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RamRod78
04-01-2021, 09:32 AM
So here's my new unit ready for some family adventures. First TT, basic unit but so much better than our old tent!

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7335

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7333

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7334

Gonna track some of the mods and issues (found a few already) here.

Javi
04-01-2021, 09:37 AM
Congratulations, nice looking rig..

RamRod78
04-01-2021, 09:43 AM
First thing I had a giggle at... "Solar Ready" = 1ft of wires from this plug on the front of the frame directly to the battery... At least they included a 15A fuse!

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7341

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7340

RamRod78
04-01-2021, 09:47 AM
PDI Picked up the following:

Range Hood - Lights not working properly - New unit on order
Fridge Door - Dents - Replacement on order
Kitchen Backsplash - Damaged - Replacement on order

Various Loose Trim & Staples - All fixed on site.

RamRod78
04-01-2021, 09:55 AM
My unit is pre-wired for a Furrion.

I purchased a Haloview 7109 that comes with the mounting plate for the pre-installed mount and an adaptor cable... Plug'n'play!

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7344

Yeah right... Got it installed, plugged in the 7-pin, turned on the lights.... Nothing :(

Pulled the center marker light to see what was connected and found this:

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7345

Nice... Totally safe :rolleyes:

Cut the mess out, connected it properly and wrapped with tape... Camera working!

RamRod78
04-01-2021, 10:02 AM
First roof mod was a vent cover... 4 of us and a dog in there, especially when it rains, I figured we could use the air!

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7346

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7347

Pretty easy install. and a good chance to inspect the roof fully. Found a couple of spots of Dicor that appear to be lifting. Will add to the dealer "90-Day Fix" list or top-it up myself soon.

wiredgeorge
04-01-2021, 10:04 AM
Your next post will likely be about rodent control! Had mice in my camper and took 17 different tactics and at least one worked. Seal with expand spray foam. I bought a couple of those sonic pest control gizmos (yeah, I know), traps, bait, essential oil spray, etc etc. Not sure which did the trick but found a couple of dead mice and no more living running around that I can see. Not sure how you got one inside the wall of your camper but those buggers can get through teeny gaps. Also, put your food in good sealed containers and the trash in a can that has a lid that shuts tight.

RamRod78
04-01-2021, 10:10 AM
First thing the wife did was order a different mattress... It was a fair bit heavier than the stock foam and the bed-lift would not hold it.

Quick and easy swap with stronger struts found on Amazon:

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7349

Also picked up a lockable TV mount for the TV we haven't bought yet... Don't really need a TV, but need something to occupy the kids on rainy days.

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7348

RamRod78
04-01-2021, 10:11 AM
Your next post will likely be about rodent control! Had mice in my camper and took 17 different tactics and at least one worked. Seal with expand spray foam. I bought a couple of those sonic pest control gizmos (yeah, I know), traps, bait, essential oil spray, etc etc. Not sure which did the trick but found a couple of dead mice and no more living running around that I can see. Not sure how you got one inside the wall of your camper but those buggers can get through teeny gaps. Also, put your food in good sealed containers and the trash in a can that has a lid that shuts tight.

Thankfully no sign of rodents... Underbelly has all entry points foamed and storage yard has traps everywhere.

RamRod78
04-01-2021, 10:18 AM
I guess we forgot to close the bedroom pocket door on the PDI...

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7350

Caused by a staple that hadnt set:

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7351

Added to the dealer's "90-Day Fix" list along with another couple of trim panels that have come loose. Looks like plenty of screws/staples that didnt hit a stud.

wobly
04-01-2021, 10:25 AM
I enjoy seeing mod threads like this. You seem to have a good attitude that some things will go wrong and you have the choice to be bitter about it, or just repair what you can and improve things the way you like.

Keep up the good work and keep the mods coming!

RamRod78
04-01-2021, 10:31 AM
We had some wet snow last week... but the sun came out, so I decided to give the unit it's first pull as a shakedown. All good until we got inside:

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7352

Water on the dinette. Wasn't there when I hooked up? Found this inside the AC cover:

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7353

Traced the source to where the roof meets the AC:

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7354

On closer inspection, I cant find a seal/gasket. I can even see daylight despite the bolts being tightened to spec:

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7355

Have dried the area out with towels, ran the furnace for a while, added a chemical dehumidifier, and levelled the unit so the water runs down away from the AC and not back past it (it was slightly nose up before). Looks like rain will be ok, but the melting snow got dammed up against the edge of the unit. Gotta get it fixed pretty quick though.

