Does the payload of a truck include trailer hitch weight

[bedblue]

still trying to figure out what I can tow...hemi dodge ram, trying to see if I can tow 2012 Cougar X-lite 31SQB...advice?

[f6bits]

Payload is whatever makes the truck sit lower, not including gas. So it’s the people, their stuff, tonneau covers, winches, accessories, and the weight of the trailer hitch pushing down on the hitch ball.

[rhagfo]

still trying to figure out what I can tow...hemi dodge ram, trying to see if I can tow 2012 Cougar X-lite 31SQB...advice?

1500, 2500, or 3500??
Assume because you are asking it is a 1500.

Trailer is up to 9,000# loaded with almost 1,000# of hitch weight which is a bit of a load, but 35' long, what is your wheel base? The longer the better.

What is the GVW of the truck and the CGVW?

[chuck&gail]

If it is 9000# loaded, the hitch weight better be at least 1170#. Anything under 13% is just asking for sway IMHO.

Be sure to check the VEHICLE tongue weright spec. AS WELL AS the receiver spec.

[handye9]

still trying to figure out what I can tow...hemi dodge ram, trying to see if I can tow 2012 Cougar X-lite 31SQB...advice?

Assuming you are talking about a 1500 series Ram with factory tow package, your payload is somewhere around 1400 lbs, and tow capacity about 8900 lbs

From that 1400 lb payload, you need to subtract trailer tongue weight, weight of the hitch itself, weight of any bed mat or cover (tonneau or bed cap), weight of any cargo in truck bed, and weight of passengers.

The 31SQB has advertised 925 lbs tongue weight. That weight does not include a battery or propane. Those two items will push the tongue weight over 1000 lbs. Add any camping gear, water in holding tank, groceries, dishes, etc, and 10 - 15% of that weight is add to the tongue weight. Loaded for camping, very likely, that camper will have 11 - 1200 lbs tongue weight.

Take 1200 lbs tongue weight, add the weight of the hitch, and subtract them from your payload. Before you add any passengers or cargo in truck bed, you are over weight on payload. That won't be a pleasant drive.

The gross weight of that trailer is more than your tow capacity of 8900 lbs.

You would be overloaded on every number.

You should look at trailers with gross weight (shipping weight plus cargo capacity) that is 80% (or less) of your tow capacity. Your 80% number is around 7100 lbs.

[EcoboostKev]

You should look at the Passport line. They have 32+' units with some of the same setups you are looking at with much lighter tongue weights and gross vehicle weights.. You might find the Passport 3050BH to your liking??:thumbsup: