flush, the water rushes down without and burp or bubble. When it is nearing full, as soon as I step on the peddle, the water burps a bit before it goes down. My panel indicators seem pretty accurate so far and confirms what I see different when flushing.
__________________
New: 2021 Solitude 380FL
Old: 2016 Alpine 3600RS
Tow: 2017 F-350 DRW diesel
captcolour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2021, 04:39 AM   #8
flybouy
Site Team
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Joppa, MD
Posts: 11,741
It's easy to tell how much water you're adding. If the pump provides 3 gal/min. then for every min of flushing you'll add 3 gallons. Divide by 60 for flow rate/second. As for describing sound, well even the best wordsmiths would struggle with that. It's impossible to tell someone what it sounds like to Them as you have to know what their hearing impairmentsbor loss may be and the backround sound levels and frequencies are in that space (my DW gets her new hearing aids in about a week thank God.).

EXPERIENCE! The best teacher is experience so be observant to changes in sound and sight. If you hear something different look, investigate. This applies to not just your blacm tank but to most everything in life. There's often a "different" sound that precludes an issue. This even and I would say the most important example of this is a persons speech. A change in speech is one of the first indicators for a stroke.
__________________
Marshall
2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
flybouy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2021, 04:59 AM   #9
Scttw
Senior Member
 
Scttw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Toronto, on
Posts: 236
Quote:
Originally Posted by captcolour View Post
When plenty of room, with I flush, the water rushes down without and burp or bubble. When it is nearing full, as soon as I step on the peddle, the water burps a bit before it goes down. My panel indicators seem pretty accurate so far and confirms what I see different when flushing.

THIS ^^^^ is exactly the correct answer. Burp, or "Gurgle" as I call it - means it's about 80% full.

My panel lights considering the cost of my trailer stopped being accurate almost immediately.

Also for the OP ..... sometimes your bathroom sink will empty to your black - mine does.
__________________
2014 Alpine 3620FL
parked full time
12 x 23 - 4 season room 10 ft ceiling
80 x 175 lot
Pics of our Setup
Scttw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2021, 08:32 AM   #10
behrmr
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: McDonald
Posts: 21
With my Cougar I can tell by the sound as well. Basically you start to hear the waste water hitting the tank more when you flush. I'm usually about 80% full when I start to hear that.
behrmr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2021, 02:24 PM   #11
Old_Stevenick
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: USA
Posts: 278
Quote:
Originally Posted by flybouy View Post
It's easy to tell how much water you're adding. If the pump provides 3 gal/min. then for every min of flushing you'll add 3 gallons. Divide by 60 for flow rate/second. As for describing sound, well even the best wordsmiths would struggle with that. It's impossible to tell someone what it sounds like to Them as you have to know what their hearing impairmentsbor loss may be and the backround sound levels and frequencies are in that space (my DW gets her new hearing aids in about a week thank God.).

EXPERIENCE! The best teacher is experience so be observant to changes in sound and sight. If you hear something different look, investigate. This applies to not just your blacm tank but to most everything in life. There's often a "different" sound that precludes an issue. This even and I would say the most important example of this is a persons speech. A change in speech is one of the first indicators for a stroke.
Great post!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scttw View Post
THIS ^^^^ is exactly the correct answer. Burp, or "Gurgle" as I call it - means it's about 80% full.

My panel lights considering the cost of my trailer stopped being accurate almost immediately.

Also for the OP ..... sometimes your bathroom sink will empty to your black - mine does.
I never thought of that. I just emailed Keystone to ask. Hopefully they'll get back to me.
Old_Stevenick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2021, 02:42 PM   #12
skids
Senior Member
 
skids's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Florissant
Posts: 698
I have never had the black full enough to burble. I am a little paranoid, so I turn off the pump and open the flusher to look down with a flashlight (fun). I look to see how close to the down pipe the pool of yuck is.
__________________
Skids
2019 Bullet 248RKS
skids is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2021, 02:57 PM   #13
BauerAP
Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Franklinton
Posts: 67
I will usually fill the tanks to the flange before dumping on the last day. Depending on the stay and use this can take a while. The more water, the better the rinse/flush.

Doing this I can definitely hear when it’s getting close to the top. The best description I can say is the sound of filling up a bottle. The higher the pitch the more water is in the tank.

There is a bubble or gurgle as stated. Sinks are easier than the black. When the sink drains like a hair clog and then bubbles I know it’s getting close. The black you can visually see when the water is at the flange.
BauerAP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2021, 04:07 PM   #14
sourdough
Site Team
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: W. Texas
Posts: 17,670
I have to say that after the 1st set of "gauges" on an RV, thinking they meant something and would tell me something....I've never looked at another one again. I just go by what I always did before the came into existence. For the black tank I've never peered down into one to look for water? level, I just listen to the sound of the flush telling me the water is up in the neck and the tell tale "bubble"....which will get bigger and bust larger the longer you wait, hopefully not too long.
__________________
Danny and Susan, wife of 56 years
2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
sourdough is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2021, 04:51 PM   #15
travelin texans
Senior Member
 
travelin texans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Picacho, Az
Posts: 6,809
Quote:
Originally Posted by sourdough View Post
I have to say that after the 1st set of "gauges" on an RV, thinking they meant something and would tell me something....I've never looked at another one again. I just go by what I always did before the came into existence. For the black tank I've never peered down into one to look for water? level, I just listen to the sound of the flush telling me the water is up in the neck and the tell tale "bubble"....which will get bigger and bust larger the longer you wait, hopefully not too long.
Same here!
Listen as you're fueling your vehicle, you'll here that sound just before the nozzles shuts off or fill a long neck bottle with liquid, that's the same type of sound you'll hear when the tank is nearing full.
My last 2 5ers I wouldn't of seen anything looking down the toilet, both had 2 45 degree fittings before the tank. Not to mention I could see all of the black tank contents I need to see through the clear fitting connected to the sewer hose.
__________________
Full-timed 10+ years
Sold '13 Redwood FB
Traded '13 GMC Denali DRW D/A
Replacement undetermined
travelin texans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-2021, 02:22 PM   #16
rlh1957
Senior Member
 
rlh1957's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Jacksonville
Posts: 536
Depending on plumbing design you might not be able to see directly into black tank. Mine makes a bend so I can’t see.
If a tank gets that full you would see water standing in the bottom of your pipe.
A full black tank is a great way to always assure a good dump. Too many black tank issues snd snells come from not dumping with enough tank liquid volume.
__________________

2020 Cougar Half Ton 29RKS Fifth Wheel
2019 F350 4WD Lariat SRW 6.7 Diesel SD
Anderson Ultimate 5th Hitch - JT Strongarm TST509 TPMS- 2200W(8)Solar Panels - 800AH BattleBorn Batteries. 3000W Victron MultiPlus II Inv. SoftStartRV on 2 AC’s - Predator 3500 generator Airlift 5000 bags
rlh1957 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
black water tank, tank, water

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Keystone RV Company or any of its affiliates in any way. Keystone RV® is a registered trademark of the Keystone RV Company.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.