Called dealer - They are booking 2 weeks out, and want it for 2 weeks. Our first trip is in 3 weeks for my 6yr olds' birthday. Hoping the dealer works with us a bit to get this sorted ASAP.

RamRod78
04-01-2021, 10:36 AM
I enjoy seeing mod threads like this. You seem to have a good attitude that some things will go wrong and you have the choice to be bitter about it, or just repair what you can and improve things the way you like.

Keep up the good work and keep the mods coming!

Thanks!

Yeah, not too many units available right now so it's deal with what you've got or not go camping for another season.

Was expecting issues, especially on an entry-level unit. Pretty easy to fix these wood-framed units at least.

RamRod78
04-26-2021, 09:45 AM
Managed to get out for an early season trip in the snow and temps hovering either side of freezing.

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7428

First time using the Anderson levelers and made it super easy for me to set-up on my own.

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7424

Gave the "Cold Mountain Package" a run for it's money and filled the fresh water tank to test the water system out. Burned a bit of propane to keep the underbelly from freezing, but worked well.

Found the Water Pump only held by one screw (all 4 screws there, only one through a pump foot!), the pump outlet dripping, the city water interior connection dripping and no washer in one of the low-point drain caps. All easy fixes... But make sure to unscrew all those panels and inspect everything!!

When checking the low-point caps I also found this:

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7425

That pipe is well and truly pinched between the frame and floor (how did i not see this at PDI?!). Didn't affect any of the water system, so I think it may be the Sani-Flush line. Added to the dealer 90day list along with the bedroom Exit window that doesn't seal at the top and is a water entry point.

Anyhoo... I swapped out the drain caps with ball valves to fix the drip:

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7426

These made draining and blowing-out the lines a breeze.

Got the TV in which kept the kids happy:

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7427

Also upgraded my fire-protection and mounted these guys in addition to the tiny included one by the door an the one already in my truck:

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7429

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7430

The unit is back to the dealer this week to address all the issues so far...

wiredgeorge
04-26-2021, 10:19 AM
You know, your attitude is refreshing. Most folks buy a camper in this crazy pandemic era that is not 100 percent perfect and start screaming LAW SUIT and condemning Keystone employees as satan's henchmen. Looks like once you have gone through this initial sorting phase you and your family will be golden. BTW: It is almost May and you are mentioning snow. Please don't use that word as it makes me very uncomfortable brrrrrrr.

jasin1
04-26-2021, 10:26 AM
You know, your attitude is refreshing. Most folks buy a camper in this crazy pandemic era that is not 100 percent perfect and start screaming LAW SUIT and condemning Keystone employees as satan's henchmen. Looks like once you have gone through this initial sorting phase you and your family will be golden. BTW: It is almost May and you are mentioning snow. Please don't use that word as it makes me very uncomfortable brrrrrrr.

I agree. Good job.... the difference between your family having a fantastic weekend and a miserable one is sometimes nothing more then your attitude

sourdough
04-26-2021, 11:51 AM
^^^^Amen. Some of RamRod's issues would have had some folks howling and screaming the world had come to an end. Taking it in stride and working it out.....that's the way to do it.

Gotta love those Andersens. They do simplify setting up. And that's not a bad place to be setting up Ramrod. Glad you had a good trip.

RamRod78
04-26-2021, 01:42 PM
BTW: It is almost May and you are mentioning snow. Please don't use that word as it makes me very uncomfortable brrrrrrr.

Ha... This is Alberta, it can snow every month of the year :lol:

RamRod78
04-26-2021, 01:51 PM
You know, your attitude is refreshing. Most folks buy a camper in this crazy pandemic era that is not 100 percent perfect and start screaming LAW SUIT and condemning Keystone employees as satan's henchmen. Looks like once you have gone through this initial sorting phase you and your family will be golden. uncomfortable brrrrrrr.

