Worth the headache ???

[mskeyspirate]

:confused: Well first let me say that this is not really meant to be a rant. But lately I've been wondering if this camper thing is really worth it. Just quickly, we bought a brand new TT in 15. Paid good money, did our research, and were generally happy with our purchase. We felt it was the right camper for us. There is no need to bash any particular brands here, because I feel that they are all in the same general category. Let's just say that we did not buy a bottom of the barrel variety.
So...that being said, the first two months we had a serious leak in a window. The dealer had the unit for repair for 6 weeks. Since then, we have had numerous leaks, a hot water heater replaced, a fridge problem, and a leak so bad, that we had to have our entire front cap replaced, at our cost. The last issue may have been my fault, due to possibly missing a small crack when re caulking. But through our travels, and friends and neighbors I now have come to the realization that our problems are not unique, or isolated to us, or our brand of camper. I could go on and on about the new $60,000 camper that our friend has that the slide will not work on, the 2nd time out. Or another that has multiple water leaks (in the plumbing) that a dealer says that they can not find. But I was standing in water the last time in their camper. How bout the new Cougar that the electric jack will not work after the first summer ?
Anyway, what keeps people buying these things. I used to think that there are just a few lemons out there. Now I think that there are just a few trouble free campers out there, and even less good, reputable dealers. Let me also say that I take meticulous care of our unit. Stored in doors, seals and seams checked twice yearly, winterized, polished and waxed spring and fall. And so on ! What are peoples thoughts ? Is this camping thing really worth it ? Not looking to sell yet, but maybe just looking for some folks to tell me what keeps them camping, even with all the issues that I know are out there. My philosophy on the whole thing is.....Every camper produced is simply a large, cheap box on wheels. No matter the brand, date of manufacture, color, or if it has shiny mag wheels or not.

[spade117]

Is this camping thing really worth it ?

It is for me.

[UsTwo]

I like to think it is worth it also..
We are even thinking about going full time in a couple years.
I have had a lemon, but not with a Keystone product..Our dealer sold it to us not knowing it was going to be a lemon either.. But they made good on it and we think we did also..Our present dealer bought out a dealership from another state, that was going out of business. due mainly because the manufacturing plant was going bankrupt, and out of business. they just threw together everything they had left over to get rid of it.. Unfortunally for us and our dealer, we got one of those.. after 2 years they thing was falling apart, like I said, our dealer made good on it, and this is how we got a Keystone Cougar.. WE love it, and yes there has been a few things go wrong but, we are still at it.. Is it worth it to us.. Oh yea...

[Laredo Tugger]

If your experience with anything is not enjoyable then you are inclined to not do repeats.
Yes the RV industry is financially driven and for that reason trailers get made and shoved out of the respective factories as fast as they can be built. In this process quality takes a dive and (like your's) some trailers are problem boxes from the start. For that I am sorry. Stories like your's make me (and others I'm sure) realize how lucky we are. And I do agree that if you are chasing one problem after another,your "experience" is not going to be that enjoyable.
Is it worth it? Depends on the overall satisfaction of ALL those involved.Wife,kids,heck even the dog. I guess you need to evaluate the big picture before you cash in your chips.
RMc

[travelin texans]

We're on our 6th or 7th rv in the last 40 years, the last 10 have been fulltime, 3 of those have been since retirement & YES they are worth it, there's no possible way we could've seen/done all that we've done without a rv.
I don't know your situation or ability to do any of the maintenance, but I've said before if you are physically unable or not mechanically inclined enough to do any/all repairs/replacements then owning a rv is probably not a good choice. If you have take it to a dealer for every little issue then NO it's absolutely not worth it.

[bob91yj]

My wife and I have tried almost every combination of camping, from tents to Class A. My personal preference has been the pop up camper we had. Furnace, hand operated water pump and a two burner stove and a porta potti. Everything was simple, rarely spent any time "fiddling" with things to get them to work when we got to our camp spot.

