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06-29-2020, 05:39 AM
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Member
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pensacola
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Surge Protectors
Looking for advice on what brand and model # surge proctor everyone likes or doesn't like. I have a 2019 Keystone 301UBH TT 50amp with 2 a/c unites.
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06-29-2020, 06:16 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Joppa, MD
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I don't know of any surge protector that experienced rver's use. What you want to do is buy a EMS (electrical management system). The difference (besides price) is that an EMS will protect the electrical system from incorrectly wired pedestals, malfunctioning pedestals (missing ground, missing neutral, missing line), and provide under and over voltage protection. They also have a built in delay so if the electricity supply is rapidly interrupted (flickering lights during a storm) ir will delay the restoration of power for a min or two until the power is stabilized. This will save your air conditioner compressor.
An EMKS will also protect against a lightning strike which is the ONLY thing most surge protectors do.
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Marshall
2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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06-29-2020, 09:07 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Box Elder
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We full time, and some years ago lost both our satellite boxes due to a utility voltage burp, even with a surge device plugged in. After replacing both boxes, I installed a Progressive hardwired EMS. We have experienced low voltage, mis-wired pedestals, and other voltage issues, and the EMS has turned off or in the case of a bad pedestal, would not allow power to the rig until the problem was corrected. The money spent on an EMS will save you many times more money from damage that will happen from voltage problems.
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Bob & Becky
2012 3402 Montana
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC
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06-29-2020, 09:30 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Lanexa
Posts: 260
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Progressive EMS 50amp hardwired, safe from elements and any chance of walking away. Hear their service is good as well - hopefully I will not ever need it.
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Kevin -n- Lisa
17 Fuzion 325 / 15 Chevy 3500 HC DRW
06 HD Ultra Classic
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06-29-2020, 11:22 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Picacho, Az
Posts: 6,809
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Whether hardwired or portable get the EMS ASAP!
I luckily chose the portable as I've had 3 RVs & only had to buy one EMS, 10 years of it pulled in daily & it never sprouted legs.
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Full-timed 10+ years
Sold '13 Redwood FB
Traded '13 GMC Denali DRW D/A
Replacement undetermined
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06-29-2020, 11:41 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Mountain Home, Idaho
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The nice feature with a portable EMS is that you can plug it into the park pedestal before you drag out the RV power cable, etc and know right away if your new location is good... power wise
either version is great though....
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2007 GMC Classic club cab 4x4 Duramax LBZ
2014 Alpine 3010 RE. 34 foot fifth wheel
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06-29-2020, 01:59 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Oregon
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Here ya go....
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2019 Ram Big Horn 3500 Aisin 4x4
2012 Alpine 3450-RL
Double Coin 235/75R-17.5/16 J rated 125lb
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06-29-2020, 05:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Olathe, KS
Posts: 124
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Portable progressive EMS for me. No regrets at all.
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07-06-2020, 08:24 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Gheens
Posts: 28
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Just got the power watchdog portable and so far have liked it, really like the ability to have alerts sent to my phone if a problem arises.
Only used it in one trip so far but was nice to be able to monitor our power from the phone
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07-07-2020, 06:32 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Tucson
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We like the Surge Guard #34951 and the remote #40301. It is portable so you can check the power at a pedestal before you unhook and then monitor your power usage with the remote. Never had a problem with it walking away and have used it on 2 different toy haulers.
Available at the following location - they have great videos and excellent customer service.
https://www.technorv.com/surge-guard...al-protection/
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07-07-2020, 07:23 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,286
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I use the hardwired EMS from Progressive Industries. I have been totally happy with it. There are several nice things about having it hardwired. You never have to think about it, it is just doing it’s thing automatically. Also, you don’t have to figure out how to secure it so no one steals it from the pedestal.
