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E Rod
05-28-2018, 07:41 PM
Anyone having issues with their slide outs? I have a 2017 Alpine 3660FL with the In Command. The problem I'm having issue with is I have to press button approximately 4-5 times to extend hydraulic slideouts. They retract fine. I replaced the solenoid and installed a new battery no luck..
It happened before but it was repaired under warranty. Stated it was the BCM board. I doubt it's that this time because everything else works fine...

ChuckS
05-29-2018, 04:59 AM
So how do the slides work when you use the good old fashioned mechanical switch? If the slides extend fine when using the manual switch then you’ve narrowed it down to the “In Command system”

E Rod
05-29-2018, 08:18 AM
My unit doesn't have any mechanical switches for the kitchen hydraulic slide outs. The In Command is a touch screen pad mounted on wall. It controls lighting, water heater, pump, both electric and hydraulic slide outs. Only issue I'm having is when extending the hydraulic slide outs. I have to touch screen pad a few times till the kitchen slides are fully extended. Retracting is no problem .

lt_cowboy
05-29-2018, 08:25 AM
Have you linked your inCommand to a Bluetooth phone? I almost exclusively use my phone to extend slides. I do completely dislike the lack of regular switches... I like redundancy

JRTJH
05-29-2018, 08:26 AM
Several years ago Cougar came out with a "flat screen control system" that had significant problems with switch function failures. They were installed in almost all Cougar trailers "back when" (about 2012-2013 if I recall correctly) and about half the owners had problems with the screens doing what yours is doing. There are several threads in the forum archives that you can search to compare.

It may be that your "in command flat screen" is a similar concept, although much improved, and only a few (rather than most) owners are having problems. I'd suggest making sure the dealer is aware and fixes it under warranty. The Cougar system was in the "thousands to repair" once it was out of warranty.... Don't get caught in that pitfall if you can avoid it.

Your problem may not be related, but better safe than sorry.

E Rod
05-29-2018, 08:32 AM
Yes, it's linked to phone. Issue remains. They fixed the issue once under warranty. Though it started doing it again just not as bad. Before I would have to press the touch screen 43 times each way.

E Rod
05-29-2018, 08:41 AM
If anyone has had this issue and were able to bypass the touch pad by installing mechanical switches ,please let me know how you wired it up as I'm thinking of doing just that hopefully it will solve my issue.

TJG0524
05-29-2018, 09:11 AM
We have the same InCommand system in our 2016 Alpine, and it can be annoying to use. The computer motherboard was replaced once under warranty.
We occasionally have the same issue with the hydraulic slides when retracting them from the InCommand display or a phone with the Bluetooth app.
The fix we found is to power off the InCommand display, power it back up and it works.
Yeah, that's not a permanent fix but it's quick. Hope it helps you.

Mikendebbie
05-29-2018, 10:16 AM
I have to be very careful about fingertip placement over the "in" or "out" button on the screen, and then I have to press pretty firm/hard with consistent pressure for things to work. I never touch the button just right on first attempt, even though I try. DW has same issues...I tell her to press hard and stay on it until you hear the sound of the motor change and everything snugs up flush. It definitely does not like a light touch, which I suppose is appropriate for slide out operations. Using my synced iphone is a little bit better. The other buttons on the screen work fine - but they are simple "on/off" commands.

Ddubya
05-29-2018, 11:55 AM
Contact In Command. They are very helpful

E Rod
05-30-2018, 03:34 PM
Thank you all for your suggestions. Tried them all to no avail. Called ASA ELECTRONICS one more time as the previous calls were not helpful. Finally a rep by the name of Tori Lloyd heard me out and read all my notes. Turns out I have the first version of the In Command system. She said there were problems when pressing the button for the hydraulic slide outs it would loose connection. She said they will be replacing my system with the next version at no cost to me . Thank God finally a company that backs their product.

E Rod
06-04-2018, 06:35 PM
Repaired slide out issue. Took doing some homework but thank God I figured it out. Happy camper now. I bypassed the In Command and installed a switch . Went online to download the wiring schematic. Had to make sure it didn't affect the level up system as they share the solenoid.

GBR
06-05-2018, 10:18 AM
Congratulations. Can you share the process of parts and method of installing the switch as my wife and I get frustrated with the slide opening process due to dropping connection.

E Rod
06-05-2018, 10:44 AM
I went on line to Lippert web page. Downloaded the Service Manual. Printed pages 24-27. Taped 24 and 25 together to see complete diagram. Purchased a 6 pin rv slide out switch, male and female blade connectors for 12g.wire and depending from where your solenoid and hydraulic motor are you'll need some 16g. Wire. I purchased 12/4 wire cord at Lowe's. The 4 wire cord is sufficient as you will jumper the two center for hot and the top and bottom on right. Disconnected battery and shore power. Wired per diagram. Connected battery. Had to disconnect wire 42 that runs from the BCM to the solenoid. That identified which solenoid was for the slide out. Ran a new thicker gauge wire for ground as well. Tested and worked.
Hope this helps those having the same issue. I'm still having trouble getting Camping world to return calls or respond to emails sent by ASA ELECTRONICS to get the new hardwired version of the In Command installed. I couldn't wait for them any longer as I leave in 3 days for vacation

E Rod
06-05-2018, 10:50 AM
One thing I forgot to mention. Go to your settings and turn off the setting for that slide out. If u press it by mistake it will activate pump.

