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Old 03-18-2023, 04:32 PM   #1
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I have a 2006 Zepplin z291 in it full time the other night no rhyme or reason all the power stopped working no breakers tripped reset them all still no power. No AC power or DC power I have tried all the trouble shooting and still no power any suggestions it has anyone else had this issue before?
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Old 03-18-2023, 04:37 PM   #2
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I have a 2006 Zepplin z291 in it full time the other night no rhyme or reason all the power stopped working no breakers tripped reset them all still no power. No AC power or DC power I have tried all the trouble shooting and still no power any suggestions it has anyone else had this issue before?
sounds like your batteries are dead or battery switch is off for one thing and you lost power wherever your plugged in..or the converter quit altogether if you didn’t have any batteries in the unit and it was running off of the converter only
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Old 03-18-2023, 04:44 PM   #3
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First thing to check is the power coming into the trailer. Using the proper test equipment, verify you have 120VAC at the outlet. Post back and we will go to the next step.
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Old 03-18-2023, 04:59 PM   #4
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You experienced a power failure. Do you have an EMS (electrical management system)? You say this happened "the other night", is it still off..came back on or what? If you don't have an EMS a VOM will tell you where the issue is if you have one and can use it.
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Old 03-18-2023, 06:02 PM   #5
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I thought it was the converter and replaced it , now it acts as if there is not enough power have a power block for cell phone charging which will light up then slowly fade away. The cooling fan for the new converter is not even turning on.
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Old 03-18-2023, 06:03 PM   #6
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Do you know where the battery switch would be did not know there was one.
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Old 03-18-2023, 06:08 PM   #7
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Have you made sure you have 120 VAC coming into the trailer?
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Old 03-18-2023, 06:56 PM   #8
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You need 120vac coming in (shore power from electrical outlet) for the converter fan to run. The converter uses the shore power to charge the batteries and can provide some 12vac. if not a heavy load. Your converter has nothing to do with your incoming AC power but if you don't have AC power, and haven't had, your batteries are dead as well. What exactly are your circumstances?
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Old 03-18-2023, 07:24 PM   #9
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We are plugged in to shore power there is power coming off the pole to the cord but nothing in the camper everything was working perfectly nothing happened and all the power went out at a complete loss of why this happened there was no weather or any changes.
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Have you tried turning all the breakers OFF completely and then back on?
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Old 03-18-2023, 09:48 PM   #11
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Yes reset all breakers, even the breaker for the shoreline.
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Old 03-19-2023, 03:12 AM   #12
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read post #7 and #8 again..you need to verify you have 120 volts coming in to the trailer….someone with a meter needs to check the shore power properly…just because it’s plugged in doesn’t mean a thing… check both sides of the shore power cord also..could be a bad cord
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Old 03-19-2023, 06:03 AM   #13
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Yes, as we've mentioned several times you have to have 120vac from your power pole. HOW do you know you have 120vac? I am assuming your trailer is 35A or is it a 20A rig?? If you don't have an EMS a VOM is a must, or at least some sort of test equipment to see what happened to the 120vac. Just because there is a plug on the pole and you're plugged in doesn't mean a thing if there isn't any voltage at the plug.
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Old 03-23-2023, 07:27 AM   #14
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electrical issue

I have a keystone sprinter 5th wheel. The battery disconnect is usually on the panel with all your slide buttons or, like mine, two round red knobs behind and below the battery. Twist them one-way and it shows a green color for connected, red color for disconnected. Easy to miss. I had a minor power issue with a 125volt GFI that kept tripping. Turned out the plug on end of power cord was faulty. The EMS showed everything OK at power pole but a voltmeter showed one of the blades on plug connected to EMS was out. Try someone else's power cord or buy one. If it's not the issue you can always return it.
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Sorry for the delay in responding I had gotten a meter and I have 120v AC at the pole and the weird thing is that at the panel on the inside on the AC side where the breakers are , I checked for power at the breakers and have 120v AC there also but still nothing in the camper. I did check the GFI in the bathroom as I remembered that if that would trip the power would go out, it’s not tripped but I also cannot test it as no power to try and test it.
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Old 04-01-2023, 05:32 AM   #16
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The GFCI circuit is probably only coming off one breaker. The GFCI outlet is required in wet areas and there are likely a few outlets that are on this line. I suggest you unplug power at the pole and check the connections at the power center. Since all power is out, most likely the connection to the neutral block is loose. Check black connection at the main breaker, etc. Sounds like a loose wire may be the culprit. The reason you should do this with the power at the outside source disconnected is that it unsafe not to do so. Are you at a park or connected to a private source. Check to ensure wiring is snug and the 30A breaker is good if private.
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Old 04-11-2023, 11:35 AM   #17
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Ok I have found something really weird I was testing voltage at the breakers when I got to the third breaker had positive lead on the breaker and the negative on the negative side on the panel there was a little spark and my power came on, as soon as I remove the leads power goes back out. Any ideas?
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Old 04-11-2023, 12:01 PM   #18
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Replace the breaker. There is something failed in it and you should not see a spark outside the body of the breaker.
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That’s what I am thinking a bad breaker
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Old 04-11-2023, 02:13 PM   #20
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Ok I have found something really weird I was testing voltage at the breakers when I got to the third breaker had positive lead on the breaker and the negative on the negative side on the panel there was a little spark and my power came on, as soon as I remove the leads power goes back out. Any ideas?
may be a loose neutral wire ….for instance if you touch the pos lead of tester on the breaker hot wire and touch the other on the neutral buss and hit a loose wire for that breaker you may be pushing it tighter and voila you have a good hot and neutral connection now for that circuit..that would explain the spark also

make sure the breaker is snapped in tight also to the buss bar
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