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2017 F250 6.7 Powerstroke FX4 crew cab
2016 Hideout 24BHSWE (27 foot TT)
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07-07-2020, 08:44 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Central FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LewisB
We like the Surge Guard #34951 and the remote #40301. It is portable so you can check the power at a pedestal before you unhook and then monitor your power usage with the remote. Never had a problem with it walking away and have used it on 2 different toy haulers.
Attachment 28498
Attachment 28499
Available at the following location - they have great videos and excellent customer service.
https://www.technorv.com/surge-guard...al-protection/
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We used this this brand and set up, except a 30amp model. The wireless monitor is a real plus in our opinion. I got the EMS on Amazon and the monitor at CW on sale for less than Amazon had it.
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07-12-2020, 10:10 AM
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Member
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pensacola
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I was surprised to see my post in the keystone forums news letter. So sorry for not replying to everyone but it has been A lot getting ready for a big trip to S. D. For 65 days, ended up getting the Camco Power Defender 50amp. I went with this one for the auto power reset function after an interruption and because it is lockable. It says it is weather proof but I still see campers covering the power pedestal, is this done for the rain or just to keep an expensive item out of site?
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07-12-2020, 10:41 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: W. Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by STJ
I was surprised to see my post in the keystone forums news letter. So sorry for not replying to everyone but it has been A lot getting ready for a big trip to S. D. For 65 days, ended up getting the Camco Power Defender 50amp. I went with this one for the auto power reset function after an interruption and because it is lockable. It says it is weather proof but I still see campers covering the power pedestal, is this done for the rain or just to keep an expensive item out of site?
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If you happened to see mine it's got a black bag over it (first time) because the yahoo that installed the 50A plug put it in upside down! Had to remove the cover of the plug to get clearance for my EMS cable to go straight up. Didn't want rain to get into any of it.
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Danny and Susan, wife of 56 years
2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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07-12-2020, 10:45 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Markham, Ontario
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Anything that goes beyond simple power surge protection whether it be hardwired or portable will help protect your trailer.
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Dan & Serena
2019 GMC SIERRA 2500 HD SLE
2015 Cougar X-Lite 29 RET
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07-12-2020, 02:29 PM
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Member
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Briggs
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I also use a surge guard for 12 years now on three different 40 ft toy haulers.
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07-12-2020, 05:05 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Cherry Hill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LewisB
We like the Surge Guard #34951 and the remote #40301. It is portable so you can check the power at a pedestal before you unhook and then monitor your power usage with the remote. Never had a problem with it walking away and have used it on 2 different toy haulers.
Attachment 28498
Attachment 28499
Available at the following location - they have great videos and excellent customer service.
https://www.technorv.com/surge-guard...al-protection/
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We use the 30 Amp version of this and have been very happy. I especially like the remote monitor so I can check how many amps we are drawing before turning on things like the microwave.
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2020 Cougar 22RBS
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07-12-2020, 05:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: california
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Most surge protectors can’t handle lightning, best to unplug during lightning storm.
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07-12-2020, 08:05 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Maricopa
Posts: 24
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STJ, I have 5th wheel 39' with 2 15K a/c units. I have a Progressive EMS model EMS-PT50C that does everything you assy you want and it portable rather than hard wired. Love it. My camper has the inCommand system, so I want to protect it and any other part of our unit. It certainly gives me piece of mind we are protected.
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07-14-2020, 09:49 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Twin Cities
Posts: 121
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I'll toss in another vote for the Progressive Industries EMS-HW30C.
https://www.progressiveindustries.net/ems-hw30c
This is what I have and I'm confident it has saved us more than once. It's hard-wired so I never even have to think about it... it's always there. Also never have to worry about it walking away. It has a built-in 2 minute timer to protect your A/C from short-cycling in case the power fails briefly (if your A/C has a built-in short-cycle timer (which mine does NOT) then you can set your EMS to a shorter 15-second timer or so).
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“The Cabin” 2017 Hideout 242LHS - SOLD!
"The Cabin v2" 2016 Jayco Greyhawk 31DS
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