The more you desire/expect out of your "camping" experience the more headaches you'll have in the details!

[C.LeeNick]

I fully understand your frustration. We've had a 1977 Mobile Traveler motorhome for about 15 years, and we've used it a lot, and always enjoyed it. It's had it's foibles, but we could chalk them up to "Dang, the thing is OLD!". I've had to make tons of repairs, from minor to major, but it's understandable, because it's OLD. Considering price paid, and cost of ownership since, it's been a great value.

In that old motorhome, we've never had the fridge fail, the water heater fail, or any other appliance fail. Good old "Made in the USA" stuff. And NO electronics. The only issue we ever had with appliances was the blower motor in the furnace, that would squeal and run the battery down quick due to it drawing far too much power. But it was like that when we bought it. Recently I found a new old stock electric motor for it, and now it works great too. Another major job was sealing the cabover. Another was rebuilding the valve in the old Thetford toilet. But our family had FUN in that old motorhome. When the kids were small, there were 7 of us, and two dogs, and we had fun. And fixing it myself didn't cost much. Nor did the motorhome have to go anywhere. We would still use it, working around problems, until repairs could be made.

Fast forward to today: We bought a brand new 2019 Keystone Passport in July, and it's been somewhat of a nightmare. The water heater has already failed. Needed the board replaced. The awning has pulled away from the wall. That's been fixed. Shelves in the back closet in the bathroom collapsed. Fixed. The manufacturer "forgot" to install the underbelly and heat ducts necessary..but they owned up and had it done. The dealership drove screws into the electrical wiring installing the underbelly, but that's on them. It was at the dealership a month to have that underbelly done...a full third of the time we've owned it. Then it went back to have the electrical repaired. But was only gone for a few days. We've had it back now a couple weeks and have used it once since.

The General Manager of the dealership where I bought the thing has repeatedly stated that today's RV's are better built than they used to be. Well, I'm not convinced. I've been up to my elbows in my old motorhome, and it's built pretty good. Do new ones have more "bells and whistles"? Absolutely. Pushing buttons to do things that I've had to do with matches or lighters is convenient. An electric awning is convenient. But I put the manual awning on our old motorhome myself, and it's NEVER pulled away from the wall, because I made sure it wouldn't. I've also never had a microwave oven in an RV before. Nor a tv mounted to the wall. Nor a built in stereo. All the bells and whistles are great, but I'm questioning their necessity.

So, anyhoo, here we are, several months in, and years of payments ahead of us, and do I think the new camper is worth it? Well. Looking at it from a strictly monetary aspect. Heck no. This thing is going to cost me many, many times more than what I've spent on our old motorhome (which we've decided to keep for now). And it's turning out to be just as trouble prone.

But when my wife and I are "out there" in the evening..under the stars..having cocktails and listening to soft music and hearing coyotes howling in the distance, and then can retreat to a comfortable space to sleep, and have a hot shower in the morn, and then go fishing, have lunch, relax, and repeat....Well, it's then that I forget all about the money and the hassle. And yes, that makes it worth it. :)

[Laredo Tugger]

"The more you desire/expect out of your "camping" experience the more headaches you'll have in the details!"
Those are the wisest words I've seen today. Absolutely true,
RMc

[sourdough]

I think a large part of the equation is mindset. If you (anyone) go buy an RV expecting that "that money" you spent, or committed to spend, bought you perfection and everything is going to be perfect; and if it isn't you're going to be upset every single time something malfunctions, you are going to be one unhappy camper. If it has to be repaired by a shop everytime...even more unhappy.

Realizing what you are buying is extremely important; a rolling box designed to give you all the comforts of home yet beaten to death every time you roll out on the road. Knowing and accepting that goes a long way in being able to swallow some of the problems.

Ours has had plenty of problems but all fixable, either by me or the dealership. Initially I was like many folks and got extremely irritated, both at the RV and the dealership until I accepted what I had and learned to deal with it. Now, it gives us little trouble but it still costs a lot of time and money just for upkeep.

