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foldbak
06-21-2021, 07:59 AM
Hey guys,


My wife convinced me to buy 2 ten foot kayaks. Now I'm trying to figure out how to transport them. I pull a 2018 Keystone Cougar Half Ton 27SAB with a rear fold down bike rack. I'm thinking about modifying the rack to carry the 2 kayaks. The other option is to replace it with a manufactured rack. The rack in the picture starts at $1500. So I'm hoping to mod the bike rack to save some money. Anyone have any experience doing this? Also I have a backup camera to consider as well.

travelin texans
06-21-2021, 08:13 AM
If it were me I'd be looking at a rack for the bed of the truck not the rv. The rack with kayaks mounted in the bottom picture looks like you'd drag the kayaks entering/exiting every driveway & you'd need to remember they're stuck up 2'+ above the rv.

Edit;
I googled "pickup truck kayak racks" & several popped up, looks like a very nice ones for $500 or less.

sourdough
06-21-2021, 08:16 AM
I have no experience trying to modify that folding rack but would just say I wouldn't use it unless they entire thing was beefed up from the frame back and made immobile. Guess I've seen too many of those things overloaded, flopping and drooping all over the place.

As far as carrying the kayaks as in the last picture I would just say I've seen several RVs carrying them in the vertical position. Most had scratches, mars etc. from the owners attaching/removing them from whatever suspension system they used so keep that in mind if you go that route.

foldbak
06-21-2021, 09:09 AM
I have no experience trying to modify that folding rack but would just say I wouldn't use it unless they entire thing was beefed up from the frame back and made immobile. Guess I've seen too many of those things overloaded, flopping and drooping all over the place.

As far as carrying the kayaks as in the last picture I would just say I've seen several RVs carrying them in the vertical position. Most had scratches, mars etc. from the owners attaching/removing them from whatever suspension system they used so keep that in mind if you go that route.


Not enough clearance on the bed of the truck. :facepalm:

jxnbbl
06-21-2021, 10:30 AM
I saw a trailer yesterday with paddle boards and kayaks mounted that way on the back of it. Would never do it!

I have a lot of experience traveling with rowing shells (not combined with my trailer, but at times with my motor boat). Anyways the only option (to me) is to buy a good truck rack. In my case one that works with my tonneau cover. The kayaks would be placed on that rack. In fact they probably would double as a wind deflector giving you better mileage than that rack and pushing those bugs around the cap of your trailer.

JRTJH
06-21-2021, 12:13 PM
Not enough clearance on the bed of the truck. :facepalm:

You've got a crew cab truck. There are racks made by all the "major rack manufacturers" that are designed to fit on your vehicle roof and carry kayaks. I'd look at the Thule and Yakima racks.

When you think about it, not only would they be better protected than "hanging below and above the rear of the trailer, but when you get to where you're going, you will still have to transport them from the campsite to where you're going to use them.... If that's 25 or 30 miles away, how are you going to get them to the water ???

travelin texans
06-21-2021, 12:42 PM
AA-Racks Adjustable Aluminum Pick-Up Truck Ladder Rack (APX-25) White
$354.90
AA Products
Free shipping

Here's what I found along with several other options that go over the bed & cab.

jasin1
06-21-2021, 01:02 PM
You've got a crew cab truck. There are racks made by all the "major rack manufacturers" that are designed to fit on your vehicle roof and carry kayaks. I'd look at the Thule and Yakima racks.

When you think about it, not only would they be better protected than "hanging below and above the rear of the trailer, but when you get to where you're going, you will still have to transport them from the campsite to where you're going to use them.... If that's 25 or 30 miles away, how are you going to get them to the water ???

The guy in the top picture has what looks like a f150 with the kayak and bed rack:eek::eek:… I wonder if he fills every inch of the bed up with supplies also…hate to see his cat scale ticket …I have an inflatable kayak and probably getting inflatable paddle boards also..we keep the hard sided kayaks and paddle boards at the house…too much of a pain transporting them for us,might go the toy hauler route in the future for this reason.
Those racks do look like a good option though. Wonder if you could get bike rack and kayak rack and carry all at once if you have the payload capacity?

spade117
06-21-2021, 02:33 PM
AA-Racks Adjustable Aluminum Pick-Up Truck Ladder Rack (APX-25) White
$354.90
AA Products
Free shipping

Here's what I found along with several other options that go over the bed & cab.

Similarly, I use ladder rack for my kayaks, but I need to remove the tonneau cover when I bring them. A rack over the cab would work if you want to still have use of the tonneau cover, although those styles do cost a little bit more. Definitely would not put them on the back of the trailer.

markcee
06-21-2021, 03:25 PM
The guy in the top picture has what looks like a f150 with the kayak and bed rack:eek::eek:… I wonder if he fills every inch of the bed up with supplies also…hate to see his cat scale ticket …

Meh....no worries, I recognize the badging, it's an Ecoboost! :rolleyes:

Campermike
06-28-2021, 03:50 AM
I have Adarac ladder racks on my truck for carrying the kayaks. The ladder racks actually fit outside the tonneau cover so I don't have to remove it to use them. I can carry up to 4 kayaks with the Malone stax system I use to secure then to the ladder racks although loading the 3rd and 4th kayaks is a bit tricky. When not transporting the kayaks I can easily unbolt and remove the racks.

jxnbbl
06-28-2021, 04:54 AM
I have Adarac ladder racks on my truck for carrying the kayaks. The ladder racks actually fit outside the tonneau cover so I don't have to remove it to use them. I can carry up to 4 kayaks with the Malone stax system I use to secure then to the ladder racks although loading the 3rd and 4th kayaks is a bit tricky. When not transporting the kayaks I can easily unbolt and remove the racks.


