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Old 05-19-2021, 04:20 AM   #1
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Colonial Pipeline Act II

Problems with fuel supply in the Southeast US appear to continue...


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/co...cid=uxbndlbing
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Old 05-20-2021, 06:07 AM   #2
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Good article George.
I guess all the "chatter' on this is on the other thread of same subject. You might consider posting this article there.
I will add, and I am sure it was mentioned somewhere, that for a major pipeline running through one of the nations busiest airports (ATL) I never heard of any interruptions in service to Delta Airlines due to fuel shortages. Guess the airlines get a "pass" on shortages just like they do on required "social distancing" in seating configurations. Just sayin...
Pretty evident this "shutdown" was orchestrated to affect only one service corridor and I think Russia was as surprised as anyone to find out they were involved. Since when does Russian greed stop at $5M? Hmmm, if not the Russians then who would do such a thing? Yeah, the White House. Any way to put a dent in carbon emissions, even for a few days is considered a win. And what a great way to manipulate the market price, which will continue to rise and become unaffordable, again to reduce YOUR carbon footprint, but their private jets will still be flying above you.
Keep the subjects in the kingdom masked, distant and injected with our "secret serum" and all will be fine. And all "the sheep" are following this shepherd? Will not all.
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Old 05-20-2021, 07:41 AM   #3
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Good article George.
I guess all the "chatter' on this is on the other thread of same subject. You might consider posting this article there.
I will add, and I am sure it was mentioned somewhere, that for a major pipeline running through one of the nations busiest airports (ATL) I never heard of any interruptions in service to Delta Airlines due to fuel shortages. Guess the airlines get a "pass" on shortages just like they do on required "social distancing" in seating configurations. Just sayin...
Pretty evident this "shutdown" was orchestrated to affect only one service corridor and I think Russia was as surprised as anyone to find out they were involved. Since when does Russian greed stop at $5M? Hmmm, if not the Russians then who would do such a thing? Yeah, the White House. Any way to put a dent in carbon emissions, even for a few days is considered a win. And what a great way to manipulate the market price, which will continue to rise and become unaffordable, again to reduce YOUR carbon footprint, but their private jets will still be flying above you.
Keep the subjects in the kingdom masked, distant and injected with our "secret serum" and all will be fine. And all "the sheep" are following this shepherd? Will not all.
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You sound like you don't feel safe in the hands and care of our benevolent gubbermint! Hang on, I am going down to the mail box and see if they sent me another check so I don't have to work! God bless America...
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Old 05-20-2021, 01:47 PM   #4
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I think about 10 years ago Delta bought a refinery to hedge against volatile fuel prices. I have no idea how that is working for them. Also have no clue how that works logistically.
Since there was less a shortage of diesel I would assume the same for jet fuel. Who knows why...more storage maybe?
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Old 05-20-2021, 02:32 PM   #5
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I don't have any "inside information" but it would seem logical to me that if there were any capacity reduction either in refining or transporting that Jet-A and deisel would be top priorities to keep major transportation and military mobility going.
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Old 05-20-2021, 02:37 PM   #6
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I don't know, the whole thing just didn't sound right from the start. I know our infrastructure has vulnerabilities and ransomwares have wreaked havoc on municipalities around the nation, but I would have expected an entity like Colonial to ahead of any cyber threats based on previous preventive actions taken by those other victims.
I kept waiting to see reports of flight cancellations and delays (based on fuel shortages) at major airports along the pipeline(s) route, but nothing. It is my understanding this pipeline(s) does transport jet fuel as well as vehicle products, and it has been stated that this pipeline has manual overrides in place to overcome this type of threat or any leakage scenarios. I could be wrong, I am not an expert on this topic but you just really have to listen to what you are being told by the media these days. Does seems like "pipelines" are making news these days, one to be completed (Keystone) is shutdown. Another one operating (Colonial), shutdown.
And another one that had construction halted (sanctions) and is very near completion, is given the green light to be finished. This pipeline is in Russia and evidently the priority is to ensure that Russia has economy and jobs.
It just seems like every time you turn around another "control mechanism" is unleashed upon the masses. I'm sure they have a whole grab bag of social engineering goodies in store. Question is how much can you tolerate? Me, not so much.
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Old 05-20-2021, 02:58 PM   #7
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I believe Delta Airlines (Memphis' most hated corporate group) bought Monroe Energy about ten years ago and it has fallen flat and they can't find a buyer. I feel so badly for them...
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Old 05-20-2021, 03:11 PM   #8
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I may get deleted for saying this, but the gooberment can't control movement by quarantine, so the gooberment decided to stop movement of people by shutting down fuel. Think about it? I'm a conspiracy thinker.
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I just try not to overthink it. Since I don't have any inside info, I'll be a sheeple and go along with what the mainstream media is peddling.
I can't recall any other pipeline that has been hacked. That sounds like a pretty good record to me. But no telling how much infrastructure has been hacked that we never heard of.
The other pipeline issues..TransCanada and the Russian one are the result of the voting booth. That IS something we should work on.
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Old 05-20-2021, 06:43 PM   #10
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You sound like you don't feel safe in the hands and care of our benevolent gubbermint! Hang on, I am going down to the mail box and see if they sent me another check so I don't have to work! God bless America...
LOL!
Well it seems the biggest roadblock to businesses reopening is finding people willing to work, instead of sitting at home collecting unemployment. While many suffered financial hardship during the pandemic, others with the unemployment kicker of $600 a week were doing better than working with none of the cost of working. That $600 a week kicker was the equivalent of a 40 hour week at $15 an hour.
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LOL!
Well it seems the biggest roadblock to businesses reopening is finding people willing to work, instead of sitting at home collecting unemployment. While many suffered financial hardship during the pandemic, others with the unemployment kicker of $600 a week were doing better than working with none of the cost of working. That $600 a week kicker was the equivalent of a 40 hour week at $15 an hour.