Why do we keep it and like it? It gives us SO much more flexibility doing many things. It allows us to go and stay/see places for long periods that we would not otherwise be able to do. The more we go and do and see the more we love camping and the more we love THIS trailer....the one that gave us so many headaches. Heck, we even love to open the door and walk inside, it still smells new. Step inside, take a big whiff of that "new", "fun", "adventure" smell and then step outside and grab that ladder and polishing cloth and get at it; all invigorated by how much the camper means to both of you. :D

[JRTJH]

"They say" (whoever "they are") that the happiest days in any RV owner's life are the day they get their new RV and the day they sell it to anyone who'll take the damn thing off their hands......

There is some truth to that statement, but not for everyone, between the first and last days of ownership.

We've been RVing since about 1970 and have had all kinds of RV's from popup trailers to Class A and C motorhomes. Seems we've almost always had one or two parked around the house during our entire married life (49 and counting)...

Do we "love RV'ing? We're currently in southeastern Tennessee, about 25 miles north of Florence, AL, enjoying the fifth wheel and the Slingshot. We're parked at a small, private campground and the only thing outside our RV is an old rustic barn, about 40 acres of pasture, 4 horses and a donkey. We "left the cold behind us" last week and while there's snow at home, we're riding the slingshot in short sleeve shirts and relaxing in the folding rockers under the awning while watching the horses graze in the field next to our camper.

We could never do that if we were traveling in the truck and staying at Motel 6.... We also wouldn't be having grilled pork chops, mashed potatoes and salad for supper after which we'll get a hot shower and sleep in our own bed....

So, for us, even though the "happiest days might be the first and last days of ownership of this "damn thing".... For us, all these "between days" are pretty good too......

[flybouy]

"Is it worth it?"
If you need someone to convince you then I guess it isn't. For you. There are lot's of ways to spend money. Some people enjoy going on cruises. Some people enjoy boating. If you are questioning your enjoyment for dollar spent or aggravation then I think you have your answer.

[notanlines]

"If you new what fun cost you wouldn't go there" Yep, I said that. You may quote me. Truer words were never spoken. Add up what that flea-bagged old part lab/part neighbor of a dog you've had for eleven years has cost in vet bills, food, and chewed furniture. Care to admit what you actually spent on that ski boat you had to have when the kids were still at home? Did you ever tell your wife how much you laid out to get Dad's old car back running after he died? What was the REAL cost of Disney World with the grandkids two years ago?
I know it hurts when a toy breaks and you have to pay to fix what shouldn't have broken. But picture life without your RV, having to stay home and mow the lawn instead.
Want me to send you pictures of Patches our dachshund in the sidecar crossing into Newfoundland last fall? Vet bills just don't matter. And Momma probably already knows what you spent on Dad's old car.....

[Ken / Claudia]

Some good questions were asked, here's my answers.
I keep buying RVs because I enjoy RVing (mainly camping not traveling). I am on my 9th rv and owned 5 tents.
A good dealer is hard to find, but really important and worth shopping for one.
Is camping worth it? So far for me it is, when it's not I will quit.
I keep buying RVs because it is way better than camping in a tent.
I too believe a RV is for the most part a big cheap built box with wheels and add; that needs more attention than most will give them. Even with that said every brand can be a problem. Certainly never ending maintenance will help, but not always. I also missed a roof crack and later it cost 1200 to fix on another RV.

[Laredo Tugger]

Two missed roof crack stories in one thread.
I'm checking mine tomorrow.
RMc

[77cruiser]

The wife likes it more than me, I could always find something better to do at home.
I won't tell her that though.:angel:

[sourdough]

Two missed roof crack stories in one thread.
I'm checking mine tomorrow.
RMc

Good idea! They come from nowhere and look irrelevant; they're not. I have my roof done at least once a year at the dealership and every time, every time, I have knocks, dings etc. in the dicor sealant strip on the front and back. I cover them all. This year I am going to make them do an inspection, with me, prior to cleaning/sealing, and one after to try to correct the issue.

