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06-11-2016, 04:37 AM
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trailer king tires
Blow out 50 miles after we picked up new trailer from dealer.
No service road or exit nearby that we could see my favorite thing to do is change a tire on the side of the road.At least it was the passenger side.
Of coarse KEYSTONE said tires are not their problem have to go to trailer king rep. I will be taking the trailer to the scales today after I pick it up from the dealer the refrigerator quit working that same time.One way or another I will have new goodyear G614 tires before we go to New Mexico on vacation next month. The new trailer we bought was a 3720 so it is a heavy trailer.
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06-11-2016, 08:17 AM
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Yes..definitely go with the Goodyear tires!! We just squeezed in that upgrade during the build. Glad we did. Too many horror stories with other tires.
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06-11-2016, 09:53 AM
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Any idea what caused the failure. With out having any information I am betting on under inflation on delivery or travel after. I once picked up a brand new TT from a dealer and noted 2 low tires. It was pushed around the lot that way. I only pulled it about 90 miles but, wondered how much real life was left in them.
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06-11-2016, 10:55 AM
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Don't know how your trailer is laid out but when we blew our tire it put the fridge out because the carcass of the tire cut a line to the fridge in the slideout. Maybe yours is something along that line???
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06-11-2016, 10:56 AM
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Wow. What was the date on the tires?
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06-11-2016, 11:28 AM
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Goodyear makes a good tire, although I've had one go on a Class-C that was replaced under warranty.
For these big trailers, Maxxis and Sailun are both good options and may not cost as much as Goodyear...
50 miles.. sheesh. Great initial service experience w/Keystone, huh?
At least you're allowed to change it.. Read about someone in NY where the PD told them they're not allowed to self change a tire.. Necessitated a $700 tow bill.
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06-11-2016, 03:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcg9381
Goodyear makes a good tire, although I've had one go on a Class-C that was replaced under warranty.
For these big trailers, Maxxis and Sailun are both good options and may not cost as much as Goodyear...
50 miles.. sheesh. Great initial service experience w/Keystone, huh?
At least you're allowed to change it.. Read about someone in NY where the PD told them they're not allowed to self change a tire.. Necessitated a $700 tow bill.
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I think I would go to Sailun for a fraction of the price of a Goodyear. Yeah I know...China vs. USA, but...dang those Goodyears are expensive.
Can't change your own tire in NY. They'd have to catch me first. I think with the TrailerAid+ and my junky Craftsmen 19volt impact it would be quick.
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06-11-2016, 05:36 PM
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I have about 4000 miles on Trailer King tires. They will have about 7000 when changed this winter. Arrived at dealer with 70# and have kept 80# since.
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06-11-2016, 06:43 PM
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When you get new tires have them replace the valve stems with full metal ones and if possible have the tires filled with Nitrogen. They will not expand and contract with the heat and cold + you can go 70 MPH with them and not worry.
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06-11-2016, 07:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken / Claudia
Any idea what caused the failure. With out having any information I am betting on under inflation on delivery or travel after. I once picked up a brand new TT from a dealer and noted 2 low tires. It was pushed around the lot that way. I only pulled it about 90 miles but, wondered how much real life was left in them.
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I would bet the same thing.
When we picked up our Outback I checked the tires pressures and they were around 35 lbs on one side and 50 and 42 on the other. Was glad I didn't tow home after picking it up. We stayed at a state park a couple miles down the road from the dealer we bought from.
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06-12-2016, 08:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brantlaker
When you get new tires have them replace the valve stems with full metal ones and if possible have the tires filled with Nitrogen. They will not expand and contract with the heat and cold + you can go 70 MPH with them and not worry.
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My 5er came with metal valve stems, 70# of air, and tires rated above 65 mph but that is as fast as I pull. I run at 80# as that is the max rated.....
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06-14-2016, 09:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brantlaker
When you get new tires have them replace the valve stems with full metal ones and if possible have the tires filled with Nitrogen. They will not expand and contract with the heat and cold + you can go 70 MPH with them and not worry.
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I use 78% Nitrogen. A lot less hoopla involved, no silly claims and everyone has it!
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06-14-2016, 09:46 AM
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I'm one of those guys who runs 50-55psi when empty and 80psi when hitched/loaded. The unnecessary and not free 100% N2 would eventually become the ubiquitous, free and capable 78% N2. So...
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06-14-2016, 11:50 AM
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A search would give you "this" site to read the arguments and discussions concerning nitrogen. The website I referenced pretty much puts an end to the discussion. http://www.keystonerv.org/forums/sho...itrogen&page=3
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08-02-2016, 11:11 AM
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I know this thread is a couple months old, but I'm on edge about these tires that come on. PDI guy told me these tires are supposed to run at 65 psi. Max rating is 65 psi. I am a service manager at a Ford dealership and I have never heard of running max pressure indicated on sidewalls. Also the placard on the side of my TT says recommended tire pressure is 65psi. Confusing. Lol
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08-02-2016, 11:35 AM
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Trailer tires are built differently than passenger and truck tires.
Almost all ST tire manufacturers will state in their literature that sidewall flexing creates heat which is the biggest "enemy" for ST tires. Carlisle, in their ST tire "information and best practices" brochure http://www.carlstargroup.com/cms_fil..._Practices.pdf states: "Maintain air pressure at the maximum PSI recommended on the tire sidewall."
Many of us are "gunshy" when it comes to ST tires and don't want to risk a tire failure while towing. Keeping the tires inflated to "maximum sidewall pressure" affords less flexing, less heat buildup, increased weight capacity and, in the case of Tow Max and Goodyear Marathon tires, increasing the inflation pressure to 10PSI over the maximum sidewall rating allows the speed rating to be increased from 65MPH to 75MPH.
I'd urge you to follow the advice of your PDI technician.
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08-02-2016, 12:31 PM
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Thank you for the clarification!
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08-02-2016, 01:56 PM
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I have been running the
Carlisle Radial Trail HD Trailer Tire ST235 /80 R16 124L E1 BSB from Discount Tire for 2000 miles now. I like it that they have a speed rating of 75mph never liked the 65mph. I travel at 65mph but when passing I felt the margin was too close.
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08-03-2016, 11:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carbon33
I have been running the
Carlisle Radial Trail HD Trailer Tire ST235 /80 R16 124L E1 BSB from Discount Tire for 2000 miles now. I like it that they have a speed rating of 75mph never liked the 65mph. I travel at 65mph but when passing I felt the margin was too close.
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Carlisle also has a 235/[B]85/[B]/16 LR E ~~ the only other difference of basically the same size is 100# higher rating at 80 psi
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08-03-2016, 05:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarcS
Thank you for the clarification!
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You can type 571.110 into your search engine and read a little bit about how tire inflation pressures are set for automotive vehicles. Trailer tires are of another design and are not required to have any load capacity reserves above the vehicle’s GAWR (s). Trailer tire manufacturers support inflation pressures set at maximum sidewall pressures because of the effect dragging has on them in sharp turns (basics).
Trailer tires are not mileage tires, they are wear out/age out tires. Because of the sheer forces they must endure they are often destroyed from within, especially when under inflated, over loaded or used beyond their speed ratings. Because they are used at or near their maximums they often degrade rapidly.
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