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Chillaxin' III 06-11-2016 04:21 AM

THE Speaker replacement thread (All Join In!)
 
Hey guys,

I'm relatively new to this forum; but like all forums I join--I try to jump right in and get involved!

I've been researching other people's threads about adding / replacing / modifying their factory speakers, and I wanted to start an all-inclusive speaker thread all by itself...without the need to "search" and read dozens of pages to get to some sort of speaker-related discussion.

So here goes:

I have a 2015 Keystone Bullet 310BHS. It came equipped with some really LOUSY speakers. A brand called "Pummel Drive". (?) They suck, they have tiny little magnets, and they're certainly not "pummeling" anything (especially not with BASS). So I replaced the two interior speakers today.

THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR SPEAKERS ARE IN FACT 5.25". The interiors (with the twist-off white grilles) have a FRAME that is CLOSE to a 6.5", but not quite. They are a larger frame with a smaller 5.25" speaker housed in them.

I replaced my interior speakers with a pair of Boston Acoustics SE65 6.5" coaxial (2-way) speakers. They feature poly cones and a rubber surround, and a textile (not Mylar, titanium or aluminum) dome tweeter, for softer highs without being tinny or harsh. Since Boston recently stopped producing car audio components; I got them for half price ($65 vs. $120).

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ON MY CAMPER, I HAD 3" OF ROOM BEHIND THE CEILING FOR "MOUNTING DEPTH"--WHICH IS A LOT. YOU'D HAVE A LITTLE MORE IF YOU COMPRESS THE FIBERGLASS INSULATION SLIGHTLY.

I had to enlarge the stock openings by about 5/16" and I did this with a cordless jig saw with a shortened (cut-off) blade tip to minimize the chances of contacting any other wiring, fiberglass insulation or roof structure while cutting. The ceiling panels in these campers are made from a light weight Luaun plywood, and cut very easily. I used a fine-toothed saw blade made for thin metal; so it wasn't too aggressive. In fact, the new cut line (circle) that I drew intersected all 8 original screw mounting holes--so the old mounting holes were all cut out when I enlarged the opening.

I drilled 4 new pilot holes and voila! They look amazing, sound phenomenal, and are actually lower-profile (grilles) than the stock speakers, to ensure clearance (1") under the slide-out room's wooden trim frame. The bass will improve in a few days, after the voice coils and rubber surrounds are broken-in; as with all high-end speaker drivers.

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The exteriors are 5.25" with a standard frame and grille size. I will be replacing the two exterior speakers with higher quality marine speakers this week.

THIS IS A VERY EASY MODIFICATION, GUYS!

Please help me add to this thread with your replacement speakers specs, installation details, pictures, etc. Thanks guys!

--Rob

Tbos 06-11-2016 07:28 AM

Looks nice. Thanks for the details.

Bugbitten 06-11-2016 10:17 AM

Following your topic

tgoodwin321 06-11-2016 04:16 PM

Following this too. Thanks for the info. The last thing the DW would want me to throw more $$ at but always looking for ideas.

Camping Buddys 06-11-2016 06:20 PM

Nice job on the speakers.

Dave W 06-12-2016 03:37 AM

Nice set of speakers. Too bad that you couldn't have replaced that very light wiring. I did something similar on our last 5er but with using a decent SONY home theater system in-a-box but always thought that it was limited by that wiring. A few years later, my hearing and $$ hearing aids don't make that mod a worthwhile investment:(

MissJordan 06-22-2016 06:21 PM

Following as well, our speakers suck As well!


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Lariatbob 12-02-2016 11:48 AM

Re: THE Speaker replacement thread (All Join In!)
 
Along the same lines- Does anyone have suggestions to replace the terrible Jensen cd/dvd/tuner system?

srvnt 12-08-2016 10:25 PM

Anything is better than the cheezy stockers.

rdhouston 10-15-2019 08:48 AM

Old thread, I know but I feel a bit sad for the lack of response the OP got.

The stock a/v is pretty, however the thing is really pricey. I only use it for Bluetooth interface with the outdoor speakers now.