[B-O-B'03]

After dropping out of high school, I bought a brand new 1972 Dodge van and tricked it out, quadraphonic stereo, shag carpet, paneling, bed in the back, etc and used it for camping.

I met the future DW the summer between her junior and senior year in high school, she liked camping too and we van camped a lot.

We got married, had a son, his first camping trip was in the van @ 6 months, had a daughter and eventually graduated to a 2 room tent.

We camped all over in that until the move up to a popup... man, no more sleeping bags at ground level, we were in heaven :D

After 10 years or so, the popup was showing its age, the kids were less inclined to go with us so we sold it and did not do any camping for quite a while.

Now the kids are in there 30s, I am with the prefect woman, who has put up with me for 42+ years, we have a perfect little trailer for the 2 of us, we are enjoying camping again and looking forward to retirement, where I plan on dragging the wheels off of it and will replace it with another as soon as we do.

The "kids" have become campers and enjoy going with their friends... the cycle continues.

It has definitely been worth every minute of it and I hope there are lot more minutes to come.

-Brian

[ken56]

Hunting, fishing/boating, flying, kayaking hiking, whatever your pleasure, is it worth it? Well, camping is my pleasure and the wife and I love seeing the country and not just the tourist traps. My truck gets 9 mpg when I tow so gas is the biggest expense and I say it's still worth it. We enjoy it so I'm spending my money on what I like to do.

Quality issues are a different category because you can get a lemon car or boat or snow mobile or jet ski, anything mechanical is going to break sooner or later. Anew RV should not have those major issues but the industry is not quality driven like the automobile industry, maybe JD Power should track the RV industry. Put some pressure on them to up their game.

RV owners need to be able to fix things for themselves mostly even though warranty issues are/may be different. The issue I had with my new Laredo we bought in June of '17 was bad LED lights both inside and outside. Warranty forced me to have the dealer take care of them because I was not about to take on that expense to fix it myself, not while I had a good warranty to claim on. Now that it's out of warranty I do everything I can that it needs myself. Even that I do enjoy doing the fixes.

[Ken / Claudia]

The news reported yesterday over 9 million RVs where on the US roads last year. I am not sure, but I bet that was the number of registered RVs in the US last year. Anyway some appear to think owning a RV is worth it.

[mskeyspirate]

First let me say that it seems by some of the tones in a few answers that I may have ruffled a few feathers by my question. That was not my intention. I do love my particular camper, but have many times when it had to be returned to the dealership been a little more than discouraged by it's quality. My philosophy in life has always been to expect the worst, but be ready to accept the best. I bought a classic car last year, and realize every time that I sit in it, that it is, and will remain above all quality. So I apologize to those of you I may have offended. I simply wanted to know...what keeps you camping, no more, no less.

[C.LeeNick]

First let me say that it seems by some of the tones in a few answers that I may have ruffled a few feathers by my question. That was not my intention. I do love my particular camper, but have many times when it had to be returned to the dealership been a little more than discouraged by it's quality. My philosophy in life has always been to expect the worst, but be ready to accept the best. I bought a classic car last year, and realize every time that I sit in it, that it is, and will remain above all quality. So I apologize to those of you I may have offended. I simply wanted to know...what keeps you camping, no more, no less.

No offense here. As I stated earlier, I do understand the frustration.

Having owned many used RV's over the years, and having purchased my first brand new one only three months ago, I am having to adjust my thinking. It's turning out, for me anyway, that the new one is more hassle than the used, despite the fact that for the warranty period, the repairs are theoretically "free"...In fact those repairs are paid for up front by the "new" price, and the "hassle" comes in with having to take it to a dealership where they cannot commit to getting the work done in any time frame whatsoever, nor can they, apparently, commit to doing the work correctly, or without damaging something else. Thus, my time hauling it back and forth to the dealer, and the time I'm without the RV, are turning out to be a bigger hassle than just fixing it myself, right here at home.

