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FRANANDTOMMY
12-08-2012, 04:59 AM
it was recommend that we buy a 30 AMP portable surge guard. We usually camp in a state or county park....
any comments regarding this. ???

KJcachers
12-08-2012, 06:05 AM
This is the number 1 item on top of my to do list. Always good to be protected.


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Jim W
12-08-2012, 06:52 AM
I would recommend one. I have the 50 AMP portable surge protector with the lockable cover between the power cord and surge protector.

My Wife and I were down in VA two years ago when the campground power supply was struck by a lightning bolt during a thunderstorm. Will the surge protector shut off the power to the camper and save everything in the camper TV, Microwave, AC and such. The other two fivers next to me lost everything do to the power surge. One of them asked how come I didn’t lose my electronic stuff I just pointed to the surge protector and said that is what saved my electronic items.

Jim W.

Festus2
12-08-2012, 07:23 AM
FRANANDTOMMY -
I purchased a portable TRC 30A Surge Guard (Model No. 44740) for somewhere around $85-$90 and made a cable lock for it. While it doesn't offer the range of protection that a more expensive, hard-wired one does, it is better than not having one at all.

michael
12-08-2012, 08:17 AM
Ive never owned one but i see folks with creative ways to lock them up.

I spoke with an electrician friend at the campsite we were at,

And he had one and it was locked up all diferant ways,
as im sitting here reading and thinking that he paid i think it was 300 too 500

For this device and a few dollars for the locking stuff, Im woundering if i should just call my insurance agent and see what my protection is on lightning,

Maybe if i dont have it already it may only cost a few extra dollars a year.

Or maybe if its a hot item keystone could build them right into the unit.

I like less things to think obout, i need more time around the campfire with friends and less time setting up and and locking things down,

Maybe campgrounds should have to post the theft and vandilism at there sites then we can choose if we can leave our doors unlocked or hire security when we stay there :rolleyes:

MIKEPATC
12-08-2012, 10:12 AM
I have a 30 amp Portable Surge Guard unit with lock that I am no longer using. I hard wired a Progressive Industries EMS in my Travel Trailer last summer.

E-mail (Private Message) me if you are interested. I am sure we came agree on an excellent price.

Bigsky3625
12-08-2012, 12:13 PM
I have a 30 amp. and 50 amp. portable protector. Checks voltage, open, amps., etc. Would never plug in our trailer without one. Do you use one on your electronics at home? Bet you do. So why wouldn't you use one on your trailer?

sandy43
12-08-2012, 02:58 PM
I would certainly recommend some type of protection. I have the Progressive SSP50 Smart Surge. You can also get this in a 30 amp (SSP30). Their inexpensive and appears to work ok. Been using it for several years. I also check the elect outlet with a meter before I plug in, makes me feel better.

robo
12-08-2012, 03:51 PM
I have a 30 amp Portable Surge Guard unit with lock that I am no longer using. I hard wired a Progressive Industries EMS in my Travel Trailer last summer.

E-mail (Private Message) me if you are interested. I am sure we came agree on an excellent price.

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floatflyer
12-08-2012, 09:32 PM
I have a 30 amp Surge Guard but there is no obvious provision for locking it up as theft protection. I would be very interested in hearing what others have done to secure them.

Festus2
12-08-2012, 09:47 PM
As I indicated in my previous post in this thread, I fashioned a cable-type locking device which is secured to either the electric supply box or the post. Its cheap and easy to make and will deter a thief - not stop one who really wants the Surge Guard. Send me a PM if you are interested and I can email you a photo of it.

MikeL
12-09-2012, 07:42 AM
You will not regret purchasing a surge guard. HIGHLY recommend it. And specifically recommend the progressive industries line. I use a hard wired since I'm at a seasonal site And these things are expensive and easy to walk away with. But if you didn't want to hardware one in (takes an hour to do and an hour if research prior To Install), I'd recommend a portable version. The only time is worry about a portable being stolen is if you are gone for long periods of time without many neighbors around....

Why I recommend is because campground power grids seem to have lots of failures compared to regular residential. Last summer 6 sites in my row got a 240v jolt when the ground went bad. Various folks lost various things including: microwave, refrigerator, ceiling fan, popped light bulbs and a tv. It can happen anywhere at anytime!

Mike

davidjsimons
12-09-2012, 08:59 AM
Y'all have scared me half to death. I just bought one. Being new to this group, one can learn a lot from those who have been there, done that and have the t-shirts to prove it. Thanks guys!
I never thought about the need for one.