I have the same rack - I have not put it on my new/current truck and couldn't find the name when posting the other day. +1 on this due to its compatibility with the cover.

bobnelms
07-08-2021, 07:33 AM
Just wondering if it's hard to get those kayaks up there? I'm getting old and don't know if I could handle that.

Campermike
07-08-2021, 07:57 AM
It can be tricky as the racks are high. With the stax I use to tie it down I end up standing on the edge of the truck bed... But if you are only transporting 2 kayaks with j hooks that wouldn't be an issue.. you'd just have the issue getting it on the rack. I lift the front up to the rack then push it on there.

ENJ
07-08-2021, 07:59 AM
You could buy foldable kayaks. See their website at https://www.foldupkayak.com

We have 2 X 10 foot and they fit across the front of the truck bed folded up and weigh about 30 lbs. each. Works well pulling a 5th wheel too.

dmjadamski
07-08-2021, 08:03 AM
I got these from Rhino Racks. I put 2- 12’ kayaks on them. I take them offer when not being used which is nice.

gec49
07-08-2021, 08:14 AM
We have a Cougar Half To 21RBSWE and two sit in 10’6” kayaks. We transport the two kayaks inside the trailer, on the bed. They just barely fit through the door. I cover the bed with a blanket and place cardboard pads at each end where the kayaks can rub the wall and counter top. The kayaks are stacked and strapped together. It takes about 15 minutes to place and secure them. We just put the kayaks in the truck bed and tie them down to travel to the lake or river. The only downside is the kayaks must be removed even if they are not used at a camping destination.

P&DZ
07-08-2021, 08:23 AM
We have two 10 foot wilderness system kayaks that nearly always come camping with us. Our truck is a GMC 1500 crew cab short bed. Both kayaks fit nicely in the bed of the truck extending over the closed tailgate. There is about a foot of clearance between the end of the kayaks and the front of the TT. No need for any racks and easy transport to the lake when we reach our destination.

rlh1957
07-08-2021, 02:01 PM
I’ve seen the vertical kayak haul… just keep in mind what is lower than the bumper may contact the ground and certainly height should be noted.

DebKen
07-08-2021, 02:39 PM
We just tie ours together in the truck bed (we then use tie downs to secure them in the bed).

Fourbtgait
07-08-2021, 05:16 PM
We carry 2-12’ kayaks using Access Truck Accessory racks. They are easily removed when not needed. Works with rollup bed cover also.
Nothing interferes with trailer, easily slide them up from rear.

Danimal713
07-09-2021, 05:27 AM
I have a Silverado with a capper on bed so bought a nice rack and mounted it to capper- didn't want to drill holes in the cab roof. I already had the 4 kayak craddles. I put one end in and push up the other into the cradles. It is a little of a pain but we get to bring the toys. I checked out the foldable ones and a great idea and would free up the capper rack for the sailboat! :whistling:
Well maybe......
I also just added a bike rack to the front of camper tongue (yes I know it increases tongue weight but am still OK for that. I just don't like carrying anything on back of camper. I did it with bikes on previous camper and had a 2" receiver welded to frame but I coul;d feel the added weight in the rear and didn't like it. The bigger eason though is the "debris" on the roadside when things fell off. It would be a rude awakening to arrive at campsite and the toys were gone from ear of trailer and never even knew they went bye-bye.

jasin1
07-09-2021, 07:51 AM
I have a 2 person west marine /advanced elements inflatable kayak…fits into its own flat suitcase bag. I keep that in the storage compartment.
I’m getting inflatable paddle boards also as they are versatile and actually pretty solid( some people sit on them and paddle like a kayak)
The fold up kayaks are a neat idea but when I was camping last month there was another camper assembling and folding it for quite a while…not sure if they had the directions for it but it sat there half folded and looking rickety for most of the day.

foldbak
07-12-2021, 05:26 PM
The guy in the top picture has what looks like a f150 with the kayak and bed rack:eek::eek:… I wonder if he fills every inch of the bed up with supplies also…hate to see his cat scale ticket …I have an inflatable kayak and probably getting inflatable paddle boards also..we keep the hard sided kayaks and paddle boards at the house…too much of a pain transporting them for us,might go the toy hauler route in the future for this reason.
Those racks do look like a good option though. Wonder if you could get bike rack and kayak rack and carry all at once if you have the payload capacity?


What picture are you talking about? Am I missing something? If you're referring to my black GMC it's a 2500HD Denali 6.6

jasin1
07-12-2021, 05:28 PM
What picture are you talking about? Am I missing something? If you're referring to my black GMC it's a 2500HD Denali 6.6

No not yours…the top pic in post #6..sorry for the confusion

foldbak
07-12-2021, 05:40 PM
So I ended up purchasing a Yakima T-rail system. A bit of a learning curve due to the Retrax tonneau cover. I got the wrong JRacks and sent them back but strapped the kayaks directly on top of the bars for a test run to Bodega Bay. All went well except at my age it's a bit tough getting them up there.



I did discover that I have about 8" of clearance with the yaks laying on the tanneau cover so I dont need this tall of a bed rack. I'm going to try and sell these and get the short version.



Ugh.....wife is super happy with this.....NOT:facepalm: Anyone looking for Yakima rails? Only used once :banghead:

foldbak
07-12-2021, 05:42 PM
No not yours…the top pic in post #6..sorry for the confusion


Oh ya I see...lol :lol: