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Old 02-07-2019, 08:16 PM   #21
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In the first pic I see, what maybe, is a wdh turned backwards laying under the rear of the van. As one that always had to dig for the "root cause" of any and all failures, the lost tire is definitely not it. Between the lift, truck/trailer combo choice and others made by the driver, I figure the lost wheel was the end result of previous decisions made by the driver.
It does look like the round weight distribution bars swung in reverse under (over being upside down) the bumper.

A lift kit if that is the case being installed likely a factor indeed.

I have no knowledge or skills on these things though so defer to your judgement on it!

The van is a 1 ton Ford E350 Econoline though so should be rated to handle the trailer tow/weight load I would have thought. Again I defer to your knowledge, skills and experience though.

The injuries were fortunately not life threatening according to the article which is fortunate for those involved!

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Old 02-08-2019, 02:32 AM   #22
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I suspect that the van did NOT have a lift kit. We all know how high late model trucks are being built from the ground. Clearances are beyond reasonable. Obviously none of us will ever actually know, but it makes for great conversation. But something Danny said also is worthy of comment. I also suspect the wheel loss was as a result of the accident. We have owned a number of F350's and E350s over the years and the wheels are held on with eight large lug bolts. I don't see a wheel coming off by any of the usual means. The vibration from loose lug nuts would just be too great and the driver wasn't loaded anywhere near max payload. Towing alot yes, but hauling a lot, no.
This has been a good thread with great pictures to follow. Thanks to those who posted.
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:28 AM   #23
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Here's what I see in wheels coming off pickups/vans/ SUVs. Some are just the tire/wheel due to loose/ broken/ missing lug nuts. When looking at the wheel you will see the lug nut holes bored out.
The other type is a tire/wheel is still attached to the axle. I understand that is due to the wheel bearing failure. I think the last is only on non floating axles. Both of those will happen as the vehicle is moving.
I did not see the wheel that is missing to see if the axle is or not on it.
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Old 02-10-2019, 07:56 AM   #24
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Old 02-10-2019, 08:08 AM   #25
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I hope you paid a visit to the installer and explained to them what happened. I don't believe a 6 or 8 lug wheel can lose all the nuts by sheer vibrational coincidence. I think it's good practice to check the lugs on both tow vehicle and trailer prior to any trip. This is why I keep a torque wrench in my truck. Five minutes for one less worry.
Oh it happens. I had a small utility trailer that I had just put a brand new wheel on and within 1/4 mile of my house it had spun all the lugnuts off. Also had a car in front of me one day that I watched as the lugnuts were spit out and the wheel went flying down the highway.
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Old 02-10-2019, 08:21 AM   #26
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There was a time when Chrysler had right hand threads on one side of the vehicle and left hand on the other. I think their theory was lug nuts would stay on rather than unscrew. Can't remember how many years they had this feature. Was a pain to try and remember what side turned which way when lug nuts were seized on the studs. I might be dating myself here.
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Old 02-10-2019, 08:36 AM   #27
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There was a time when Chrysler had right threads on one side of the vehicle and left hand on the other. I think their theory was lug nuts would stay on rather than unscrew. Can't remember how many years they had this feature. I might be dating myself here.
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Small world! They were active just 2 weeks ago on the forum. Maybe they'll give some insight on how the accident happened. Sure hope they found their little dog.
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There was a time when Chrysler had right hand threads on one side of the vehicle and left hand on the other. I think their theory was lug nuts would stay on rather than unscrew. Can't remember how many years they had this feature. Was a pain to try and remember what side turned which way when lug nuts were seized on the studs. I might be dating myself here.
Yeah had this set up on my 1st car...'63 Plymouth, not sure when they stopped doing this but the '82 van did not have the left handed threads.
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