GBR
06-05-2018, 11:07 AM
Thanks E-Rod. This excellent post will help many of us in the months and years to come.

Blizardj
06-10-2018, 08:25 AM
Deleted.... no help...sorry..

azchoco
06-10-2018, 11:25 AM
My unit doesn't have any mechanical switches for the kitchen hydraulic slide outs. The In Command is a touch screen pad mounted on wall. It controls lighting, water heater, pump, both electric and hydraulic slide outs. Only issue I'm having is when extending the hydraulic slide outs. I have to touch screen pad a few times till the kitchen slides are fully extended. Retracting is no problem .

I have a 2016 Keystone Alpine 3536RE. I have the InCommand too. I press the "Out" button on the touch screen until all three hydraulic slides are fully extended. I do the same for the retract of them. If I read you right you touch your out button once and they fully extend?
I had trouble when I first tried to retract my hyd slides and after having a remote tech look at it he discovered it was 2 quarts low on oil! Seems they didn't PDI it from the factory. Camping World in Mesa Az are terrible. Finally had to change out the manifold that is used to independently slide each hyd slide.

ingalmi
06-10-2018, 11:46 AM
Getting your finger on the right spot is challenging but doable. My In command was upgraded to a non-Bluetooth between the BCM and control panel, it’s hard wired but still have Bluetooth for IPhone. The BCM on all IN·Command system’s have manual selector switches to operate the hydraulic slides and awnings. I did install a slide switch next to the iN·Command control panel in the event the InCommand fails however you still would need to manually open the solenoid valve manually. No big deal just remember to close it when done.

shirleys545
06-11-2018, 02:56 AM
I own a 2014 Keystone Cougar 280RLS, it came with the touch screen control panel, while it was in for service the dealer called and asked if I had any problems with one of my slideouts and I said no. Long story short they traced it down to the control panel being bad and said Keystone no longer had these in service so they replaced it with a mechanical switch control panel. I found it funny that they didn't carry parts to fix this problem but I guess I am better off, didn't know there were so many problems with the touch screen.

Johnnypt63
06-12-2018, 05:08 PM
I have a 2016 Alpine 3011RE and we have noticed in the last few times out the issue with retracting the slides stop and start they move about 6 to 10 inches then stop. I don’t take my finger off the screen the slide just stops. Manual says the over load to Hyde motor causing ... Anyone heard this or have this issue ??

ChuckS
06-12-2018, 05:31 PM
I would clean the gear packs for each slide, lubricate with dry graphite grease and use synthetic oil in between the gear pack bushings.

Doing this will make your slides smoother, quieter and quicker

https://www.lci1.com/images/support/lipsheet/0003.pdf


Also you may need to do this upgrade to your resettable circuit breakers for the DC line to the hydraulic pump

https://www.lci1.com/assets/content/support/technical-information-sheets/Slideouts/TI___040_Wiring_Circuit_Breakers_For_Hydraulic_Pum ps.pdf

E Rod
06-20-2018, 05:44 PM
Thank you all for your suggestions. Tried them all to no avail. Called ASA ELECTRONICS one more time as the previous calls were not helpful. Finally a rep by the name of Tori Lloyd heard me out and read all my notes. Turns out I have the first version of the In Command system. She said there were problems when pressing the button for the hydraulic slide outs it would loose connection. She said they will be replacing my system with the next version at no cost to me . Thank God finally a company that backs their product.

Unfortunately I have been unable to get any help from ASA ELECTRONICS after several attempts to get the rv dealership and them to communicate has failed. The dealership has called several times and left message with Tori and Jennifer but have gone unreturned. It look promising at first I would finally have my In Command issue taken care only to be disappointed. I will keep attempting to hopefully get it resolved.

ctbruce
06-21-2018, 03:37 AM
May be time to call ASA directly yourself. You can't get worse help than you already are.

E Rod
06-21-2018, 08:12 AM
I've called dealer several times and ASA. dealer says they've called and left messages. I called ASA and it seems they don't return calls
I asked if they would call dealer while I'm on line. They say no , dealer needs to call them. Doesn't end...

jeffm
07-01-2018, 02:00 PM
I have a 2014 Alpine 3720FB and having issues since day 1 with the slide out that has the kitchen table on it. Replaced under warranty and after that replaced after wards 6x. Not sure if anyone else having problems with gears breaking with a slide on the Alpine. The dealer is not much help. If you have had these issues what have you done to help repair it? It's to the point where we are looking for another 5th Wheel that is not the same brand.

E Rod
07-11-2018, 07:54 PM
Update, finally received and installed the new second version of the In Command. Had a near by dealership receive it for me as ASA ELECTRONICS would not send it to me directly. Installed ,tested and operated it myself. About 11/2 hour to replace and run some wire. Now the hydraulic slide outs operate from the touch pad as it was intended to do so.. I left the mechanical switch in place and connected as a bypass for pit stops or as a backup. Helps to get familiarized with your unit and it's components.

sdetweil
07-12-2018, 07:29 AM
I have a 2014 Alpine 3720FB and having issues since day 1 with the slide out that has the kitchen table on it. Replaced under warranty and after that replaced after wards 6x. Not sure if anyone else having problems with gears breaking with a slide on the Alpine. The dealer is not much help. If you have had these issues what have you done to help repair it? It's to the point where we are looking for another 5th Wheel that is not the same brand.

I have a 2013 Alpine 3720FB, and have had no problems with the slides.
I have mechanical switches on my unit.