I agree. Good job.... the difference between your family having a fantastic weekend and a miserable one is sometimes nothing more then your attitude

^^^^Amen. Some of RamRod's issues would have had some folks howling and screaming the world had come to an end. Taking it in stride and working it out.....that's the way to do it.

Gotta love those Andersens. They do simplify setting up. And that's not a bad place to be setting up Ramrod. Glad you had a good trip.

Thanks all... I knew what to expect in an entry-level unit, and it sure beats being in a tent! Helps that I like DIY too.

10 days 'till our next trip out. Forecast is calling for ~30mm Rain and/or 5cm snow... Fun times!

flybouy
04-26-2021, 04:56 PM
Nice job, great attitude! Supposed to be in the 80's here the next two days.

Sarge2
04-26-2021, 05:38 PM
Very nice job and VERY good attitude about things!! :bow:

RamRod78
05-20-2021, 02:38 PM
Got the trailer back a week ago for a weekend out at Bow Valley PP. Unfortunately, turned out to be the last trip for our old Shepherd, but at least she got one last adventure.

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7473

It was a great weekend and the trailer held up well.

The dealer was yet to fix everything, so we added another couple of items to their list though :lol:

The awning had developed a tear where it was rolled up against the LED strip, we also found a dent in the tube. Given we hadnt unrolled it yet, that was a bit of a suprise.

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7477

We also found the screen door didn't stay shut on it's own.

RamRod78
05-20-2021, 02:52 PM
Good news today though. Got a call from the dealer that ALL previous items have been replaced and/or fixed.

The AC didn't have a seal, so one was added. The scratched doors were replaced. The pinched water pipe was the Sani-flush, so they opened it up and replaced the section of pipe.

Only remaining item was the awning replacement and Keystone approved that today.

All in all, the Dealer and Keystone have been great and we now have a great trailer ready to roll for many more adventures. Will be back out again next week! :D

sourdough
05-20-2021, 03:21 PM
I am sorry to hear about puppy. She was pretty.

RamRod78
06-15-2021, 10:55 AM
While we wait for the dealer to get the remaining parts (bedroom door, awning) and close-out our PDI issues, it's time to get a couple of simple, easy upgrades done...

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7512

First up, level bubble! :lol:

Followed that with a screw on last-chance dump valve... Don't ask me why I realized I needed this :facepalm:


https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7513

RamRod78
06-15-2021, 11:00 AM
Now for something more fun.... Solar!

2x330w Panels up on the roof (only 1 hooked up until I get an extra set of MC4s) :

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7514

Run down through the closet:

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7515

Straight into the pass-through:

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7516

Added in a battery monitor for good measure.... Left the single G27 battery on the toungue for now. Will upgrade to lithium in the pass-through next year.

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7517

All in took about 4hrs...

RamRod78
06-15-2021, 11:04 AM
Took the solar out for the weekend.

Pushing 13.6A into the battery in full-sun with only 1 panel hooked up. Even getting 4A when cloudy.

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7518

Charged my single battery in a couple of hours AND more than covered the vent-fan, lights, water-pump and device charging during the day. :D

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7519

RamRod78
06-15-2021, 11:08 AM
Without an inverter just yet, I wanted a way to run my CPAP when we do not have hook-ups...

Added a 12v car-lighter by the bed:

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7520

And found a 12v-24v adapter on Amazon for CAD70. Much cheaper than batteries or travel CPAP machines:

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7521

With furnace, CPAP, fridge (on propane), we used only 20% of the 100AH battery overnight. Gives us 2 and a bit day's leeway, with more than enough solar to refill.

Looking forward to bigger batteries and an inverter, but for now this will do :D

RamRod78
06-15-2021, 11:11 AM
Been out a few times in this unit now... Loving our family adventures.

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7522

And last weekend introduced our newest family member to camping :D

https://www.keystoneforums.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1252&pictureid=7523

Had to re-seal the fridge grill on the outside side-wall, and have started to de-badge (getting rid of "Hideout" and dealer labels, etc.) but other than that, I think we are getting there!

hxckidd
06-16-2021, 07:50 AM
that is awesome. I am just finishing up my inverter and solar install on my 2017 hideout. So excited to have full power without dealing with the generator.