I installed a Sony DVD player, not an expensive one in the slot next to where the original radio is.

Then we started watching movies and when the AC would kick on you couldn't hear a thing.

So I bought a Vizio sound bar / subwoofer (model 3821) combo and installed that in front of the TV. Puts out great sound, rocks the trailer, we can hear movies, and I'm probably aggravating the campground neighbors.

Now I want to go back to the original speakers in the interior, and replace those adding two additional to the to the B Channel so maybe we can get a pseudo surround sound out of it inside. It would really just be for music. Matter of fact I might just run it towards the front into the bedroom.
Next will be replacing the outdoor speakers as those are terrible, too.
Stay tuned

RVGator 10-27-2019 03:30 PM

Outside speaker replacement
 
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I took off the stock outdoor speakers which did not sound good at all and replaced them with 6.5” kicker marine speakers. Found a pair of surface mounts on amazon so I didn’t have to drill any holes and boom. Done. Up next are to replace the interior ceiling mounted ones that are 5” I believe.

Yakburger 11-06-2019 10:58 PM

I replaced the stock (crap) speakers with a pair of Polk speakers and they certainly made a huge difference. I plan to replace the thin wires with real speaker wire when I upgrade the Furrion stereo and the Pummel Drive TV this winter. I plan to put in a good quality CD/Stereo to replace the Furrion (no DVD). For movies I will replace the PD TV with a good Samsung and use my Blu Ray player for movies using the TV speakers. They're not too bad (much better than the ones on the stock TV). I did this in my Jayco and it worked great. (The Polk speakers also were in the Jayco).

oldognewtrick 11-12-2019 06:30 PM

I just replaced the ceiling speakers with some JBL's. I had a pair of BOSE cube speakers I put under the tv shelf and tied them into th "B" button on the system. What an improvement it made. Next up is replacing the outdoor speakers.

ajk170 01-04-2020 04:08 PM

I too replaced the living room speakers and the outdoor speakers with something a little better and we added a soundbar when we upgraded the TV to a slightly larger LG. I found that I had to enlarge my living room holes by .25" house the new speakers. The outside speakers were these

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And the Inside speakers were these:
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foldbak 01-04-2020 05:35 PM

Yamaha sound bar. We dont even use the ceiling speakers. Sounds amazing!



https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-YAS-10...78162397&psc=1


Sonos 5 for outside.



https://www.amazon.com/Sonos-Play-Ul...s%2C204&sr=1-2

Bill-2020 01-28-2020 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foldbak (Post 372192)
Yamaha sound bar. We dont even use the ceiling speakers. Sounds amazing!



https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-YAS-10...78162397&psc=1


Sonos 5 for outside.


https://www.amazon.com/Sonos-Play-Ul...s%2C204&sr=1-2

Let me get this right--- you used to us the ceiling speakers for the TV audio? If so, how? A setting on your headunit?

JRTJH 01-28-2020 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill-2020 (Post 375321)
Let me get this right--- you used to us the ceiling speakers for the TV audio? If so, how? A setting on your headunit?

Use an RCA patch cable (usually red and white) connect the audio out on the TV to the AUX in on the back of the stereo. Then select AUX on the stereo function and adjust the volume. If you have 4 ceiling speakers, L/R will adjust left and right balance and FADE will adjust front/rear volume/balance.

If your TV doesn't have audio out connections, you can make/buy a "modified RCA patch cable with a "headphone jack" on one end and just plug the headphone jack into the TV headphone plug and the other end into the stereo AUX in plugs.

Bill-2020 01-29-2020 04:29 PM

Ah, ok. I understand. Thanks.

Nitram987 02-13-2020 04:19 PM

Speakers factory wired out of phase
 
Sorry. I haven't read the entirety of this thread but today when I checked the factory wiring of my Furrion powered Pummell speakers, and they were definitely wired out of phase (i'm an electrical engineer with an ohmmeter in hand). My advice -- check yours.

Hey Louie 02-17-2020 10:42 AM

My question would be if I keep the Furion head unit and just replace the outdoor speakers will I be able to hear a noticeable difference or do I need to replace both?


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