Pistol Carry Permits - Reciprocal States

Jim Dow · 04-04-2014, 01:02 AM

Several states honor pistol carry permits issued by Alabama - reciprocal agreements. See attached image.

scayne62 · 04-04-2014, 06:08 AM

There is also a great app for the iphone and android called conceal carry (CCW) you put in what licenses you have and it shows you what states you are legal to carry in, I think it was a $1 but priceless not to get caught "out of bounds"

hoffbrew · 04-04-2014, 09:54 AM

That is a great app and is updated frequently

SAABDOCTOR · 04-04-2014, 11:00 AM

I live in the un constitution state of CT. we have no resoprcity with anyone and new york and Mass. suround me so i can't even get one out of the state! the more i think about it the madder i get and want to go on a political rant but this ain't the place. Just don't bring a gun here!

Festus2 · 04-04-2014, 11:26 AM

[QUOTE=SAABDOCTOR;120362]I live in the un constitution state of CT. we have no resoprcity with anyone and new york and Mass. suround me so i can't even get one out of the state! the more i think about it the madder i get and want to go on a political rant but this ain't the place. QUOTE]

Barney -

You are absolutely right. "This ain't the place." Thank you.

hoffbrew · 04-04-2014, 11:35 AM

I have my CA, AZ and FL permits, have had them for 15+ years. At one time this covered me carrying in all states but as of today, not anymore. I have them so when I travel I would be legal. RV travel, vacation travel and work travel. My brother works for the DOJ.... we talk and drink too much!! LOL

Ken / Claudia · 04-04-2014, 11:51 AM

This right is everywhere in US, and went thru the courts Years ago. Remember your home is your castle, if your allowed to own a firearm you are allowed to have firearms at your home. If your allowed to have firearms in your home the courts ruled that LIVING Quarters of a RV is also your home. Remember the tow vehicle is not included. The glove box in a motorhome is not included. ONLY LIVING QUARTERS. That means bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen, where one would live. You may travel with your firearm. The law does not cover any other areas as carrying it outside of the living quarters. I was taught that in basic police school in 1981? or about. When carrying or having a firearm anywhere else is up to the states mostly. Oregon does not accept any other states CCW permits. Cops, MPs etc. are exempt for most carry laws in Oregon.

Bob Landry · 04-04-2014, 04:03 PM

Texas is pretty generous with their carry laws. Under the Castle Doctrine you are allowed to have a handgun in your vehicle, even if you do not have a carry permit. It must remain concealed and it has to stay in the vehicle. The part I don't understand if if I am stopped and asked for identification, because I have a carry permit, I'm required by law to disclose that I'm carrying and he has the right to disarm me for the duration of the stop if he wants to. Then by law, when he releases me, he must give me my weapon back.
If you do not have a carry permit and you are stopped, you are under no requirement to disclose that you have a firearm in the vehicle. I still can't figure out why someone with CHL training and a permit has to disclose, but anyone else does not. I guess that legislators, even ours, are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

Just for information purposes, Texas has over 500,000 CLH holders and the percent of crimes committed by CHL holders is in the tenths of one percent.
If anyone ever wanted to create a map showing where all of the permit holders were, like they tried to do in NY, they might as well just paint Texas red on the map.. LOL

gearhead · 04-04-2014, 06:16 PM

A well armed society is a polite society....
http://www.handgunlaw.us/

Festus2 · 04-04-2014, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gearhead

A well armed society is a polite society....
http://www.handgunlaw.us/

gearhead -

I hope that your comment does not initiate the start of a debate on guns here on the forum.
Let's stick to the OP's topic so that this thread does not become a political discussion about the pros and cons of guns and gun ownership.

Thank you.

gearhead · 04-04-2014, 06:52 PM

Will do. I appreciate the feedback.

Western Traveler · 04-04-2014, 09:56 PM

Keeping on topic, Montana CCP good in 40 states. However approximately 98% of the state is no permit needed. Regulated in cities and towns. No firearms allowed permit or not in bars, banks, Federal buildings, schools and on trains.
Concealed carry is defined as covered or partially covered by an article of clothing. It was ruled by the courts that purses, fanny packs and backpacks are "luggage" so no permit required.
I believe Utah is another state that has a permit accepted in 40 states.
Well after purchasing that CCW app now I might be at 35 states rather than 40.

Ken / Claudia · 04-04-2014, 10:22 PM

You guys be careful with the CCW laws in your state when carrying in other states. They are complex and I have seen afew besides Oregon. Many will limit CCW by reasons such as Where, When, Why. Read thru the actual law of the state(s) and even than they can change from year to year.

Bob Landry · 04-05-2014, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken / Claudia

You guys be careful with the CCW laws in your state when carrying in other states. They are complex and I have seen afew besides Oregon. Many will limit CCW by reasons such as Where, When, Why. Read thru the actual law of the state(s) and even than they can change from year to year.

