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07-08-2022, 07:58 AM
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Schwintek Slide Owners
Our master bedroom slide in our 2022 Fuzion 428 stopped working. Brought it in and it sounds like our camper is part of a recall. It was unclear if it's been announced yet. I had not seen anything in the mail regarding it.
I guess Schwintek owners be on the lookout.
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07-08-2022, 12:11 PM
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Any idea what recall? I couldn’t find any information about it.
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07-08-2022, 12:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckster57
Any idea what recall? I couldn’t find any information about it.
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I don’t know. Was there anything about slides?
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07-08-2022, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wifi_guy
I don’t know. Was there anything about slides?
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It sounded like you were talking about a recall on the schwintek system.
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07-08-2022, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckster57
It sounded like you were talking about a recall on the schwintek system.
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I was assuming that’s what they were referring to they were kind of vague when they said there’s a recall on it.
Was there any recall regarding master bedroom slides or anything like that?
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07-08-2022, 02:27 PM
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I don’t know. I don’t work in a dealership service department any more. I’m in an auto/rv collision center, a complete change of work for me. Some diagnostic duties but more cutting up filon sides, pulling sheet metal and welding stuff back together.
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Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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07-08-2022, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckster57
I don’t know. I don’t work in a dealership service department any more. I’m in an auto/rv collision center, a complete change of work for me. Some diagnostic duties but more cutting up filon sides, pulling sheet metal and welding stuff back together.
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I'm guessing Keystone doesn't publish these anywhere?
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07-08-2022, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by wifi_guy
I'm guessing Keystone doesn't publish these anywhere?
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Read this thread and post #21
https://www.keystoneforums.com/forum...104#post508104
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07-08-2022, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wifi_guy
I'm guessing Keystone doesn't publish these anywhere?
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If it’s a keystone recall, it would be on the keystone website. If it’s a Lippert recall it would be on the Lippert website. Whoever initiated the recall would send letters to the affected owners.
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07-08-2022, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sourdough
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There we go! Exactly my situation. So this sounds like a schwintek issue. I saw on youtube, there are some good shwintek replacement options. I might look into this. Sounds like lots of people have issue with Shwintek.
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07-08-2022, 02:52 PM
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07-08-2022, 02:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckster57
If it’s a keystone recall, it would be on the keystone website. If it’s a Lippert recall it would be on the Lippert website. Whoever initiated the recall would send letters to the affected owners.
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Schwintek is Lippert, isn't it?
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07-08-2022, 03:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wifi_guy
There we go! Exactly my situation. So this sounds like a schwintek issue. I saw on youtube, there are some good shwintek replacement options. I might look into this. Sounds like lots of people have issue with Shwintek.
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I read that thread and it sounds more like the trailer frame twisting causing the schwintek system to not operate correctly. If that’s the case it’s a Keystone issue.
I have been working on schwintek slides for over 10 years and while it has a few quirks, it is IMO a very reliable system.
For the record, there is a lot of different slide systems and I have had to work on just about every one of them. My favorite is electric through frame.
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07-08-2022, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wifi_guy
Schwintek is Lippert, isn't it?
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Yes it is, along with other systems.
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Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
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07-08-2022, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckster57
I read that thread and it sounds more like the trailer frame twisting causing the schwintek system to not operate correctly. If that’s the case it’s a Keystone issue.
I have been working on schwintek slides for over 10 years and while it has a few quirks, it is IMO a very reliable system.
For the record, there is a lot of different slide systems and I have had to work on just about every one of them. My favorite is electric through frame.
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This camper is the first camper we have had with this type of slide. The only thing I don't like about it, minus this issue of course is when you let off the button, it keeps going like a 1/4 of an inch or so.
Is that normal?
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07-08-2022, 03:43 PM
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If you let go of the button before it gets to the “end of travel” the control box simply cuts of power to the motors and they may “glide” a small amount depending on the weight of the slide. The reason you should let the slide FULLy move and keep the button pressed is so the controller can sense amp draw and keep the motors synched.
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07-08-2022, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckster57
If you let go of the button before it gets to the “end of travel” the control box simply cuts of power to the motors and they may “glide” a small amount depending on the weight of the slide. The reason you should let the slide FULLy move and keep the button pressed is so the controller can sense amp draw and keep the motors synched.
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So wait, I should keep my finger on the button and let it go as far as it needs/wants to and it will shut it self off? That won't damage anything?
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07-08-2022, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wifi_guy
So wait, I should keep my finger on the button and let it go as far as it needs/wants to and it will shut it self off? That won't damage anything?
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Assuming you have no other issues like trailer wall tweaked, it’s designed to be ran until the motors amp out and the controller shuts the motors off.
When the slide reaches end of travel and the motors try to move the room, the amps go up and the controller senses that and shuts off the power to the motors.
The amount of force needed for the controller is adjustable but NOT by a customer. Lippert will tell you it’s preset and not adjustable.
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07-08-2022, 03:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wifi_guy
So wait, I should keep my finger on the button and let it go as far as it needs/wants to and it will shut it self off? That won't damage anything?
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From the owner's manual:
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07-17-2022, 07:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wifi_guy
So wait, I should keep my finger on the button and let it go as far as it needs/wants to and it will shut it self off? That won't damage anything?
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Yes that is correct. Hold the bottom forn5 seconds when you send your slide out and bring it in. This keeps the motors synched up.
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