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Outbackmel
12-09-2012, 09:25 AM
If you hard wire a surge protector for 50amps, and should happen to be in a campground with 30amp; and you are properly connected, will it prevent a surge? :confused:

MikeL
12-10-2012, 04:04 AM
Lots of folks have survived without them too. Just think of it as insurance. You are protected from the hassle and cost of replacing components should you be unlucky enough to plug into a site that had issues or a surge or lightning strike....

Many others roll the dice and plenty will end up just fine... But the ones who have 'been there done that', will tell you it's worth the small cost to avoid the hassle again. It's basically a preventative measure... Each person has to weigh the cost vs benefit and decide. Just glad you learned the pros Nd cons and could make your decision before you had to learn the hard way.

My opinion is I'd like to see them standard on RV's. cost is so minimal....

Mike

Outbackmel
12-10-2012, 06:00 AM
If not standard, at least an option, dealer installed, with discussion of benefits versus risk. You only have to have this experience once and you are a believer.
I will be hard wiring mine soon. I would drive off and leave a portable one behind unless I chain it to my body with one of those reel dog leashes...:eek: :D

Jim W
12-10-2012, 06:28 AM
I will be hard wiring mine soon. I would drive off and leave a portable one behind unless I chain it to my body with one of those reel dog leashes...:eek: :D

How can you say that you would leave the surge protector behind?
When I shut off the circuit breaker to pull the power cord out the first thing to be removed is the surge protector. This is then un-locked from the power cord and put in its storage box in the basement. The lock and cover are placed in the electrical container along with the other electrical items that are needed such as cable for cable TV, if the campground offers cable. I then wipe down the power cord and wrap up the cord putting it away next.

This is all part of breaking camp and I follow this procedure with the DW checking the checklist to make sure everything has been completed. We also do a walk around to check the site just before pulling out to insure nothing is amiss.

Just my ways from camping for over 50 years, my boy scouts leader always had us police up the area before we left the campground. I guess just a carryover practice of mine.
Jim W.

W.E.BGood
12-10-2012, 09:21 AM
This is what I got for our 250RS...first time out with it at a State Park that we frequent it saved us from a significant low voltage drop overnight.

http://www.progressiveindustries.net/ems_pt30c.htm

FRANANDTOMMY
12-15-2012, 04:49 AM
We picked up our surge guard and lock yesterday at the parts store where we bought our TT. Got a 25% discount off of list price. Also picked up some general chemicals.

Going to a local campground (near Ft. Myers Beach) next weekend until after Christmas to try out the TT. :)
Will then find out if there is anything else we need before our first trip to Daytona in January

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Bob Landry
12-15-2012, 06:39 AM
While the plug-in surge protector is better than nothing, the 30A Progressive EMS is only another $150 online. Considering the tens of thousands of dollars you spend on a truck and trailer, gas to travel and all of the expenses associated with that, it's just cheap insurance to have everything covered with a device that protects you against all of the electrical hazards and can't be stolen. Replacing one circuit board in a furnace, air conditioner, or refrigerator will deplete the "savings" of not buying the best protection you can get. The same can be said about a good water pressure regulator(Watts vs Camco), but there are still a lot of hard lessons out there to be learned. Think of it like this, what you spend on one weekend at your favorite campground would probably cover the cost. Good Luck..

FRANANDTOMMY
12-15-2012, 01:42 PM
picked up our surge protector yesterday. Now I feel safe!!!!!!!!! we never knew we needed one for our 2 previous TT's- as we had purchased from private parties.

MikeL
01-11-2013, 04:51 AM
Congrats! I never knew either until I Learned the hard way! I even saw the advice in the forums and didn't act because so many people told me I didn't need it. Then I did and didn't have it!

Someone mentioned water regulator as similar "insurance". I've been rolling the dice on that one, I better look into it!

Mike

raytronx
01-11-2013, 08:01 AM
I wrote a blog post (http://loveyourrv.com/progressive-industries-model-ems-hw30c/) on installing the Progressive Industries EMS-HW30C into my fifth wheel if you haven't read it.

Anyway I am at a notoriously bad campground for power issues, many folks have told me stories. Last night I noticed the readout panel showed AC Volts 106! if it had gone down to 103 the unit would have automatically disconnected power.

If I didn't have the readout I would have been oblivious to the low voltage situation. Also the unit shows you your current draw which is nice.

Really liking the unit so far.