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11-20-2020, 02:58 PM
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I may have spoken to soon?? I know I haven’t add them and didn’t realize they were putting these on new units from the factory. I will definitely check that tomorrow and update!!
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The EZ Lube system is not an "add on". The "bearing buddy" system (typically used on boat trailers is an "add on". The EZ Lube system is a "machined in part of the spindle/hub construction and is incorporated in the spindle/hub design during manufacturing.
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11-20-2020, 09:14 PM
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Ok, thanks for the info. I was thinking it would be something similar to the buddy bearing we use to add. I’ve done a little searching and saw a fair amount of controversy in using them. Mostly looked like issues with folks putting way to much grease in them but I will search some more before deciding on using them or manually packing the bearings. Need to pull the hubs anyway to check for grease on the shoes!
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11-21-2020, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Hblick48
I don't know about the Chevy brake controller, but the Ford one does not send any voltage to the trailer brakes unless you are going at least 5 mph. I thought mine was broken until I read about this on one of the forums.
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I noticed that with my 2014 F150 ecob, on a slight downward grade while going very slow and truck in neutral, pinching the controller seemed to do nothing! Very confusing when you get more of a reaction when significantly rolling. How can that be a good thing?
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11-21-2020, 06:55 AM
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Something else might be noteworthy. I previously had a Jayco 195RB that had one Dexter 3500 lb axle. Dexter reportedly claimed that the brakes were not capable of lockup on dry pavement. My Keystone Bullet has two of those axles.
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11-21-2020, 06:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mgreene
Ok, thanks for the info. I was thinking it would be something similar to the buddy bearing we use to add. I’ve done a little searching and saw a fair amount of controversy in using them. Mostly looked like issues with folks putting way to much grease in them but I will search some more before deciding on using them or manually packing the bearings. Need to pull the hubs anyway to check for grease on the shoes!
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While you are checking, see if you have the "forward brake adjusters" on your brakes (log on the the e-Trailer site and you can see the difference in appearance of the non vs auto adjusted setup).
Then check the brake adjustment. If this is a brand new trailer, the brakes may need to be manually adjusted (or some time for the auto-adjusters to do their thing).
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11-21-2020, 08:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mgreene
Ok, thanks for the info. I was thinking it would be something similar to the buddy bearing we use to add. I’ve done a little searching and saw a fair amount of controversy in using them. Mostly looked like issues with folks putting way to much grease in them but I will search some more before deciding on using them or manually packing the bearings. Need to pull the hubs anyway to check for grease on the shoes!
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Due the crappy factory grease seals it's almost a given if you, or anyone else, pumps ANY grease into those zerks it'll find it's way into the drums.
There's a handful of folks that swear by the EZ lube system, but the majority swear at it, I'm in the 2nd group, will never use it.
Unless you travel a significant amount of miles every year an annual, or every other year, hand packing should be plenty & gives the opportunity to inspect the entire system.
I wouldn't pump any grease through the EZ lube any more often than you'd hand pack them, but some believe they need a couple shots of grease every time they take off, THEY DO NOT!
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11-22-2020, 09:05 AM
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I’ve got the same truck and I’ve never skidded the tires on my fifth wheel! I pull out of the driveway and while rolling I’ll hit the manual trailer brakes to feel them just grab, I keep it adjusted to about 5. You don’t want them to skid because if you panick stop or make a quick maneuver, the trailer could come out around you.
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11-22-2020, 09:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skids
I noticed that with my 2014 F150 ecob, on a slight downward grade while going very slow and truck in neutral, pinching the controller seemed to do nothing! Very confusing when you get more of a reaction when significantly rolling. How can that be a good thing?
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I guess Ford thinks the tow vehicle brakes are sufficient at speeds less than 5 mph. Pinching the controller below 5 mph on mine does nothing.
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11-22-2020, 10:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hblick48
I guess Ford thinks the tow vehicle brakes are sufficient at speeds less than 5 mph. Pinching the controller below 5 mph on mine does nothing.
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The reason for that feature is to help reduce the "chucking" in fifth wheel trailer towing in "slow moving stop and go traffic".... For me, it's a very welcome feature any time I'm on an interstate and there's an accident 4 or 5 miles ahead and all the traffic is "stop and go for miles and miles"....
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11-23-2020, 04:42 AM
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Have you tried pulling the breakaway switch and see if you can pull the trailer forward. That way you know the trailer brakes are adjusted properly and the issues is with the controller.
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11-23-2020, 05:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimborokz
Have you tried pulling the breakaway switch and see if you can pull the trailer forward. That way you know the trailer brakes are adjusted properly and the issues is with the controller.
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I haven't done the skid test. I do have mine set until I can feel the trailer actually showing signs of pull on the truck, and it is quite easy to stop. I run mine at about 4.5 on the integrated controller. If I'm on a long trip I might set it at 5 due to extra cargo.
I would definitely check out Jim's thought (good call) anyway to ensure the breakaway switch is working.
It could be your brakes might need slight adjustment even though it's new.
Good luck
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11-23-2020, 06:10 AM
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I am going to pull the hubs and check the brakes and check adjustments before taking any trips towards the hills. It does stop very well, but that is with my gain set to 10 so I’m hoping it’s just an adjustment issue!
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