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Old 07-23-2012, 10:29 AM   #1
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Tow Rig Tires

Its time to replace the rigs tires and want a tire that is best for hauling. I have heard various opinions from friends and family that are mixed between 6,8 and 10 ply tires.

What should a person get. My rig is a 2011 dodge ram 1500, 2.55 with 5.7hemi and has the factory 265/70/17s 4ply LT tires. I tow a 2012 Sprinter 266rbs that I would estimate is 7200pds loaded down.

Where I live in Canada I do not have a lot of options or competition so the price is as follows.

6ply will run me $900 tax in installed
8ply will run me 1100.00 tax in installed
10ply will run me 1300.00 tax in installed.

If a 6PLY is fine it can save me $400 but its not a saving if it cost me my life down the road or damage to my rigs.

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Old 07-23-2012, 10:43 AM   #2
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x96mnn -
There are at least two tire threads currently on the forum asking essentially the same question...."What is the best tire to get for my TT?"
You can always get a tire dealer to order almost any tire you want if they don't have them in stock. Yes, you will pay more for them here in Canada or you can always go into the US, stay the required number of days, buy and get them installed there.
A quick answer to one of your questions ......forget the 6 ply tires.
Check recent threads, posts for tire threads or do a forum search. You won't have any trouble finding a ton of recent posts about tires.
I don't think starting another similar tire thread will serve much purpose since we already have a couple of them going.
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:56 AM   #3
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I had searched this forum for a similar thread and can only seem to find conversations on TT tires and issues with towmax tires. I used Tires and Ply in my search for results. Maybe I did not look deep enough into the threads.

Thanks for the advice on the 6PLY, leaves my choices down to two.
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:07 AM   #4
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Its time to replace the rigs tires and want a tire that is best for hauling. I have heard various opinions from friends and family that are mixed between 6,8 and 10 ply tires.

What should a person get. My rig is a 2011 dodge ram, 2.55 with 5.7hemi and has the factory 265/70/17s. I tow a 2012 Sprinter 266rbs that I would estimate is 7200pds loaded down.

Where I live in Canada I do not have a lot of options or competition so the price is as follows.

6ply will run me $900 tax in installed
8ply will run me 1100.00 tax in installed
10ply will run me 1300.00 tax in installed.

If a 6PLY is fine it can save me $400 but its not a saving if it cost me my life down the road or damage to my rigs.
From what I have seen that tire only comes in either a "C" rating (6 ply) or an "E" rating (10 ply). If your truck came from the factory with a "C" rated tire then you should be ok putting that back on there and be fine but more then likely it has "E" rated tires on it. The "E" rated tire is defiantly going to be the better choice but of course will ride a little harder because of the stiffer side walls and like you said is considerably more expensive.
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:42 AM   #5
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Its time to replace the rigs tires and want a tire that is best for hauling. I have heard various opinions from friends and family that are mixed between 6,8 and 10 ply tires.

What should a person get. My rig is a 2011 dodge ram, 2.55 with 5.7hemi and has the factory 265/70/17s. I tow a 2012 Sprinter 266rbs that I would estimate is 7200pds loaded down.

Where I live in Canada I do not have a lot of options or competition so the price is as follows.

6ply will run me $900 tax in installed
8ply will run me 1100.00 tax in installed
10ply will run me 1300.00 tax in installed.

If a 6PLY is fine it can save me $400 but its not a saving if it cost me my life down the road or damage to my rigs.

If your Ram is a ¾ ton 2500HD it came from the factory with 10 ply E rated tires. To maintain the tow and cargo capacities of that vehicle you must replace with E rated tires. If you have a ½ ton 1500 the load range C will be just fine. Upgrading to Es will require replacing rims also and not increase capacity of your Ram. . JM2¢, Hank
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:45 PM   #6
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x96mnn -
My apologies. I think I may have misunderstood your post thinking that you were looking to replace the tires on your RV and my reply wasn't very helpful. I wasn't quite sure what you meant by "the rig's tires" and assumed it was your RV. It seems that you are considering replacing your truck tires, not the ones on your Sprinter.
Sorry for the screwup.
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:55 PM   #7
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No problem at all and I found your post helpful enough and can see my post is not that clear.

It is my Tow Vehicle that I am looking to replace the tires on is a 1500 which the factory tires are getting warn. The truck has a 8900pd tow rating and my camper is around the 7K mark loaded up give or take a few hundred pounds I am thinking a stronger tire although will not increase my tow rating but be better with a stronger sidewall.

Here they do not seem to rate tires as C or E but 2, 4, 5, 6, 8 and 10ply. The truck came standard with 4ply Goodyear Wranglers.
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:59 PM   #8
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Its time to replace the rigs tires and want a tire that is best for hauling. I have heard various opinions from friends and family that are mixed between 6,8 and 10 ply tires.

What should a person get. My rig is a 2011 dodge ram, 2.55 with 5.7hemi and has the factory 265/70/17s. I tow a 2012 Sprinter 266rbs that I would estimate is 7200pds loaded down.

