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11-04-2018, 12:58 PM
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They say the mechanic never works on his own stuff
Well, here I am to tell you that when the mechanic does, its a good thing he can do it and not pay someone. I was having "hot start" issues and finally took a the time to deal with it. After talking to the local fuel injection shop, I removed the injector pump. Because I DONT have a "78' first digits pump its only going to be $800.00 for rebuild, replacement is $1700.00. Today I took the injectors out, what a pain because I found three that were loose and one that must have been leaking past the copper ring and was stuck in place by carbon. No wonder my mileage and power was down. Going to get them pop tested and rebuilt if needed. TOTAL bill in the $1200.00 range, cant imaging what the bill would be for the labor. 1st pic is the injectors. 2nd pic is the mishmash of injector fuel lines. all labeled as they are specific to each injector. last pic is the empty space the pump would sit. two weeks and I should be taking the trailer on a "maiden" voyage again...SO READY!!!!
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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11-04-2018, 03:09 PM
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You've been busy.
We have done that on Chevy gas engines but never a diesel.
Looks like that is way more involved and expensive.
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11-04-2018, 04:06 PM
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Thanks, yeah I have. Been wrenching on cars for 40+ yrs on the side. Since my truck is “mechanical” (no electronics) it’s easier but still lots of extra details in a Diesel engine.
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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11-04-2018, 08:06 PM
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It does save a bunch of cash if you are set up and able to work on these things. Lost our turbo last year, and earlier this year lost the EGR coolant bypass valve, both expensive fixes, mostly a lot of labor costs. The photos are of our truck getting the turbo replaced.
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Bob & Becky
2012 3402 Montana
2012 Chevy 2500HD D/A CC
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11-04-2018, 08:51 PM
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Got to love those cab off repairs! I get so angry at size of my truck when I open the hood and look at the diesel inside and realize I can't get my bear claws anywhere past the coolant recovery tank!
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Marshall
2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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11-05-2018, 05:01 AM
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Marshall, close that hood! There is simply nothing under there for you to see...
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2019 F450 6.7 Powerstroke
2018 Mobile Suites 40RSSA
2021 40' Jayco Eagle
2001 Road king w/matching Harley sidecar
2021 Yamaha X2 Wolverine 1000
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11-05-2018, 05:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notanlines
Marshall, close that hood! There is simply nothing under there for you to see...
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I open it to see the altar of the Diesel Gods and say a prayer over the high pressure fuel pump.
If it self destructs it's an $8K-$10K plus repair.
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Marshall
2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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11-05-2018, 09:51 AM
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Gone Traveling
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Put new injectors in my 04 last winter. Wasn't a bad job just slow going, so many wires to unplug. Good thing they only go back together one way!!
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11-06-2018, 06:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flybouy
[emoji144]I open it to see the altar of the Diesel Gods and say a prayer over the high pressure fuel pump. [emoji144]
If it self destructs it's an $8K-$10K plus repair.
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We should probably have a blessing of the injector pumps day set aside once a year to bless these things. It would certainly be worth the money. Lol couldn't resist.
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Kansas City, MO
2016 Impact 312
2017 Silverado 3500HD SRW
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11-06-2018, 06:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ctbruce
We should probably have a blessing of the injector pumps day set aside once a year to bless these things. It would certainly be worth the money. Lol couldn't resist.
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I'll gladly take all prayers, blessings, good vibes, best wishes or whatever anyone is into!
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Marshall
2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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11-06-2018, 06:43 AM
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I would be willing to look after and distribute the monetary offerings.
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11-06-2018, 06:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 66joej
I would be willing to look after and distribute the monetary offerings.
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Hmmmm...should probably go to the Hired Holy Man! But we'll put down as an option.
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Kansas City, MO
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2017 Silverado 3500HD SRW
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11-06-2018, 07:06 AM
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After paying the shop to rebuild my pump and test/rebuild the injectors I’m afraid I’ll have to place an IOU on the collection plate.
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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11-06-2018, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 66joej
I would be willing to look after and distribute the monetary offerings.
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I'll need disaster relief if the HPFP destructs. From what I've read, if shiny bits are present in the fuel bowl it's done. On the 6.4L Ford it's a cab off required replacement including dropping fuel tank to flush, replace all fuel lines, both fuel pumps and the injectors.
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Marshall
2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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11-06-2018, 02:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flybouy
I'll need disaster relief if the HPFP destructs. From what I've read, if shiny bits are present in the fuel bowl it's done. On the 6.4L Ford it's a cab off required replacement including dropping fuel tank to flush, replace all fuel lines, both fuel pumps and the injectors.
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Ouch! If that should happen I might be tempted to leave it parked on the street with key in the ignition. After a good wash and wheels/tires detailed (like bees to honey)
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11-06-2018, 02:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 66joej
Ouch! If that should happen I might be tempted to leave it parked on the street with key in the ignition. After a good wash and wheels/tires detailed (like bees to honey)
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Yup, keys in the ignition, pink slip signed and placed on the dashboard and phone a freind for a ride home.
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Marshall
2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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11-06-2018, 07:34 PM
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I have a saying over on the Diesel forum
IDI TIL I DIE!!!
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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11-10-2018, 02:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flybouy
I'll need disaster relief if the HPFP destructs. From what I've read, if shiny bits are present in the fuel bowl it's done. On the 6.4L Ford it's a cab off required replacement including dropping fuel tank to flush, replace all fuel lines, both fuel pumps and the injectors.
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I loved my 6.4. Modded it and it was a beast. Did all the wrenching myself, but always in the back of my mind was the Siemens pump. When I totaled it I was happy to get a 6,7, but still miss the power of the modded 6.4.
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11-10-2018, 03:24 AM
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Stopped by the shop yesterday, pump is done. Injectors will be pop tested/replaced as needed. $45.00 to rebuild and $52.00 to replace with new, no brainer for me. Hopefully Friday I will start putting it back together.
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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11-10-2018, 04:52 AM
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Good job
I'll raise the hood to check the oil on my 6.7. Anything else - well let's just see what's there if it breaks with all the claptrap covering the engine. Any gas engine - at least the parts prices are within reason and I'll go there. I did rebuild one 350 cid diesel - that Oldsmobile based clunk that Chebbie used about 1980 but that was easy though.
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