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Old 02-28-2020, 01:53 PM   #1
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Help with tv and tt weights

Hi!
First post ever, but here goes.
No, it looks like my second post.....
Looking to decode tv rating sticker.
Attached truck rating sticker. Will have to type in tt info as i cant seem to attach photo of sticker in tt cabinet.

Gvwr= 7600lbs
Uvw= 5600lbs

There are some minuses for lp and fresh water, but this should get us close to the answer. Thankyou all for your help!!!
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Old 02-28-2020, 03:46 PM   #2
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Whats the yellow/white Tire and Loading sticker on the door jamb say.
It should be something about passengers and cargo loading. Like 1700-2000 lbs
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Old 02-28-2020, 04:51 PM   #3
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Based on your vin you have a 2011 F150
Gross Vehicle weight Rating GVWR 7200 pounds.
The payload sticker is probably not accurate at this point as I'm sure there have been modifcations to a 9 year old truck.

Load your vehicle with you and everyone and everytihg you think you will load in the truck for camping.

Fill up the fuel tank an go to a scale and weigh the truck.

7200 (GVWR) - the scaled weight - 100 pounds or so for a Weight Distribution Hitch (WDH)
gives you the remaining capacity

That number divied by 0.13 will tell you the expected GVWR for a trailer.

Example
7200 - imaginary scalled weight of 6100 - 100 for WDH
= 1000 pounds remaing capacity.
1000/0.13 = 7692

0.13 (13 percent) of the trailer weight is a good estimation number to use for targeting tongue weight since it reduces the possibility of trailer sway.

Avoid dry weights and brochure tongue weights as well as "Towing Capacities"

1/2 ton trucks almost always get stuck at the payload as the lowest number.
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Old 02-28-2020, 06:21 PM   #4
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I am waiting on that info. I own the trailer, and am considering the truck.
Photo of yellow sticker has been promised soon.
I thought that that was going to be important.
Will post it when i get it, and we can continue then.
Thanks for responding, watch for more info.
Truck belongs now to a freind. Is still orig, and has tow package.
It hauled a 22' sea ray for me a few years ago. Not sure of boat wt, but it didnt seem to mind the 75 mile trip on the highway. Stopping was not a chore, but i was cautious with not waiting till the last minuet to stop.
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Old 02-28-2020, 10:02 PM   #5
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Need to realize towing boats or low profile utility trailers, which is what's used to achieve truck towing weights, is night/day difference than towing a big heavy square 28-30' long box several feet above the truck with zero aerodynamics.
If buying a truck, pick the RV first then buy more truck than you need for that rv, odds are in a couple years you'll be looking at bigger better RVs. BTDT!
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Old 02-28-2020, 10:23 PM   #6
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Well, before you buy take the truck and trailer loaded as you would when using the RV to a scale and get real world weights. I bet is your going to be over on payload and maybe tire max wt.. Only the scale will tell you. Being a friend I would think he would understand.
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Old 04-09-2020, 05:46 AM   #7
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Thanks for all the input!
Short story is that truck not available anyway. Then comes along this gmc...
My next question involves underlined numbers on attached photo. Why is there multiple ratings?
Photo is of gmc vin lookup results.
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Old 04-09-2020, 06:08 AM   #8
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I'd guess it's the different hitch class ratings:
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Class Basic Use Gross Trailer Weight (lbs)
I Light-Duty 2000
II Moderate-Duty 3,500
III Versatile/Mix 3,500-6,000
IV Heavy-Duty 10-12,000
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Old 04-09-2020, 06:28 AM   #9
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Why are you even looking at a 1/2 ton tow vehicle!!! Go directly to a 3/4 Ton and eliminate this entire conversation and disappointment on the road.
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Old 04-09-2020, 06:54 AM   #10
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I would agree that a 1/2 ton truck will most likely be at the "limit" pulling your trailer which you list as 2003 Springdale 266RL. Best I can figure is the gross wt is 7600 lbs. Take 13% or 7600 X .13 = 988 tongue weight. So take that "remaining cargo capacity" of most 1/2 ton trucks and I'm guessing you will be near maxed out if not over.

Considering you're trailer is 17 years old now, I'd go looking at a 3/4 ton truck. Better towing experience now with more options in the future for what you may want to tow.
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Old 04-09-2020, 07:57 AM   #11
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If you look at the "engine type" listing on that "snippet" you'll see three different engines listed. That tells me that since no truck has three engines, the "multiple ratings" are a comprehensive listing of all capacities for the model run, not for any ONE specific vehicle...

It's the same with all manufacturer's brochure/advertising specifications. They list the "maximums for the model run" not the "maximums for a specific vehicle within the model run"....

That said, I agree with the above comments. WHY EVEN LOOK AT HALF TON'S????

By the time you add your tongue weight, hitch weight and passenger weight, you're either going to be "at payload" or "overloaded" with any half ton from any manufacturer. Cut to the chase, realize that with a 16-17 year old trailer, if you like RVing, you're going to upgrade the trailer in the next year or so and NOBODY goes down in size, so your "current barely adequate problem" will become "tomorrow's NIGHTMARE".....

Do it right the first time, it's significantly less expensive that way !!!!!
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Old 04-09-2020, 08:06 AM   #12
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IMHO skip the 3/4 ton & go to a 1 ton SRW, very little difference in price, fuel economy & ride & you'll be set for your next upgrade to possibly a good sized 5th wheel or larger TT.
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Old 04-09-2020, 04:46 PM   #13
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All very good points.
With the last bargain not going to happen, looks like there is a chance to reset my sights. The gmc was my next, but not last option.
Thanks for the input!!
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