Talking to a receptionist at my dealership discussing the backup of repairs to be made, things sort of just "stopped". She said it's the welfare (unemployment) pay they are getting for what will probably be from now on. Common sense folks would not endorse a $15 hr. minimum wage so.....folks were put out of work due to no fault of their own. They were making was less than $15hr. and the timeline for that "unemployment" pay keeps getting extended (equals $15 hr.). She said the problem for them (and most others) is that those furloughed due to "covid" won't come back. They like the extra money to just sit at home. She chose to come to work and get back to her job. The situation in my mind speaks to society, the "I want mine for free", "I don't want to do anything but I want yours" mentality. It's not political; it's societal.
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Old 05-20-2021, 07:33 PM   #12
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In case you were not aware, Gov. Abbott is refusing the federal bucks for Texans amounting to $300 extra to get folks back to work. Restaurants are having a heck of a time finding folks to work. The DQ in Bandera was closed last time we went by as they were short staffed. A local Italian place in Bandera wanted to open a 2nd restaurant in Lakehills but is not able to due to staffing shortages. Lots of local businesses have help wanted signs. Guess there are few takers. Perhaps the gubbermint handouts are not really a blessing but perhaps a curse.
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We saw a sign at a Mexican restaurant in Fort Lauderdale last week:
"Help wanted. Even long-haired freaky people can apply."
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A disscussion about fuel and it's cost has evolved into many other issues surrounding the topic. Good, it is great to hear the wisdom that all bring to this forum. I think all can agree, things have changed since January 20th and not for the better.
Jobs, yes many are available and as stated many are going unfilled because incentives developed out of panic are still in place. Well the panic is over but agendas are still in place. Open the border, those people fill the jobs and in time through executive order (I'm sure) become "grateful" voters. As for the "legal" applicants, they will remain under a blanket of socialist intent until the wealth of this country is disbursed and class separation is achieved. All very calculated and planned. And for the record, your (our) large fuel guzzling TV and the "palace" of freedom you pull behind will be earmarked as unnecessary (for you) and probably be "purchased", towed, and set up for those previously mentioned voters. You think your wealth is safe? Think again.
Stop this disaster at the voting booth? Well that didn't go so well last time did it. When the integrity of that process is compromised you can see the result.
The answer? I hate to say it (or see it) but what we saw in elections in post war Iraq may be coming to a theater near you. One "faction" has developed methods to control the process internally, the other side will have to deliver externally. It wont be pretty but there will not be a choice.
And no I am not a conspiracy zealot. I am just seeing (and identifying) a dangerous pattern here.
Two things have surprised me here, one is that the "events" of January 6th have not resurfaced and two, the life of this thread.
And oh yes Jim, a sign. A friend of mine in Nevada said he saw where a guy put up a new sheet of 3/4" plywood on the roadside with a sign offering to trade (the plywood) for a late model Corvette.
Hope it doesn't come to that!

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I'll make an attempt at keeping politics out of this. I'll just say this, the older I get the less I believe in coincidence and the more I look at "who stands to benefit". Look at who finances the campaigns, like folks who own major railroads that transports oil in tens of thousands of rail cars. Look at WHO they back during elections and what the actions of those people are towards pipelines and oil drilling after taking office.

I also find the "coincidences" of the current pipeline shutdowns (both north and south) whether intentional or hacked to be in question when the pipeline in Russia was then approved/endorsed. Now, how can an eastern European energy company and our Executive Branch of Gov. be "RELATED"? (clue ... related is a double entendre). Not conspiratorial, just observational.
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We saw a sign at a Mexican restaurant in Fort Lauderdale last week:
"Help wanted. Even long-haired freaky people can apply."
LOL! Sounds like someone there was listening to music "back when"....

And the sign said
"Long-haired freaky people
Need not apply"
So I tucked my hair up under my hat....
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