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Old 04-06-2020, 12:41 PM   #1
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Exclamation Really bad water damage! Help!

I've read quite a few threads here but none seem to have what we have going on. I also didn't see any solutions.

We have a 2004 (?) Keystone Hornet. It came with a lake lot we recently purchased, therefore don't know too much about it.

I'm in Wisconsin and the camper had been outside (with the slides in) for a couple of years. Looks like when the slides are in water runs down the corners of the slides and has rotted away the main flooring. Any reason as to why this would happen? How to fix?
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Old 04-06-2020, 03:26 PM   #2
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Welcome aboard...I wish your introduction to this forum was under better circumstances.

This shouldn't happen if the seals are where they belong and are in good condition. But they are 16 years old. Who knows the last time they were inspected. Also, who knows what the previous owner neglected to disclose.

The fix may require some major surgery on the rotten wood and rebuilding the damaged parts. But before that happens the slide seals should be reseated/resealed or replaced and properly installed.
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Old 04-06-2020, 05:32 PM   #3
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Unfortunately, if the damage is as extensive as you are saying, it might be cheaper to replace it with a used or newer trailer. I went online and found some for as low as less than $5,000. Unless you are capable of doing your own repairs, this could be a very expensive repair, and you likely will find additional damage that will require much more work than just the floor.
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Old 04-06-2020, 07:41 PM   #4
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As others have mentioned, I would think long and hard about doing extensive repairs to the trailer - it can get very expensive very fast. Keep in mind just pulling up a quick NADA "guess" at the value it puts it at maybe $6k; and that is for the 295bh, the largest hornet listed for that year. If it's smaller, it's less.
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Old 04-07-2020, 03:31 AM   #5
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Honestly if you want a "lake house" buy a used mobile home, a lot more room and less issues. The pictures you posted look like some nasty mold that very well could extend inside the walls. I would not take on that project unless you have the skills, the help (removing slides is not a one man job), and a LOT of time and was looking for something to do. At the age certainly not worth the expense to pay for labor.

I'd suggest "parting it out" by selling the appliances but not much worth there at that age, and donate it to a local volunteer fire dept. for a "control burn" for training. I know that's not what you want to hear but that's my honest assessment.
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Old 04-07-2020, 07:51 AM   #6
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As others have mentioned, I would think long and hard about doing extensive repairs to the trailer - it can get very expensive very fast. Keep in mind just pulling up a quick NADA "guess" at the value it puts it at maybe $6k; and that is for the 295bh, the largest hornet listed for that year. If it's smaller, it's less.
With that kind of mold & water damage it wouldn't be a wise investment to try to repair it. Take the loss & put the repair money on a better unit.
Personally wouldn't give $600 for it.
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Old 04-07-2020, 08:29 AM   #7
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In the OP's first post, he stated this:
"We have a 2004 (?) Keystone Hornet. It came with a lake lot we recently purchased, therefore don't know too much about it."

I'd suspect the the "lake lot seller" knew what the trailer was worth, and that's why it was included in the purchase. For him, it was likely a "perk for the unaware buyer" and "cheaper to just leave it than to tow it to the junkyard and pay to throw it away".....

Looking at the photos, on a 15 year old RV, that amount of damage is probably just the "tip of the iceberg" and once a rebuild project is started, even with the owner doing all the work, just buying materials to do the job right will cost much more than the "rebuilt trailer" would be worth.