Agree. Even thought the permit is accepted, the laws can vary greatly from state to state.

rjsurfer · 04-05-2014, 05:15 AM

Just curious, can I legally keep a shotgun in the fifth wheel in every state of the union?

And does loaded or unloaded make a difference?

Thanks

Ron W.

Bob Landry · 04-05-2014, 05:27 AM

That's a good question and you should check the laws of the state you are in or going to travel in. Some's states have restrictions on handguns only and some's restrictions apply to all types of firearms. For something like this that can potentially put you in a lot of legal trouble(and expense), I would not depend on what I read on any Internet forum.

One thing that has not been mentioned here.. There are organizations all over the country that provide legal insurance in the event you are involved in a shooting. Most will cover you in any state that your state has reciprocity with.They provide legal counsel and cover all of the legal bills from Grand Jury though trial. It's cheap, I've seen it as low as $100 a year. It is only in effect if if was a legal and justified shoot, and God forbid you ever have to shoot another person, so that makes it even more important to know and understand the laws in the state you are in. I don't think, "But your honor, that's not what I read on the Internet" is going to be a very effective defense. You also need to be knowledgeable of the laws in each state traveled regarding interfacing with an LEO. Some states require you to disclose carrying, some don't and they take it very seriously.

**JRTJH** · 04-05-2014, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Landry

That's a good question and you should check the laws of the state you are in or going to travel in. Some's states have restrictions on handguns only and some's restrictions apply to all types of firearms. For something like this that can potentially put you in a lot of legal trouble(and expense), I would not depend on what I read on any Internet forum.

One thing that has not been mentioned here.. There are organizations all over the country that provide legal insurance in the event you are involved in a shooting. Most will cover you in any state that your state has reciprocity with.They provide legal counsel and cover all of the legal bills from Grand Jury though trial. It's cheap, I've seen it as low as $100 a year. It is only in effect if if was a legal and justified shoot, and God forbid you ever have to shoot another person, so that makes it even more important to know and understand the laws in the state you are in. I don't think, "But your honor, that's not what I read on the Internet" is going to be a very effective defense. You also need to be knowledgeable of the laws in each state traveled regarding interfacing with an LEO. Some states require you to disclose carrying, some don't and they take it very seriously.

Very well stated. There is so much missing, incomplete and sometimes simply wrong information on the internet that you really need to verify your source information and make sure it's correct.

As for disclosing to an LEO, there was a recent case in Michigan where a CPL carrier was stopped, when the officer approached the vehicle, the carrier talked to the officer for a "stated 40 seconds" before the officer asked for the driver's license. The CPL carrier handed him his license and CPL card and as he was handing them to the officer he also said, "I have a concealed weapon". He was arrested and it was determined in the trial, that he failed to "immediately disclose" that he was armed. All of this was recorded on the dash cam in the trooper's car and presented as evidence.

So, in some states, it's a very serious offense to not immediately say something as soon as the officer walks up to the window. Make sure you are aware of the laws in the state you're in at the time.

Bob Landry · 04-05-2014, 08:08 AM

I have not been stopped out of state, but my policy is and is going to be that I hand him my DL, my CHL, and tell him immediately if I'm carrying. That puts everything on the table and everyone is at more at ease. I would assume that in most states, the cop has the discretion to disarm you during the stop, but by law he has to return your weapon unless you are being detained or arrested.
You always run a 50/50 chance of getting a cop with an attitude, but if you do, the time to go after him is in court with a hungry lawyer, not on the side of the road where you're dealing with a guy who looks at everyone as a criminal.

VTLee · 04-05-2014, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SAABDOCTOR

I live in the un constitution state of CT. we have no resoprcity with anyone and new york and Mass. suround me so i can't even get one out of the state! the more i think about it the madder i get and want to go on a political rant but this ain't the place. Just don't bring a gun here!

If you are "legal" in Conn. you can get out under federal law:
Code of Federal Regulations
Title 18 - Part I - Chapter 44 - § 926a
§ 926A. Interstate Transportation of Firearms
Release date: 2005-08-03
Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/h...6---A000-.html

Ken / Claudia · 04-05-2014, 09:33 AM

My post about RVs being your home(castle) is alittle off topic but, many do not think about. Because it is a place where you live you have all the same rights in it as to personal protection from illegal searchs/seizures and what you do or have in it. So, with the 2nd and 4th amemdents of the US laws if you are allowed to own a gun it can be kept in a stick buildt home or RV they are considered both your home. Look up the castle doctrine and fed search/seizures rules. There can be locations such as a miltary base that says you cannot bring any guns onto the place. Having a gun and what you do with it are compelety different laws, again taking it out of the RV in some locations could be a crime, pointing it out of the RV could be a crime, etc. As to loaded or unloaded, yes it can make a difference. As to this topic I do not beleive it would make any difference.

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