I doubt we'll ever be without an RV. My wife and I like getting "out there" too much. But it's likely that this year we've purchased both our first, and last, new one.

[JRTJH]

First let me say that it seems by some of the tones in a few answers that I may have ruffled a few feathers by my question. That was not my intention. I do love my particular camper, but have many times when it had to be returned to the dealership been a little more than discouraged by it's quality. My philosophy in life has always been to expect the worst, but be ready to accept the best. I bought a classic car last year, and realize every time that I sit in it, that it is, and will remain above all quality. So I apologize to those of you I may have offended. I simply wanted to know...what keeps you camping, no more, no less.

"Ruffled feathers or offended people" ??? Probably not, but "crusty answers" You'll likely get many....

First, if you really REALLY want a "problem free trailer" you might look to Bowlus. They sell a 23' aluminum trailer with all the options. https://www.bowlusroadchief.com/endlesshighways.html Cost is just over $219,000 which includes delivery. There is a "low cost model" that retails for about $140,000. There is NO dealer network, if anything happens, you get to take it back to the factory in Henderson, NV (by appointment only). They do suggest that if you have structural problems, any local airplane repair facility "should" be able to repair or replace the skin and maintain the outer aluminum finish....

I'm not sure what your expectations are, but the Passport 2400BH lists for between $18,500 and $24,000 MSRP. Many are listed for sale around the 16,000 price range. Being "disappointed in the quality" of a $16,000 trailer could be anything from not liking the fit of the trim to not liking the way the battery system operates. Both are (as is most problems between those two extremes) a matter of perspective. But to compare the expectation of "quality" to a $220,000 "work of art", well, you aren't going to get that kind of quality in a Keystone.

Remember, if you look for the problems, you'll worry yourself into ulcers... If you're busy enjoying your Passport, the problems tend to become "inconsequential" when compared to the fun your family is having.

In short, if you want "trouble free" you didn't pay enough for your trailer to be in that "price range"..... And yes, even with a "quarter million dollar trailer" you have to make an appointment to get it looked at...... (that tells me that even the Bowlus isn't "free of problems" if they have a provision to repair them), but you still need an appointment.......

[bob91yj]

Never heard of the Bowlus brand before...wow...I thought it was WAY overpriced until I saw that it comes with two bath towels...that changes everything!:rolleyes:

[flybouy]

Never heard of the Bowlus brand before...wow...I thought it was WAY overpriced until I saw that it comes with two bath towels...that changes everything!:rolleyes:

Ya think a person might negotiate a set of steak knives into that MSRP?

[AbHDToyHauler]

The wife and I talked long and hard and thought about buying a toy hauler for several years before we did. We looked at Class A diesel pushers, Class C and even bumper pulls but decided on a fifth wheel. Because of this site and friends advice etc we decided to buy used thinking that the previous person would have fixed most of the issues if we were careful to find a used one that the owner cared about. The one we bought had an extended warranty and we still had some small issues that I fixed myself and in the process learned alot about the RV. We saved enough buying used to do "alot" of repairs if we need to, so we are quite a happy with our "used" RV. But to each their own.

[Number 4]

I started camping in a canvas tent with exterior aluminum poles. The air mattress would invariably leak, the flies and no-see-ums were around whenever there was food and hot food would get cold quick at the picnic table. My first time out in that little Shasta trailer my dinner was hot, there were no bugs, we had light without the hiss and blinding brightness of a Coleman lantern and a mattress that wouldn't go flat. That alone sold me on trailer camping and now many years later we have an awning, microwave, stereo, heater, AC, shower... wow!. We love our little Hideaway and I don't mind fixit jobs and maintenance for the rewards of getting away from city life for 4-5 days. Worth it? You bet! When retirement arrives in 2-3 years we'll enjoy it more often.

