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Originally Posted by Rocketsled

The Chevy towing guide calls out 5th wheel and gooseneck towing as separate from bumper pulling, and I know (yes I know, oh how I know) that we talk about the yellow payload sticker being the gospel for towing. (And in this fantasy, the trailer I’m lusting after is 750 lbs heavier at the pin than my whole payload)

But I thought the whole benefit of a 5th wheel was that it was locating all the weight on the rear axle (or nearly all of it, as geometry and safety allows). GM doesn’t even specify a pin weight on the 5th wheel/gooseneck charts, saying in a footnote that it should be 15% of the trailer weight.

It’s still that payload sticker, eh?

In reality the payload sticker is only a guide, GVWR and rear axle GAWR are the two important numbers when pulling a 5er.
The payload sticker is a guide when shopping on the lot, and now days a dealer should be able to give you the payload within a couple hundred pounds. Then once the truck is equipped and ready to tow then a trip to the scales to know exactly how much capacity you have left.

So now a question, is your concern the 3rd sticker that GM has added with maximum hitch weight for a TT or 5er? I have seen them in a couple post maybe on another forum, but the maximum hitch weight is a number less than the payload. That makes sense, but what about the single person with a heavy pin that will exceed the 3rd sticker pin weight, but still be within GVWR and rear GAWR. The ones I have seen seem to be about 700# to 800# less than payload.