Enough truck

[FBO Cookie Monster]

Originally Posted by notanlines

Well, then how about a coal train, 92 cars, 20 million pounds, pulled/pushed by only four engines at about 1 million pounds. Same thing?

Nope. Until we have tracks for our rv’s

[NMRandy]

Originally Posted by notanlines

Well, then how about a coal train, 92 cars, 20 million pounds, pulled/pushed by only four engines at about 1 million pounds. Same thing?

I think there was a TV commercial like that!!! LOL

How many feet/miles does it take to stop that from 65 mph??

And I don't think the wind affects them very much, and they likely won't blow a tire!! LOL

[crowbar]

I'm with John on this. I think this f150 "properly equipped" would have no trouble with that Airstream. My trailer gvw is 7525 lbs. and when I get on the highway, I put the transmission in "tow/haul" mode and set the cruise control at 60-65 and enjoy the ride. The 6 speed transmission looks after the rest. And the newer trucks have a 10 speed transmission which would even be superior. I wouldn't put a 5th wheel behind it or a trailer over 8000 lbs. but it does an awesome job with my combination.

[markcee]

Agree that a good number of F150's can tow (and stay within ratings) a 7500 GVWR TT....even many non-HDPP models.

I had 1873 lbs of payload on my max tow XLT and was able to (just barely) stay within payload and rear axle ratings. Our trailer was loaded up to 8300 lbs. It was being at the limit however, coupled with the 34' trailer length - that made me beef up the truck. I just didn't feel comfortable pulling that size rig long distances. Plus, I couldn't put much of anything in the bed of the truck!

[sourdough]

As Mark said there probably are several 1/2 ton trucks, properly equipped, that can tow a 7500gvwr trailer and stay within weight ratings - especially the way they are jumping them up now (gvw/payload). They can because I've done it....and done it overloaded too.

I got so tired of leaving stuff behind, culling, picking and choosing....putting the dog on a diet, that I finally said to heck with it and began towing overweight (200lbs.). On a 1/2 ton I was getting close to max tow, gawr etc. The braking was terrible (new trailer/new truck). Just being so close to the max numbers had me worried sick. I gave up and got a HD truck (I just did not want a harsh riding HD truck and was holding out with a 1/2 ton).

Whether towing within weights or not the difference between a HD truck towing the same trailer and a 1/2 ton is no comparison. Control is better as well. So, can some tow a trailer 34 +' long and 7500-8000lbs. gvw and stay within weights? I'm sure there are some. When a trailer gets that big will a heavier truck do a better, safer job? No doubt.

[wiredgeorge]

I suggest the forum gang start a new forum area called "HALF TON ONLY". The half ton truck owners can post there about their eco-boosts (et al) and no one else. Of course the 1/2 ton tribe will not be able to post about towing or payload in any other forum area. This might slow down the perpetual 1/2 ton can tow the Queen Mary hype.

[Gegrad]

Yep, a properly equipped F-150 will have no problem with a 25' AS, especially since they are more aerodynamic than any Keystone product. Hey, you have to get something for that $100k price tag... But to tow that thing without a WDH, especially w/o sway control? Good lord stay as far away from him as you can.

[Badbart56]

Originally Posted by FBO Cookie Monster

To follow on to that line of logic; How is it that large over the road semis or (gasp!) semis pulling double trailers manage? 12,000 lbs hauling 80,000+ pounds?

Not really a fair comparison but on the semi's we put up to 34K pounds of that 80K pounds on the drive axles.

[Jmelvin]

Originally Posted by FBO Cookie Monster

To follow on to that line of logic; How is it that large over the road semis or (gasp!) semis pulling double trailers manage? 12,000 lbs hauling 80,000+ pounds?

Most Semi's today weigh 18-22 thousand pounds (some with custom sleepers weigh up to 28 thou). Depends on whether they are day cab or sleeper. Also some Airstreams have electric over hydraulic disc brakes. which really outclass the electric brakes most trailers come with. A sensible person driving this pickup would probably be quite safe.

[Falcon67]

LOL - first thing you do as a Ford truck shopper is go here, before you even start "Build and Price" - the Ford Fleet Towing Guide tells everything you need to know.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/content/d...owingGuide.pdf

[Falcon67]

I'll throw this in for Ford people - an F-250 with the base 6.2L will pull more than the 3.5L Ecoboost. With the same XLT Premium package and a few other common options, the 250 is cheaper. Cheaper by a couple thousand. With the 7.3L and 10 speed you're looking at 14K trailer and under 50K build and price. You won't find one on the lot, but you can order one.

[markcee]

Originally Posted by Falcon67

I'll throw this in for Ford people - an F-250 with the base 6.2L will pull more than the 3.5L Ecoboost. With the same XLT Premium package and a few other common options, the 250 is cheaper. Cheaper by a couple thousand. With the 7.3L and 10 speed you're looking at 14K trailer and under 50K build and price. You won't find one on the lot, but you can order one.

Good point....initially purchased a new '19 F150 XLT with max tow. When I realized I undersized on the truck I traded it in for a new '19 F350 XLT 6.2 that I lucked out and found on the lot. Got the F350 for 3K less.

[travelin texans]

Originally Posted by Falcon67

I'll throw this in for Ford people - an F-250 with the base 6.2L will pull more than the 3.5L Ecoboost. With the same XLT Premium package and a few other common options, the 250 is cheaper. Cheaper by a couple thousand. With the 7.3L and 10 speed you're looking at 14K trailer and under 50K build and price. You won't find one on the lot, but you can order one.

Again the towing capacity of any truck, 1/2 ton to 1 ton, means nothing in the rv world. Look at the payload (what it's capable of carrying) rather than towing capacity.

[Falcon67]

Originally Posted by travelin texans

Again the towing capacity of any truck, 1/2 ton to 1 ton, means nothing in the rv world. Look at the payload (what it's capable of carrying) rather than towing capacity.

I should have used the term "Max loaded Trailer Weight" vs "Trailer"

GCVW ratings - Build & Price
F150 Ecoboost - 16,500 - $53K
F250 6.2L - 19,500 - $48K
F250 7.3L - 21,800 - $49K

Curb weight of loaded truck + loaded trailer = GCW

Our 350 has a GCWV of 24,000 and was $53K. There is no 150 on any lot around here under $55K. Mostly the reason for that is that nobody buys anything but 4x4 and diesel. If you want to save $, download the Ford Order Guide for the particular model and get to reading. Ford is bad about need this package to get this thing but the package adds X, Y and Z. Rear axle ratios vs powertrain will drive you nuts. The XLT Premium in the 250 is way better than the 150, etc, etc.

Best contact should be the dealer fleet manager, not the lot lizards. The regular sales guys/gals know virtually zero about trucks. 3 visits of maybe an hour each with the fleet guy got us the exact truck we needed without additional dealer gee-gaws and upsells.