[PKONolan]

If you want to feel better about the breakdowns and maintenance headaches of your RV, buy a boat.

In all seriousness, we have had pretty good luck with our Boats and our 2014 Keystone Passport 2400BH but neither of these toys come without some significant time investment. However, we have not experienced any major system failures on either so I guess my biggest complaint would be the weathering on the front and rear panels. When you live over 6,000 feet above sea level, that is generally the case with anything stored or used outside. I chock it up to challenges of making a house light enough to pull behind your car.

And the family memories that have been created using both make every moment of rubbing and wrench turning well worth it. And it sure beats sleeping on the ground (though I do that too when I backpack. My wife chooses not to participate in that foolishness since she has a perfectly good glamper to sleep in).

[babaloo]

I purchased a 2018 Keystone Cougar 5th wheel 6 monrhs ago. We are happy, so far, BUT...
It is the "1/2 ton towable". It seems as though everything on it is slightly lighter, slightly thinner, slightly less quality, than the more expensive, non-half ton models. I was told that for every so many models churned out, that 1 in 36, ( or whatever the specific numer is,) they run a model through a very tough obstacle driving course with bumps, dips, etc., to check out quality and standards on how it holds up. Don't know if thats true, but we have had many small problems on our brand new model. ( Did I get that tester model ?!} Front end cap lights coming off, plastic molding inside not secured, many nails in main bedroom protruding from carpet, screws missing, door latch not secured, metal floor vents already moshed inwards, drawer face fronts out of alignment, etc...all little things, but collectively, a real pain, especially on a brand new product.
There is nothing like boondocking out in the beautiful desert, and seeing this countries sights, BUT I agree....quality in mass produced products, is rare !

2015 3500 Ram Dually... 2018 Keystone Cougar 279RKSWE

[pitman44]

My recommendation is to buy "lightly used" RVs. Many of the new problems have already been fixed. Plus you don't take that huge off the lot depreciation.

[travelin texans]

My recommendation is to buy "lightly used" RVs. Many of the new problems have already been fixed. Plus you don't take that huge off the lot depreciation.

Just so happens I've got one of those well maintained, well cared for used ones for sale.

[itat]

My recommendation is to buy "lightly used" RVs. Many of the new problems have already been fixed. Plus you don't take that huge off the lot depreciation.

I agree with this so long as you are very knowledgeable about RVs. Your experience will help you avoid buying someone else’s problems. When buying used you need to be picky and patient.

[pitman44]

I agree with this so long as you are very knowledgeable about RVs. Your experience will help you avoid buying someone else’s problems. When buying used you need to be picky and patient.


It seems the problem buying new ones is there are often undetectable issues that only show up "down the road". Then you often have to deal with under staffed and/or poorly trained service personnel at the dealers plus you're paying the big bucks right out of the gate.

[Claudius]

I agree with this so long as you are very knowledgeable about RVs. Your experience will help you avoid buying someone else’s problems. When buying used you need to be picky and patient.

We tented when i was a kid. When i got married we tented. We have 2 great grandchildren now. We now have a 2013 35 foot keystone TT. It will be our last. Looking back we tented, I built a Camper Van, had a Husky Camper.
Some travel trailers. If i were not handy I think i might have given up on this years ago. Every single unit i owned had issues, even the camper van i built. It ended up too heavy and the brakes warped all the time. There was always something. Being young back then i couldn't afford the cost of some one repairing stuff. I put a one piece roof on my Camper cause it was leaking.
New Fridge. Buying new isn't much better. My 2013 for example, The atwood fridge is crap we hated it, so i put in a new Dometic RM2852. My stove had a small oven RV-1735 which won't even cook a chicken so i put in a atwood RA-2135. My water pump didn't give me enough water and pressure to the shower which is in the front and my pump is in the back. Couldn't shave in the dinky sink so a bigger one went in. Pantry 25" deep...lol, wife is under 5' tall she couldn't get the stuff in the back, that got fixed. It goes on, but that's enough. This is a new trailer not used. Buy used? Been there done that too. Are you fussy like me? Better have money and or be handy. They all have issues. It's almost a crap shoot. If you tow you will have a lot more issues than these park it in a resort Campers....lol. Seen the new windrivers? The ceilings are coming down from the factory right where they join them. $70.000 for those things.