Where I live in Canada I do not have a lot of options or competition so the price is as follows.

6ply will run me $900 tax in installed
8ply will run me 1100.00 tax in installed
10ply will run me 1300.00 tax in installed.

If a 6PLY is fine it can save me $400 but its not a saving if it cost me my life down the road or damage to my rigs.
My favorite tires are the BF Goodrich All Terrain KO......10 ply E rated. Been towing trailers 10k-15k for 20 years. Best all around tire IMO.
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Old 07-23-2012, 03:33 PM   #9
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No problem at all and I found your post helpful enough and can see my post is not that clear.

It is my Tow Vehicle that I am looking to replace the tires on is a 1500 which the factory tires are getting warn. The truck has a 8900pd tow rating and my camper is around the 7K mark loaded up give or take a few hundred pounds I am thinking a stronger tire although will not increase my tow rating but be better with a stronger sidewall.

Here they do not seem to rate tires as C or E but 2, 4, 5, 6, 8 and 10ply. The truck came standard with 4ply Goodyear Wranglers.
On the tire side-wall there will be a load rating and a maximum inflation rating. This does not change when a tire crosses the border. The ratings appear in US/Metric limits. Like I said your rims most likely are not rated 80 psi. Your Wranglers could have 2 ply walls with a 4 ply rating and will say so on the side-wall. You will not like the way your Ram rides with 10 ply load range E tires on it. Get a set of quality tires of the same size and load rating that Dodge recommends and you can't go wrong. This is one time that more may not be better, Hank
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:53 AM   #10
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Here is a diagram that might help you identify the info on your tires. Where it says "Max Load Rating" there will be a letter (C,D,E,F(rare),G) a long with the weight in US/Metric.

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Old 07-25-2012, 09:09 AM   #11
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So I decided on and have them installing them as we speak Michelin LTX M/S2 tires.

They cost a lot more then the others but came with a much longer tread warranty and reviews on-line for the most part state I may double the tread-life compared to other tires which at the end of the day makes the tire a better value.

Thanks to all who replied! I will let you know how they work after I get 10K on them.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:53 PM   #12
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So I decided on and have them installing them as we speak Michelin LTX M/S2 tires.

They cost a lot more then the others but came with a much longer tread warranty and reviews on-line for the most part state I may double the tread-life compared to other tires which at the end of the day makes the tire a better value.

Thanks to all who replied! I will let you know how they work after I get 10K on them.
I am looking at these tires for my 2010 Ford F150 4X4. How do you like them so far ?
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:25 PM   #13
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Great tire so far Randy. The are a E rated tire so I find I notice the smaller bumps a little more but the road noise is reduced and handling feels better. I have about 10K on them right now and roughly 4K of that was hauling. While hauling the camper I found the little sway from the back almost eliminated with the much stronger wall tire and thread ware after the 10K I do not see any.
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:43 PM   #14
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I have the stock Goodyear tires on my F150 now. They suck in the rain and snow. I only have 50,000 km on them.

I get my new / first TT in the spring and am considering the Michelins. They are $1,560 for the set at Costco. A big chunk of change so i really appreciate your response.

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Old 11-01-2012, 05:15 PM   #15
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I have the stock Goodyear tires on my F150 now. They suck in the rain and snow. I only have 50,000 km on them.

I get my new / first TT in the spring and am considering the Michelins. They are $1,560 for the set at Costco. A big chunk of change so i really appreciate your response.

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I'm not sure how you feel about saving money vs buying in Canada. Costco in the US has the same tires in 275/65R/18 for $1051 plus tax installed for 4. They also list 275/55R/20 for $889 ($70 discount) You may want to go to Costco.com and see if it would benefit you to plan a spring vacation.
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Old 11-02-2012, 05:23 AM   #16
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On a price stand point Randy I got them at the local Michelin store for 1409 tax in and installed. The price I had received from Costco in Halifax was closer to 1800 so your price on an E rated is much better then I received as well the price in the US better yet again. There is a 70 rebate right now on them as well that I did not receive at the time I purchased, my goodyears had 40K on them at the time and I did not feel safe hauling the weight I had with them and did not want to wait.

These tires come in different side wall ratings and the non E rated are cheaper so if you wanted the strong side wall I found it very difficult to explain that to Costco and Canadian tire and get the tire I wanted priced. In Canada this was often refereed to as a 10PLY tire and the rating recently seems to have changed to a E rate which causes some confusion and the non speciality locations.

They are awesome in the rain and thankfully have not had to test them in the snow yet
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:57 AM   #17
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I have used the michilen's the the snow. they are fantastik! the Goodrich tires that came on my truck were awfull. first snow in 05 and all six were sold and replace with the the muck-lucks never looked back!
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I put Falken Rocky Mountain A/T E loads on my Dodge 2500 last fall. Best price from discount tire online and good reviews on TireRack.com. So far I'm happy with them both on and offload, empty and towing.
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