So, if you do it, do it as a "labor of love" or a "just to prove I can" certainly don't attempt it as a "wise investment"... It'll never be worth what you'll have invested in it, probably not even close.....
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Old 04-07-2020, 03:53 PM   #8
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Yeah, I will echo others; owners probably threw it in with the lot because they didn't want the expense and hassle of hauling it to the dump. A 16 year old rig that has been sitting on a lake lot could easily (likely?) have other roof issues in other parts of the trailer too, not even discussing the damage you showed us. Sell the appliances, strip it down, have a campfire with the wood, and take the metal exterior, frame, and axles to a metal recycler. Just my opinion, especially if you didn't pay anything for it and don't know much about it.
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Old 04-07-2020, 07:42 PM   #9
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If the camper came with the lot and is going to remain there, I would talk with a local carpenter. He/She should be able to repair the damage and make the camper livable, especially if the camper will not be towed and only remain stationary.
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Old 04-10-2020, 05:59 PM   #10
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a controlled Burn,then scrap the rest of it that does not burn up.
just a suggestion.
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Old 04-10-2020, 06:01 PM   #11
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after selling all that is worth selling.
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Old 04-11-2020, 04:20 AM   #12
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a controlled Burn,then scrap the rest of it that does not burn up.
just a suggestion.
In Texas, it is illegal to have a "controlled burn" of an RV as you suggested. They give off a lot of toxic stink fumes and folks that burn an RV or old house trailer are breaking the law. To get rid of the thing, he will have to find a carrier to drag it to a dump that accepts junk RVs.
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Old 04-12-2020, 07:39 AM   #13
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I’m with everyone else, for the price or time
of the repair, I would build a tiny house and salvage what you can out of the rv and put in your new home, refer, stove, etc.
Or, just throw some new carpet down and hope you get a few more years out of it before the floor falls through.
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Old 04-12-2020, 08:44 AM   #14
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Can be done

If you have time & want to tackle can be done here's a prowler slide out I rebuilt floor & roof was rotted
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Old 04-12-2020, 08:50 AM   #15
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Old 04-12-2020, 09:07 AM   #16
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Floor damage

In 2009
my then 5 year old prowler had similar floor damage which I was able to successfully repair myself (you did not say if this is something you could tackle)
Damage was caused from the side window frame leaking into the floor and belly
We removed the rotted deck and floor joists crippling them to viable joists farther down the floor, then replaced decking and floor covering also found damage in wall to and repaired that
Using my own labor cost was several hundred dollars
If you are unable or unwilling to repair replacing the trailer as others suggest is a viable option
Good Luck
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Old 04-12-2020, 09:26 AM   #17
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bad water damage?

nic to see the last few posts were not from people afraid of some work. I just had the same damage on a trailer I recently bought.I lowered the outside of the slide,jacked up the inside at floor 2 inches then cut out & replaced the floor & a couple of soft joists. total labor time was less then a weekend & under $150.00. but then I am a carpenter so that helped. Dont be afraid of a little work people-get out from behind the desk once in a while.
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Old 04-12-2020, 04:39 PM   #18
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Same Situation on new Rig

Just did the same repair on my 2019 Fuzion. Water was getting in through the slide trim around the outside wall at the bottom piece. Water getting in whether the slide was in or out. Manufacture was just plain stingy with the caulking. Watched some YouTube videos and did the repair myself. Not rocket science. Got the trailer in deal, what’s there to loose in trying to fix it yourself.
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Old 04-13-2020, 07:29 AM   #19
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The Long Beach area on the South Wa. coast has many RVs on private lots. Most of them the selling price includes the RV at no value, if the RV is more than 10 years old. I owned 2 lots over 15 years. I am not afraid to fix homes, car, rvs, or anything I own. But sometimes the time and costs are just not worth it. The second lot I purchased had a TT on it. No one had been inside it in 5 years, a 1964 Airstream 28ft. Although it would have been a great trailer for rebuilding/fixing, at 140 miles from home or spending all of my time for maybe the following 2 summers. I gave it away and started over with a brand new 28 ft TT as a guest unit. The best choice, I came up with and still think so. That new trailer was sold to make room for my house 6 years later for about 75% of the cost I paid for it. It looked almost new and went to another lot in the area.
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Old 04-14-2020, 12:36 PM   #20
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Check Love Your RV on YouTube

There is a video on repairing the floor!
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