[bbells]

IMHO, a current year dealer rental is the best way to buy a trailer. I go on a month long trip 2-3 times a year, and hate motels. I have owned numerous tents, then tent trailers, bought a new North Trail in 2014, then my current Springdale in February of this year. The North Trail had extreme quality issues like yours, so I sold it for a low price. That trailer told me what not to get in my next one. The dealer rental had a great price, and all the kinks were already found and repaired. I have had nothing but good luck with it. I would suggest, sell your current trailer, use what you learned from it, and get a camper that more closely meets your needs. Or, get a cheaper used one and like one person said, understand it is older and live with the flaws.

[rjullrich]

Well, I guess we are not the only ones who still love our camper and all of the GOOD experiences that have gone with it. Frustrating as hell at times, but still worth it. And, a big part of the satisfaction is being around some of the nicest and most considerate people you will ever find. That includes not only those at the rv parks, but so many great people right here on this forum. No question is considered "stupid", and no judgment is made. Everyone is treated with respect - you know, just like a lot of us older folks were raised and how we have lived our entire lives. I believe that camping folks are the BEST!!! Just my 2c worth. :-)

[sourdough]

We tented when i was a kid. When i got married we tented. We have 2 great grandchildren now. We now have a 2013 35 foot keystone TT. It will be our last. Looking back we tented, I built a Camper Van, had a Husky Camper.
Some travel trailers. If i were not handy I think i might have given up on this years ago. Every single unit i owned had issues, even the camper van i built. It ended up too heavy and the brakes warped all the time. There was always something. Being young back then i couldn't afford the cost of some one repairing stuff. I put a one piece roof on my Camper cause it was leaking.
New Fridge. Buying new isn't much better. My 2013 for example, The atwood fridge is crap we hated it, so i put in a new Dometic RM2852. My stove had a small oven RV-1735 which won't even cook a chicken so i put in a atwood RA-2135. My water pump didn't give me enough water and pressure to the shower which is in the front and my pump is in the back. Couldn't shave in the dinky sink so a bigger one went in. Pantry 25" deep...lol, wife is under 5' tall she couldn't get the stuff in the back, that got fixed. It goes on, but that's enough. This is a new trailer not used. Buy used? Been there done that too. Are you fussy like me? Better have money and or be handy. They all have issues. It's almost a crap shoot. If you tow you will have a lot more issues than these park it in a resort Campers....lol. Seen the new windrivers? The ceilings are coming down from the factory right where they join them. $70.000 for those things.

So your trailer is "your last one" due to some of the problems listed? Are you going to just give up the options that the RV gives you? Are you at the age that you just don't want to mess with it any longer and just sit at home? I'm interested because I wonder about "what's next" for us...sort of. I have 2 homes, tons of timeshare (at least 6 mos. in a minimum of a 2 bdrm. luxury condo in VERY nice places), the RV and the means to just "go places". Of all those things, we have become very attached to the RV and what it offers us vs all the other things, so again, I'm just wondering what you perceive your options are to keep going and seeing.

[Claudius]

So your trailer is "your last one" due to some of the problems listed?
NO....OLD AGE silly. I don't intend on pulling 60' (truck and trailer = 60') down the road at age 75. I don't sit in a resort (not my idea of Camping)
This trailer will last me 10 more years I might not.
mskeyspirate should know that a person that travels down the road with their rig will always have more issues than one who parks it in a resort so to speak.
They don't use the 110 volt side of the unit, where as one who pulls might use the 12v and propane side.
So sort through the answers people give you in here.